Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I've recently started reading about sugar sensitivity and have been learning a lot but I am still very wary. I have a history of depression, eating disorders, and general craziness and knew they are linked heavily to my diet. I also practice a vegan diet (except on occasional binges, which only increases my negative feelings afterward) In recent months, I noticed the problems becoming worse again (I hadn't had truly bulimic tendencies in months and I found the feelings creeping back in) I just read on the resources link the connection between INCREASED sugar sensitivity and birth control! I just started in January and feel this would explain a lot. I just finished reading the China Study, which basically reaffirmed my belief that animal protein (and too much " added " protein of any kind) is unnecessary and can be harmful. I avoid too much soy and dont tend to do the " protein powder " thing because my body doesnt handle it too well. Finally, to complicate things, I'm working in Korea right now so I can't read labels and I don't like the food. Everything here seems to be sweetened a lottttt and the apartment I'm in doesn't have an oven or a blender (or grater. grr). SO, the questions: 1. If the link between sugar sensitivity and bc exists, what can I do about it? (any way to reduce my cravings other than discontinuing use?) 2. How do I know how much protein is adequate with breakfast? (starting at step one, but unfortunately I can't buy the actual books til I get back to cali in 4 weeks ) 3. any ideas for protein other than nuts (see question 6), soy, and powders? (aka-- are beans and lentils enough?) 4. do you find that protein is, indeed, as important as the program makes it out to be? Is there any reduced need for protein from plant sources (an argument made time and again by vegans) 5. does anyone else experience problems with hunger? I'm thin, fit, and generally healthy but find myself only ever feeling tired or cravings.. rarely ever do i feel hungry, eat, and then feel satisfied. (a series of events i believe is essential to developing good eating habits) 6. i feel when im not eating sugar, i develop a strong urge for fats (which is just as bad) I can eat a whole bag of nuts at a time and then feel terrible digestion for days. Thanks for any or all help! hope this is even clear I'm so tired!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Oh my gosh, I'm so excited for you. : ) Healing is possible and you can feel really well. I believe it is our birthright to feel really truly well and in balance. No worries about not being able to get the books yet, just connect online, as you are doing. Just start with breakfast. Just as the program describes, very simply. Just see how you feel with doing step one as described. Best wishes and thanks so much for posting here!! : ) Janine On Apr 25, 2010, at 5:39 AM, orangeishottt07 wrote: > I've recently started reading about sugar sensitivity and have been > learning a lot but I am still very wary. I have a history of > depression, eating disorders, and general craziness and knew they > are linked heavily to my diet. I also practice a vegan diet (except > on occasional binges, which only increases my negative feelings > afterward) In recent months, I noticed the problems becoming worse > again (I hadn't had truly bulimic tendencies in months and I found > the feelings creeping back in) > I just read on the resources link the connection between INCREASED > sugar sensitivity and birth control! I just started in January and > feel this would explain a lot. > I just finished reading the China Study, which basically reaffirmed > my belief that animal protein (and too much " added " protein of any > kind) is unnecessary and can be harmful. I avoid too much soy and > dont tend to do the " protein powder " thing because my body doesnt > handle it too well. > Finally, to complicate things, I'm working in Korea right now so I > can't read labels and I don't like the food. Everything here seems > to be sweetened a lottttt and the apartment I'm in doesn't have an > oven or a blender (or grater. grr). > > SO, the questions: > 1. If the link between sugar sensitivity and bc exists, what can I > do about it? (any way to reduce my cravings other than discontinuing > use?) > 2. How do I know how much protein is adequate with breakfast? > (starting at step one, but unfortunately I can't buy the actual > books til I get back to cali in 4 weeks ) > 3. any ideas for protein other than nuts (see question 6), soy, and > powders? (aka-- are beans and lentils enough?) > 4. do you find that protein is, indeed, as important as the program > makes it out to be? Is there any reduced need for protein from plant > sources (an argument made time and again by vegans) > 5. does anyone else experience problems with hunger? I'm thin, fit, > and generally healthy but find myself only ever feeling tired or > cravings.. rarely ever do i feel hungry, eat, and then feel > satisfied. (a series of events i believe is essential to developing > good eating habits) > 6. i feel when im not eating sugar, i develop a strong urge for fats > (which is just as bad) I can eat a whole bag of nuts at a time and > then feel terrible digestion for days. > > Thanks for any or all help! hope this is even clear I'm so tired!