Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 Thank you for this article. This is a great point; and a very good one for debate. However, to compare a woman's right to choose with an abortion to an animal that has no right to choose; that is bred, tortured and multiplied simply for profit, and no other reason; there is no comparison. Put quite simply, with the issue of abortion: Abortion is a matter of choice. A woman has a choice. An animal does not. The hen, cow, pig, bird, or other animal does not have a choice in aborting or having birth to a child; they are tortured and abused to multiply to have these babies; which is then aborted for profit, without the animal having a choice. To compare a woman's right to choose vs. an aborted animal from an animal bred simply for profit; is a good arguement; but not a rational one. Jack Truman Pastor The Universal Equalitarian Church " Where All Species are Created Equal " http://www.equalitarian.tripod.com --- Dave <dave wrote: > Robert Cohen of the " NotMilk " site recently posted > the following > important article: > > http://www.notmilk.com/abortion.html > > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch./u2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Thank you for this article. This is a great point; and a very good one for debate. However, to compare a woman's right to choose with an abortion to an animal that has no right to choose; that is bred, tortured and multiplied simply for profit, and no other reason; there is no comparison. Put quite simply, with the issue of abortion: Abortion is a matter of choice. A woman has a choice. An animal does not. The hen, cow, pig, bird, or other animal does not have a choice in aborting or having birth to a child; they are tortured and abused to multiply to have these babies; which is then aborted for profit, without the animal having a choice. To compare a woman's right to choose vs. an aborted animal from an animal bred simply for profit; is a good arguement; but not a rational one. Jack Truman Pastor The Universal Equalitarian Church " Where All Species are Created Equal " http://www.equalitarian.tripod.com --- Dave <dave wrote: > Robert Cohen of the " NotMilk " site recently posted > the following > important article: > > http://www.notmilk.com/abortion.html > > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch./u2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Uhm... He also talks a lot about fetus, fetus, fetus.. But abortions are only performed on fetuses when there's risk to the mother's life. Abortions are generally done in the first trimester, i.e. on embryos. Embryos do not have their organs and systems fully formed, and are certainly not aware of their own suffering like Cohen claims. Fetuses do feel pain and have memory, but fetal abortions are performed much much different than embryo abortions. Fetuses do deserve rights, but their rights can't come above their mothers' rights. -isabelle. Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:00:17 -0800 (PST) jack truman <trumanjack Re: [VegansUncensored] An article every vegan should read Thank you for this article. This is a great point; and a very good one for debate. However, to compare a woman's right to choose with an abortion to an animal that has no right to choose; that is bred, tortured and multiplied simply for profit, and no other reason; there is no comparison. Put quite simply, with the issue of abortion: Abortion is a matter of choice. A woman has a choice. An animal does not. The hen, cow, pig, bird, or other animal does not have a choice in aborting or having birth to a child; they are tortured and abused to multiply to have these babies; which is then aborted for profit, without the animal having a choice. To compare a woman's right to choose vs. an aborted animal from an animal bred simply for profit; is a good arguement; but not a rational one. Jack Truman Pastor The Universal Equalitarian Church " Where All Species are Created Equal " http://www.equalitarian.tripod.com --- Dave <dave wrote: > Robert Cohen of the " NotMilk " site recently posted > the following > important article: > > http://www.notmilk.com/abortion.html > > _______________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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