Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 ThanXgiving Fast 2002 Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans waffle between: A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls, B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so casual comments about anti-Veganism, C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner for like-minded folks, D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with their Tofurkeys, E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans, F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards for " dessert " G) Not going to these gatherings and fasting. That's right! I said FASTING. I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has been a tradition since 1998. I hope some list members will be joining me on this day of torture, death, greed, selfishness and debauchery by doing the same. My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the MILLIONS of animals that are tortured, abused then slaughtered just for this one (1) day alone in the U.S. I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run from 4-6 days. Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful way to clean out the body as far as health is concerned. Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul. Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to the higher being.' It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This was copied from watching animals when they are ill. They either eat greens or nothing at all. Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of protest - thus, the death of Barry Horne. Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across. My fasting tradition has came about when I could no longer go to family gatherings for this 'holiday' and sit around a table infested with dead carcass and by-products. Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we traipsed to our building of worship only to traipse back to a home full of death, abuse and chemical irresponsibility. I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded folks for a holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon this holiday as a festive occasion. Why? Because it also represents false facts throughout American history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery and near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name of 'god.' Recent findings are coming out that there was no turkey - or even any kind of 'meat' - at the dinner; only fruits, vegetables and grains. Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that after these dinners, the male attendees would gather together in front of a television set to watch the bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving the women (slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and watch after the children. You are invited and welcome to join my discussion list. Starting next week there will appear articles, information and guides to coping with the upcoming holidays. For those who wish to " celebrate, " you will find tons of recipes and tips, as well! SoFlaVegans/ I wish everyone who is willing to take the plunge the best of luck in a successful and quick fast, and may all of our efforts pay off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002  I don't particularly dread the holidays. I'll take: H) Go to family get-together. Bring homemade tofu turkey and vegan pumpkin pie. Receive compliments again on how good the pumpkin pie is. Eat higher-fat foods that I usually try to avoid. I'm fairly well practiced at not "watching as others gulp down not chewing these abused souls" as I would think most vegans would be. Then I'll go home and have tofu turkey sandwiches for a couple of days. Have a nice fast. Brett - fidyl All-vegans-unite Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:36 PM All-vegans-unite ThanXgivng Fast 2002 ThanXgiving Fast 2002Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans waffle between:A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls,B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so casual comments about anti-Veganism,C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner for like-minded folks,D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with their Tofurkeys,E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans,F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards for "dessert"G) Not going to these gatherings and fasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 Might I suggest we give thanks for the ability we have to choose whether or not and what we will eat to celebrate at all. Many, many in the world don't have that; don't have anything sufficient for a healthy life. I don't accuse my family and friends who do consume animal they are taking food from the mouthes of starving children. One at a time or even by the dozen, their choice won't make a difference, so why ruin their holiday. I do take opportunity throughout the year to educate in a way they might be receptive to. Neither will I accept blame for what those with no tie to me other than the acrage we occupy did. Even my grandparents have no association to my life, so whatever they did or did not do is none of my responsibility. I can take criticism for what I do today and beg forgiveness for the things I can help and try to do better for my fellow beings and environment. Please do not take any of this as anything more than food for thought. Let's not make that food we ever forgo. > " ~Tammy~ " <tammy > > >RE: ThanXgiving Fast 2002 >Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:26:44 -0600 > > > >Well we do the tofurkey and all the vegan stuff I can think to make, we >have vegan pumpkin pie, stuffing,sweet potatoes, home made vegan ice >cream, cranberrys. Anyway I don't look at it as a day of celebrating for >the suffering that I know goes on, but I look at it as a day of >celebrating what we have given up as a family, me and my two children >ages 9 and 10 and my husband have all converted to veganism. So for us >it is just one more day to prove that being a vegan is so delicious and >so rewarding, inside and outside, sometimes we go with family and >sometimes we don't, it just depends, I don't care to stare at the turkey >but then I don't have to look at it, just like I avoid the meat >department in the grocery store. I have learned that life on earth >doesn't last forever so I want to spend it with my parents and sister >and her family and my family as much as I can, so I have learned to >adapt to their life and they have learned to adapt to mine. We both make >sacrafices. >I have fasted before and did not enjoy it one bit, so I don't plan on >doing it anytime soon, but I will at some point try it again. I hope you >have a great day fasting, and while I don't do the same it doesn't mean >I don't respect you for what you do and I hope it goes both ways, have a >great day. >Hugs >Tammy > > >~Wouldn't it be awful, wouldn't it be queer to be playing in the woods >and be shot by a deer? To be strolling with friends in the afternoon >sun, just to be stopped by a deer with a gun and blasted to bits while >out having some fun? So consider this thought and remember it >clear......It wouldn't be fun to be shot by a deer. ~ > > > > > > fidyl [fidyl] > > ThanXgiving Fast 2002 > > > > Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans > > waffle between: > > > > A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through > > hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down - > > not chewing - these abused souls, > > B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so > > casual comments about anti-Veganism, > > C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner > > for like-minded folks, > > D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with > > their Tofurkeys, > > E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the > > feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans, > > F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards > > for " dessert " > > G) Not going to these gatherings and fasting. > > > > That's right! I said FASTING. > > I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has been a tradition > > since 1998. > > I hope some list members will be joining me on this day of torture, > > death, greed, selfishness and debauchery by doing the same. > > > > My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the MILLIONS of animals > > that are tortured, abused then slaughtered just for this one (1) day > > alone in the U.S. > > > > I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run from 4-6 days. > > > > Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful way to clean > > out the body as far as health is concerned. > > > > Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul. > > > > Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to the higher being.' > > > > It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This was copied from > > watching animals when they are ill. They either eat greens or nothing > > at all. > > > > Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of protest - thus, the > > death of Barry Horne. Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point > > across. > > > > My fasting tradition has came about when I could no longer go to > > family gatherings for this 'holiday' and sit around a table infested > > with dead carcass and by-products. > > Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we traipsed to our > > building of worship only to traipse back to a home full of death, > > abuse and chemical irresponsibility. > > > > I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded folks for a > > holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon this holiday as a festive > > occasion. Why? Because it also represents false facts throughout > > American history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery and > > near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name of 'god.' Recent > > findings are coming out that there was no turkey - or even any kind > > of 'meat' - at the dinner; only fruits, vegetables and grains. > > > > Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that after these > > dinners, the male attendees would gather together in front of a > > television set to watch the bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving > > the women (slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and watch > > after the children. > > > > You are invited and welcome to join my discussion list. > > Starting next week there will appear articles, information and guides > > to coping with the upcoming holidays. > > For those who wish to " celebrate, " you will find tons of recipes and > > tips, as well! > > > > SoFlaVegans/ > > > > I wish everyone who is willing to take the plunge the best of luck in > > a successful and quick fast, and may all of our efforts pay off! > > > > _______________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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