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Hi there! I see you are a voracious reader and really committed to your health, which is great. One of the things this program has done for me (and I've been following it for about 5 years now) is to really tune into listening to what my body tells me. So rather then having a " belief " about how much protein I need or what works for me, I have " experience " with how much protein I need and what works for me. As part of that, I can affirm that the program can be done as a vegetarian, and it can also be done as a vegan. My protein sources: lentils, beans, tofu, eggs, cheese. I don't use protein powder very often, but when I do it's a rice protein powder (like you, I'm keeping an eye on how much soy I eat). So that having been said, here are my personal responses to your questions: 1) Follow the program, starting with step one. Don't worry about " discontinuing use; " that's not part of the program until WAAAAAAAYYYYYY down the road at step six. Focus on step one. 2) You can read more about step one here: http://www.radiantrecovery.com/1r.htm If you would be willing to let us know your weight or how much protein you are shooting for, we can help you brainstorm serving sizes. 3) I have gotten enough protein with beans, lentils, and one soy serving a day, so yes, it can be done. 4) My experience is that protein is indeed as important as the program says. Put a different way, I have experienced that getting the right (for me) amount of protein has made a huge and positive difference in how I feel. 5) I'm sure you could get lots of different answers about this. For me, feeling hungry used to be associated with a dip in blood sugar, a feeling I don't enjoy, so I would eat constantly to make sure that didn't happen. Now I follow the program and eat to hold my blood sugar steady. I do sometimes feel hungry, but I don't usually WAIT until I feel hungry to eat. I eat when it's time to eat, whether I feel hungry or not. 6) That's not a question! But my experience is that when I follow the program, I don't get urges and cravings for things. Hope this helps! Cheers, Sharon ________________________________ orangeishottt07 <orangeishottt07 Sun, April 25, 2010 5:39:33 AM 6 questions by a newbie I've recently started reading about sugar sensitivity and have been learning a lot but I am still very wary. I have a history of depression, eating disorders, and general craziness and knew they are linked heavily to my diet. I also practice a vegan diet (except on occasional binges, which only increases my negative feelings afterward) In recent months, I noticed the problems becoming worse again (I hadn't had truly bulimic tendencies in months and I found the feelings creeping back in) I just read on the resources link the connection between INCREASED sugar sensitivity and birth control! I just started in January and feel this would explain a lot. I just finished reading the China Study, which basically reaffirmed my belief that animal protein (and too much " added " protein of any kind) is unnecessary and can be harmful. I avoid too much soy and dont tend to do the " protein powder " thing because my body doesnt handle it too well. Finally, to complicate things, I'm working in Korea right now so I can't read labels and I don't like the food. Everything here seems to be sweetened a lottttt and the apartment I'm in doesn't have an oven or a blender (or grater. grr). SO, the questions: 1. If the link between sugar sensitivity and bc exists, what can I do about it? (any way to reduce my cravings other than discontinuing use?) 2. How do I know how much protein is adequate with breakfast? (starting at step one, but unfortunately I can't buy the actual books til I get back to cali in 4 weeks ) 3. any ideas for protein other than nuts (see question 6), soy, and powders? (aka-- are beans and lentils enough?) 4. do you find that protein is, indeed, as important as the program makes it out to be? Is there any reduced need for protein from plant sources (an argument made time and again by vegans) 5. does anyone else experience problems with hunger? I'm thin, fit, and generally healthy but find myself only ever feeling tired or cravings.. rarely ever do i feel hungry, eat, and then feel satisfied. (a series of events i believe is essential to developing good eating habits) 6. i feel when im not eating sugar, i develop a strong urge for fats (which is just as bad) I can eat a whole bag of nuts at a time and then feel terrible digestion for days. Thanks for any or all help! hope this is even clear I'm so tired!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 hi from Mel in London Just chipping in to ask if you know how to calculate how much protein you need to have for your body? It is vital to get enough. One other thing I'll add to Sharon's reply is that when we come to this program, after years of sugar, restrictive eating, whatever, our hunger thermostats are not working at all. Doing the food soon remedies all that, as our bodies begin to get a glimmer of hope that there is any point in communicating with us. Hope you aren't so tired today [sorry I don't know your name yet] Mel --- On Sun, 25/4/10, Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 wrote: Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 Re: 6 questions by a newbie Sunday, 25 April, 2010, 16:30 Hi there! I see you are a voracious reader and really committed to your health, which is great. One of the things this program has done for me (and I've been following it for about 5 years now) is to really tune into listening to what my body tells me. So rather then having a " belief " about how much protein I need or what works for me, I have " experience " with how much protein I need and what works for me. As part of that, I can affirm that the program can be done as a vegetarian, and it can also be done as a vegan. My protein sources: lentils, beans, tofu, eggs, cheese. I don't use protein powder very often, but when I do it's a rice protein powder (like you, I'm keeping an eye on how much soy I eat). So that having been said, here are my personal responses to your questions: 1) Follow the program, starting with step one. Don't worry about " discontinuing use; " that's not part of the program until WAAAAAAAYYYYYY down the road at step six. Focus on step one. 2) You can read more about step one here: http://www.radiantrecovery.com/1r.htm If you would be willing to let us know your weight or how much protein you are shooting for, we can help you brainstorm serving sizes. 