Protien

February 23, 2004

Rich,

1 kilo = 2.2 lbs

The reverse on mixing. The less mixing the better. Melons should certainly

be eaten on their own as they are slow digesting. Consider walking down to

one fruit tree and then gorging yourself until full. Then taking a break

before thinking about some other fruit source. That is a natural way to

eat. Fruit is generally quite fast digesting so the gap in ideal

circumstances does not have to be very long.

If you live in a cold climate it is better to stay away from eating a lot of

citrus fruits. They make you feel cold.

The most perfect water you can get is in fruit. I sometimes look on

breakfast as being at least a couple of pints of fruit.

Peter

Rich Sachs [seconaphim]

23 February 2004 13:43

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Protien

Hey Peter, how much is a kilo, in U.S. pounds?

I would hope that the types of fruit don't really matter much, the

better the mix probably the better.

Rich

February 23, 2004

Rich,

You probably are overdoing on avocados. There are some clever measurements

about fat intake. If you want to get fit, live long, etc then a low fat and

low protein diet is best.

Well-pipped in this context means with lots of pips.

Generally the seedless varieties have much less nutrition in them but they

are of course better than nothing.

I have eaten citrus peel when taking ripe tangerines off the tree. There is

good oil in the skin but generally I peel them as well and I prefer those

that peel easily.

Peter

Rich Sachs [seconaphim]

23 February 2004 14:37

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Protien

I generally buy what's available and fairly inexpensive too. Produce

stores and Costco are good for that. I'm not currently much of an

apple eater, I like the sweeter fruits.

I heavily rely on at least three, sometimes four avocados a day. I'd

like to not need them so much, but not for now.

I'm not sure which green fruit you're referring to Peter, unless it's

grapes. But obviously, I don't prefer to eat anything that's not

ripe, like green bell peppers.

I can't imagine eating the peel of an orange or things like that.

I'm pretty generous about throwing out peels that I can't easily eat.

What does well-pipped mean in American English?

I never juice either, seems as if the item should just be eaten as it

is. I'd like to be so stable eating and living that I don't need to

drink water, but that hasn't happened yet. I still drink it fairly

regularly.

For Molly, I eat pretty large quantities of vegetables and fruits and

I'm not concerned about the quantities at all. I imagine I'll want

less the more I get used to eating raw mentally and physically.

I don't eat dried fruit of any kind. That would be almost the same

as cooked for me and defeating the purpose of what I'm trying to do

in eating raw. I do eat dates though, although I'll probably

eliminate those too completely someday, too sweet is the reason.

Rich

February 24, 2004

That's what I meant, Peter, is eating a particular fruit with or as a

meal and then eating a different kind of fruit at another meal.

That's what I meant by mixing them up. Not fruit salad. I have

nothing against fruit salad in a pinch, if there's nothing else raw

available at an occasion.

But I still believe in eating more vegetables than fruit about 2/3rds

to 1/3rd. Vegetables just seem healthier than all that sweetness.

Of course, some plants like tomato, avocado, bell pepper (I believe),

etc. are considered fruits scientifically but generically we call

them vegetables. And they're not overly, obviously or blatantly

sweet.

I'm not concerned about eating citrus in a cold environment. I don't

think environment has much to do with it. Just a good mix of plant

food (but not at each meal).

I would like to get all my water from plant food and I believe it is

easily possible, although I'm still drinking water for now.

I generally start out with a vegetable meal in the morning since they

just seem more nutritious than the sweet fruit. First thing in the

morning, I'm not looking for that emotional relief that sweet fruits,

avocados and raw nuts give me as the day wears on. So, since I eat

plenty of those last three items, I try to eat as many vegetables as

I can when I can (when I'm feeling like tolerating vegetables).

Rich

February 24, 2004

I don't believe you can go wrong, eating only raw plant food. Three,

four avocados a day is nothing, just like overdoing raw nuts some.

And, again, I'm not concerned much about the scientific end, protein,

fats, calories, the chemical make-up of foods, etc. I feel certain

that if I just eat a raw plant food diet, I'll be as well as I can be

physically/spiritually/mentally. And I'll live as long as I possibly

can too.

Seedless, non-seedless doesn't concern me much either. I think

seedless watermelon is delicious and I eat a fair amount of these

commercialized bananas. But you're probably right as far as the

nutritional value, but I doubt if it makes much difference.

An easily peeled tangerine is, indeed, a delicious treat.

Rich

February 25, 2004

Rich,

Interesting.

I guess you live somewhere warm. Dogmas about eating are mostly bad. The

balance between fruit and vegetable should be a function of what you need.

I guess that if the exercise component of your day went up the desire to eat

fruit would go up.

Although our proportions are opposite they may both be right for us!

Peter

Rich Sachs [seconaphim]

24 February 2004 23:35

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Protien

That's what I meant, Peter, is eating a particular fruit with or as a

meal and then eating a different kind of fruit at another meal.

That's what I meant by mixing them up. Not fruit salad. I have

nothing against fruit salad in a pinch, if there's nothing else raw

available at an occasion.

But I still believe in eating more vegetables than fruit about 2/3rds

to 1/3rd. Vegetables just seem healthier than all that sweetness.

Of course, some plants like tomato, avocado, bell pepper (I believe),

etc. are considered fruits scientifically but generically we call

them vegetables. And they're not overly, obviously or blatantly

sweet.