3) I have gotten enough protein with beans, lentils, and one soy serving a day, so yes, it can be done. 4) My experience is that protein is indeed as important as the program says. Put a different way, I have experienced that getting the right (for me) amount of protein has made a huge and positive difference in how I feel. 5) I'm sure you could get lots of different answers about this. For me, feeling hungry used to be associated with a dip in blood sugar, a feeling I don't enjoy, so I would eat constantly to make sure that didn't happen. Now I follow the program and eat to hold my blood sugar steady. I do sometimes feel hungry, but I don't usually WAIT until I feel hungry to eat. I eat when it's time to eat, whether I feel hungry or not. 6) That's not a question! But my experience is that when I follow the program, I don't get urges and cravings for things. Hope this helps! Cheers, Sharon ________________________________ orangeishottt07 <orangeishottt07 Sun, April 25, 2010 5:39:33 AM 6 questions by a newbie I've recently started reading about sugar sensitivity and have been learning a lot but I am still very wary. I have a history of depression, eating disorders, and general craziness and knew they are linked heavily to my diet. I also practice a vegan diet (except on occasional binges, which only increases my negative feelings afterward) In recent months, I noticed the problems becoming worse again (I hadn't had truly bulimic tendencies in months and I found the feelings creeping back in) I just read on the resources link the connection between INCREASED sugar sensitivity and birth control! I just started in January and feel this would explain a lot. I just finished reading the China Study, which basically reaffirmed my belief that animal protein (and too much " added " protein of any kind) is unnecessary and can be harmful. I avoid too much soy and dont tend to do the " protein powder " thing because my body doesnt handle it too well. Finally, to complicate things, I'm working in Korea right now so I can't read labels and I don't like the food. Everything here seems to be sweetened a lottttt and the apartment I'm in doesn't have an oven or a blender (or grater. grr). SO, the questions: 1. If the link between sugar sensitivity and bc exists, what can I do about it? (any way to reduce my cravings other than discontinuing use?) 2. How do I know how much protein is adequate with breakfast? (starting at step one, but unfortunately I can't buy the actual books til I get back to cali in 4 weeks ) 3. any ideas for protein other than nuts (see question 6), soy, and powders? (aka-- are beans and lentils enough?) 4. do you find that protein is, indeed, as important as the program makes it out to be? Is there any reduced need for protein from plant sources (an argument made time and again by vegans) 5. does anyone else experience problems with hunger? I'm thin, fit, and generally healthy but find myself only ever feeling tired or cravings.. rarely ever do i feel hungry, eat, and then feel satisfied. (a series of events i believe is essential to developing good eating habits) 6. i feel when im not eating sugar, i develop a strong urge for fats (which is just as bad) I can eat a whole bag of nuts at a time and then feel terrible digestion for days. Thanks for any or all help! hope this is even clear I'm so tired!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Hey there! Thanks for responding! No I don't know how to calculate the amount of protein I need. I'm 5'8, 118 lbs, and 21. I was this weight being an omnivore as well as a vegan, so I'm assuming that means I'm doing it right and intaking enough calories, not sure about the protein though! I'd love to hear how to calculate protein intake! Thanks Casey , mel <shaggypoo.chaos wrote: > > hi from Mel in London > > Just chipping in to ask if you know how to calculate how much protein you need to have for your body? > > It is vital to get enough. > > One other thing I'll add to Sharon's reply is that when we come to this program, after years of sugar, restrictive eating, whatever, our hunger thermostats are not working at all. > > Doing the food soon remedies all that, as our bodies begin to get a glimmer of hope that there is any point in communicating with us. > > Hope you aren't so tired today [sorry I don't know your name yet] > > Mel > > --- On Sun, 25/4/10, Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 wrote: > > > Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 > Re: 6 questions by a newbie > > Sunday, 25 April, 2010, 16:30 > > > Hi there! > > I see you are a voracious reader and really committed to your health, which is great. One of the things this program has done for me (and I've been following it for about 5 years now) is to really tune into listening to what my body tells me. So rather then having a " belief " about how much protein I need or what works for me, I have " experience " with how much protein I need and what works for me. As part of that, I can affirm that the program can be done as a vegetarian, and it can also be done as a vegan. > > My protein sources: lentils, beans, tofu, eggs, cheese. I don't use protein powder very often, but when I do it's a rice protein powder (like you, I'm keeping an eye on how much soy I eat). > > So that having been said, here are my personal responses to your questions: > > 1) Follow the program, starting with step one. Don't worry about " discontinuing use; " that's not part of the program until WAAAAAAAYYYYYY down the road at step six. Focus on step one. > 2) You can read more about step one here: http://www.radiantrecovery.com/1r.htm If you would be willing to let us know your weight or how much protein you are shooting for, we can help you brainstorm serving sizes. > 3) I have gotten enough protein with beans, lentils, and one soy serving a day, so yes, it can be done. > 4) My experience is that protein is indeed as important as the program says. Put a different way, I have experienced that getting the right (for me) amount of protein has made a huge and positive difference in how I feel. > 5) I'm sure you could get lots of different answers about this. For me, feeling hungry used to be associated with a dip in blood sugar, a feeling I don't enjoy, so I would eat constantly to make sure that didn't happen. Now I follow the program and eat to hold my blood sugar steady. I do sometimes feel hungry, but I don't usually WAIT until I feel hungry to eat. I eat when it's time to eat, whether I feel hungry or not. > 6) That's not a question! But my experience is that when I follow the program, I don't get urges and cravings for things. > > Hope this helps! > > Cheers, > Sharon > > > > ________________________________ > orangeishottt07 <orangeishottt07 > > Sun, April 25, 2010 5:39:33 AM > 6 questions by a newbie > > > I've recently started reading about sugar sensitivity and have been learning a lot but I am still very wary. I have a history of depression, eating disorders, and general craziness and knew they are linked heavily to my diet. I also practice a vegan diet (except on occasional binges, which only increases my negative feelings afterward) In recent months, I noticed the problems becoming worse again (I hadn't had truly bulimic tendencies in months and I found the feelings creeping back in) > I just read on the resources link the connection between INCREASED sugar sensitivity and birth control! I just started in January and feel this would explain a lot. > I just finished reading the China Study, which basically reaffirmed my belief that animal protein (and too much " added " protein of any kind) is unnecessary and can be harmful. I avoid too much soy and dont tend to do the " protein powder " thing because my body doesnt handle it too well. > Finally, to complicate things, I'm working in Korea right now so I can't read labels and I don't like the food. Everything here seems to be sweetened a lottttt and the apartment I'm in doesn't have an oven or a blender (or grater. grr). > > SO, the questions: > 1. If the link between sugar sensitivity and bc exists, what can I do about it? (any way to reduce my cravings other than discontinuing use?) > 2. How do I know how much protein is adequate with breakfast? (starting at step one, but unfortunately I can't buy the actual books til I get back to cali in 4 weeks ) > 3. any ideas for protein other than nuts (see question 6), soy, and powders? (aka-- are beans and lentils enough?) > 4. do you find that protein is, indeed, as important as the program makes it out to be? Is there any reduced need for protein from plant sources (an argument made time and again by vegans) > 5. does anyone else experience problems with hunger? I'm thin, fit, and generally healthy but find myself only ever feeling tired or cravings.. rarely ever do i feel hungry, eat, and then feel satisfied. (a series of events i believe is essential to developing good eating habits) > 6. i feel when im not eating sugar, i develop a strong urge for fats (which is just as bad) I can eat a whole bag of nuts at a time and then feel terrible digestion for days. > > Thanks for any or all help! hope this is even clear I'm so tired!! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 OK, no problem. Divide your weight in pounds by 6 to determine how much protein in grams you need for breakfast [and later for each meal]. So approximately 20g protein. Then look up how much protein there is in x ounces or grammes of foods you are going to eat. We only count the protein in actual protein foods, i.e. not any protein in grains or milks or breads for example. For a full discussion, including more on the range of protein requirements, read Potatoes not Prozac [it's brilliant anyway], or see the website. Mel --- On Thu, 29/4/10, orangeishottt07 <orangeishottt07 wrote: orangeishottt07 <orangeishottt07 Re: 6 questions by a newbie Thursday, 29 April, 2010, 2:04 Hey there! Thanks for responding! No I don't know how to calculate the amount of protein I need. I'm 5'8, 118 lbs, and 21. I was this weight being an omnivore as well as a vegan, so I'm assuming that means I'm doing it right and intaking enough calories, not sure about the protein though! I'd love to hear how to calculate protein intake! Thanks