I'm not concerned about eating citrus in a cold environment. I don't

think environment has much to do with it. Just a good mix of plant

food (but not at each meal).

I would like to get all my water from plant food and I believe it is

easily possible, although I'm still drinking water for now.

I generally start out with a vegetable meal in the morning since they

just seem more nutritious than the sweet fruit. First thing in the

morning, I'm not looking for that emotional relief that sweet fruits,

avocados and raw nuts give me as the day wears on. So, since I eat

plenty of those last three items, I try to eat as many vegetables as

I can when I can (when I'm feeling like tolerating vegetables).

Rich

February 26, 2004

You might also look at Stephen Arlin and Raw Power.

http://www.rawfood.com/arlin.html

His balance of fruit/fat etc might not be perfect for everyone but as a

bodybuilder he demonstrates that raw does NOT mean inadequate protein!

Sara xx

February 26, 2004

No, Pennsylvania, and we've had nothing but frigid days for probably

a couple months now. But I live indoors (I'm not homeless), and I

only have to endure the cold for brief stretches.

The only exercise I'll ever believe in is the natural movement of my

body throughout a day's normal activities.

Rich

rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...>

wrote:

> Rich,

>

> Interesting.

>

> I guess you live somewhere warm. Dogmas about eating are mostly

bad. The

> balance between fruit and vegetable should be a function of what

you need.

> I guess that if the exercise component of your day went up the

desire to eat

> fruit would go up.

>

> Although our proportions are opposite they may both be right for us!

>

> Peter

February 11, 2010

Hi Everyone! I am new here and new to online communities. My quest is about

vegan sources of protien for breaky and other times too. I was happy to discover

Hemp seeds have 11 grams per 2T! So I put that in the smoothie and in salads,

etc. But what about the green powders like Super Blue-Green Algae and Barley

Green, etc. Then there are the various nuts. The vegan pundits tout these as

good sources. Just trying to put together a solid list of protiens. Any

information appreciated.

February 11, 2010

Hi Cynthia and welcome to the group.

I don't know those particular brands of PP as I'm in the UK, but my vegan nephew

uses a green pea protein, and I like soya protein mainly.

All nuts and seeds are great.

Are you planning on shake for breakfast?

Remember there are lots of non traditional brekkie options that there's nothing

to stop us eating - like tofu or tempeh. Lentils and beans even.

Mel

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Thursday, 11 February, 2010, 19:07

Hi Everyone! I am new here and new to online communities. My quest is about

vegan sources of protien for breaky and other times too. I was happy to discover

Hemp seeds have 11 grams per 2T! So I put that in the smoothie and in salads,

etc. But what about the green powders like Super Blue-Green Algae and Barley

Green, etc. Then there are the various nuts. The vegan pundits tout these as

good sources. Just trying to put together a solid list of protiens. Any

information appreciated.

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February 11, 2010

Thanks for the reply, Mel. What is a PP?

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:15 PM, mel <shaggypoo.chaoswrote:

>

> Hi Cynthia and welcome to the group.

>

> I don't know those particular brands of PP as I'm in the UK, but my vegan

> nephew uses a green pea protein, and I like soya protein mainly.

>

> All nuts and seeds are great.

>

> Are you planning on shake for breakfast?

>

> Remember there are lots of non traditional brekkie options that there's

> nothing to stop us eating - like tofu or tempeh. Lentils and beans even.

>

> Mel

>

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> swan222222 <cynthia1776 <cynthia1776%40gmail.com>>

> Protien

> <%40>

> Thursday, 11 February, 2010, 19:07

>

> Hi Everyone! I am new here and new to online communities. My quest is about

> vegan sources of protien for breaky and other times too. I was happy to

> discover Hemp seeds have 11 grams per 2T! So I put that in the smoothie and

> in salads, etc. But what about the green powders like Super Blue-Green Algae

> and Barley Green, etc. Then there are the various nuts. The vegan pundits

> tout these as good sources. Just trying to put together a solid list of

> protiens. Any information appreciated.

>

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February 11, 2010

Hi there,

Naturade makes a few kinds of vegan protein powder (they make the pea

one Mel mentioned). A yummy one is Nutribiotic Rice protein powder vanilla.

I mix it with Restore to get a great texture, but Restore is whey protein.

I mix and match protein and browns at almost every meal. For dinner tonight

I had a can of Trader Joe vegetarian chili mixed with green beans, broccoli,

brown rice, and a hard boiled egg on top. If I'd wanted it vegan I could have

used nutritional yeast or wheat germ on top or added seitan or nuts.

There are some good frozen burgers that are vegan-Sunshine burgers makes

falafel, sprouted grains, and breakfast ones.

JoEllen

, " swan222222 " <cynthia1776 wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone! I am new here and new to online communities. My quest is about

vegan sources of protien for breaky and other times too. I was happy to discover

Hemp seeds have 11 grams per 2T! So I put that in the smoothie and in salads,

etc. But what about the green powders like Super Blue-Green Algae and Barley

Green, etc. Then there are the various nuts. The vegan pundits tout these as

good sources. Just trying to put together a solid list of protiens. Any

information appreciated.

>

February 12, 2010

Oh I forgot falafel! Love those.

Mel

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