Casey , mel <shaggypoo.chaos wrote: > > hi from Mel in London > > Just chipping in to ask if you know how to calculate how much protein you need to have for your body? > > It is vital to get enough. > > One other thing I'll add to Sharon's reply is that when we come to this program, after years of sugar, restrictive eating, whatever, our hunger thermostats are not working at all. > > Doing the food soon remedies all that, as our bodies begin to get a glimmer of hope that there is any point in communicating with us. > > Hope you aren't so tired today [sorry I don't know your name yet] > > Mel > > --- On Sun, 25/4/10, Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 wrote: > > > Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 > Re: 6 questions by a newbie > > Sunday, 25 April, 2010, 16:30 > > > Hi there! > > I see you are a voracious reader and really committed to your health, which is great. One of the things this program has done for me (and I've been following it for about 5 years now) is to really tune into listening to what my body tells me. So rather then having a " belief " about how much protein I need or what works for me, I have " experience " with how much protein I need and what works for me. As part of that, I can affirm that the program can be done as a vegetarian, and it can also be done as a vegan. > > My protein sources: lentils, beans, tofu, eggs, cheese. I don't use protein powder very often, but when I do it's a rice protein powder (like you, I'm keeping an eye on how much soy I eat). > > So that having been said, here are my personal responses to your questions: > > 1) Follow the program, starting with step one. Don't worry about " discontinuing use; " that's not part of the program until WAAAAAAAYYYYYY down the road at step six. Focus on step one. > 2) You can read more about step one here: http://www.radiantrecovery.com/1r.htm If you would be willing to let us know your weight or how much protein you are shooting for, we can help you brainstorm serving sizes. > 3) I have gotten enough protein with beans, lentils, and one soy serving a day, so yes, it can be done. > 4) My experience is that protein is indeed as important as the program says. Put a different way, I have experienced that getting the right (for me) amount of protein has made a huge and positive difference in how I feel. > 5) I'm sure you could get lots of different answers about this. For me, feeling hungry used to be associated with a dip in blood sugar, a feeling I don't enjoy, so I would eat constantly to make sure that didn't happen. Now I follow the program and eat to hold my blood sugar steady. I do sometimes feel hungry, but I don't usually WAIT until I feel hungry to eat. I eat when it's time to eat, whether I feel hungry or not. > 6) That's not a question! But my experience is that when I follow the program, I don't get urges and cravings for things. > > Hope this helps! > > Cheers, > Sharon > > > > ________________________________ > orangeishottt07 <orangeishottt07 > > Sun, April 25, 2010 5:39:33 AM > 6 questions by a newbie > > > I've recently started reading about sugar sensitivity and have been learning a lot but I am still very wary. I have a history of depression, eating disorders, and general craziness and knew they are linked heavily to my diet. I also practice a vegan diet (except on occasional binges, which only increases my negative feelings afterward) In recent months, I noticed the problems becoming worse again (I hadn't had truly bulimic tendencies in months and I found the feelings creeping back in) > I just read on the resources link the connection between INCREASED sugar sensitivity and birth control! I just started in January and feel this would explain a lot. > I just finished reading the China Study, which basically reaffirmed my belief that animal protein (and too much " added " protein of any kind) is unnecessary and can be harmful. I avoid too much soy and dont tend to do the " protein powder " thing because my body doesnt handle it too well. > Finally, to complicate things, I'm working in Korea right now so I can't read labels and I don't like the food. Everything here seems to be sweetened a lottttt and the apartment I'm in doesn't have an oven or a blender (or grater. grr). > > SO, the questions: > 1. If the link between sugar sensitivity and bc exists, what can I do about it? (any way to reduce my cravings other than discontinuing use?) > 2. How do I know how much protein is adequate with breakfast? (starting at step one, but unfortunately I can't buy the actual books til I get back to cali in 4 weeks ) > 3. any ideas for protein other than nuts (see question 6), soy, and powders? (aka-- are beans and lentils enough?) > 4. do you find that protein is, indeed, as important as the program makes it out to be? Is there any reduced need for protein from plant sources (an argument made time and again by vegans) > 5. does anyone else experience problems with hunger? I'm thin, fit, and generally healthy but find myself only ever feeling tired or cravings.. rarely ever do i feel hungry, eat, and then feel satisfied. (a series of events i believe is essential to developing good eating habits) > 6. i feel when im not eating sugar, i develop a strong urge for fats (which is just as bad) I can eat a whole bag of nuts at a time and then feel terrible digestion for days. > > Thanks for any or all help! hope this is even clear I'm so tired!! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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