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How many in this group live off-grid and use solar, wind, or hydro

power to make their electricity, OR are living without electricity ?

 

How many use a wood cookstove to do all their cooking ?

 

How many live so far out in the wilderness that they come to town

only 2 or 3 times a month to get supplies and use the computer at

the library, or have a computer at home run by satelite, via their

homemade power source ?

 

How many use a donkey, horse or mule for transportation instead of a

car ?

 

How many grow a BIG garden every year and grow their own fruit

trees, and put up thier food for the winter months ?

 

How many have a root cellar ?

 

How many are self-employed and make a living solely from off their

homestead ?

 

If any of you live like this, or wish to live like this, I surely

would like to communicate with you !

 

Louise

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Louise wrote:

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> How many in this group live off-grid and use solar, wind, or hydro

> power to make their electricity, OR are living without electricity ?

 

Not me, I'm a total city girl, but we do our best to reduce our

footprint (community garden, car-free lifestyle, etc.).

 

One of my exes was total self-sufficiency-boy, so I guess I could've

ended up there, but really, even when I lived on a commune, it was in a

fairly urban area.

 

Serene

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*On 1/15/07, serene* <serene-lists wrote:

>

> *Louise wrote:

> > How many in this group live off-grid and use solar, wind, or

> hydro power to make their electricity, OR are living without electricity ?

>

> Not me, I'm a total city girl, but we do our best to reduce our footprint

> (community garden, car-free lifestyle, etc.).*

 

 

So am I - but I'm sharing a flat w 2 others to reduce a housing footprint,

live car-free (do have a car; parents in poor health live 2 hours away, but

I don't use it in the city), and am negotiating w friends for use of some of

their yards for gardens this summer.

 

I've always had a pantry & either do things by hand or use appliances (like

lanterns) with batteries that I can recharge w a solar battery recharger.

 

I would LOVE to live off-grid & am working toward it! :)

 

His in JOY

 

(: Sunshine :)

 

 

 

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HEYY>> that sounds cool.. where can I get a solar battery recharger??

and do the batteries work for all things needing batteries??

 

 

On Jan 16, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Vegan Foodstuffs wrote:

 

> batteries that I can recharge w a solar battery recharger.

 

Jenni

www.little-tomato.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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My landlord is completely off-grid...his house is out of straw/mud, entirely

solar, with a gorgeous view [i live in the shendendoah valley, and he's up on a

mountain], and i've been up to his house and talked ot him a lot about it...its

really amazing, but it just frustrates me to see him live like that, and then to

go back to the house i rent from him, which is gas heat and has no insulation

and has holes in the wall [when we moved in there was an oppossum living in the

house...and we're entirely in the city-limits of harrisonburg, va]...and we have

chronic issues with him doing basic matenience on the house...and because he's

ripping *us* off, he's able to afford to live that way (honestly, living in an

off-grid house is somethign that only incrediabley privledged people can

afford)....but in the great scheme of things our house is so energy

in-efficient, it would be much better for his cumulative footprint to live

on-grid and have our house be at least up to minimual

housing code.

 

but thats *my* rant.

 

Jenni < wrote:

HEYY>> that sounds cool.. where can I get a solar battery recharger??

and do the batteries work for all things needing batteries??

 

On Jan 16, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Vegan Foodstuffs wrote:

 

> batteries that I can recharge w a solar battery recharger.

 

Jenni

www.little-tomato.com

 

 

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WOW!

 

We would love to live like that...pretty much all those things you've listed.

Except for the donkey/horse for transportation.

With my back and neck problems, I couldn't do it.

 

As for the off-grid living...would love to

Wood stove for cooking...love to

Live out in the wilderness...LOVE TO

The garden...hope to have something in the backyard soon

A root cellar...LOVE TO

Self-employed...working on it

 

I'd love to hear what sparked this question {:o)

 

 

, " Louise " <gamountainwoman

wrote:

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> How many in this group live off-grid and use solar, wind, or hydro

> power to make their electricity, OR are living without electricity ?

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, " Louise "

<gamountainwoman wrote:

>

> How many in this group live off-grid and use solar, wind, or hydro

> power to make their electricity, OR are living without

electricity ?

> I wish, it is my hope in the near future to do solar and wind!

> How many use a wood cookstove to do all their cooking ?

>

> How many live so far out in the wilderness that they come to town

> only 2 or 3 times a month to get supplies and use the computer at

> the library, or have a computer at home run by satelite, via their

> homemade power source ?

Some day when my kids are grown I plan to live outside of town.

>

> How many use a donkey, horse or mule for transportation instead of

a

> car ?

> I have six horses but it wouldn't be possible or safe to really use

them for transportation, they are pets and rescue animals.

> How many grow a BIG garden every year and grow their own fruit

> trees, and put up thier food for the winter months ?

I have 15 acres and hope this will be the year!

>

> How many have a root cellar ?

> To wet where I live in NoCal.

> How many are self-employed and make a living solely from off their

> homestead ?

Self-emp, daycare and horse training, so I do use my land. It is my

dream to open an all vegan resturant and use my garden to supply some

the good!

>

> If any of you live like this, or wish to live like this, I surely

> would like to communicate with you !

>I would love to live like this, and someday I will get there. : )

Amanda

>

>

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, serene <serene-

lists wrote:

>

> Louise wrote:

> >

> > How many in this group live off-grid and use solar, wind, or

hydro

> > power to make their electricity, OR are living without

electricity ?

>

> Not me, I'm a total city girl, but we do our best to reduce our

> footprint (community garden, car-free lifestyle, etc.).

>

> One of my exes was total self-sufficiency-boy, so I guess I

could've

> ended up there, but really, even when I lived on a commune, it was

in a

> fairly urban area.

>

> Serene

>

Hi, is he an ex because of the commune lifestyle?

amanda

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amandachex wrote:

>

>

> <%40>, serene <serene-

> lists wrote:

 

> > One of my exes was total self-sufficiency-boy, so I guess I

> could've

> > ended up there, but really, even when I lived on a commune, it was

> in a

> > fairly urban area.

 

> Hi, is he an ex because of the commune lifestyle?

 

No, he didn't live on a commune, I did, and it was years before I met

him. He's an ex because I broke up with him, and I broke up with him

because he was " settling " for me. Best move I ever made.

 

And for an on-topic question, I want to put something into the crockpot

to serve for tonight's craft night. I have lots of beans, very few

veggies on hand, and no desire to make chili. Ideas?

 

Serene

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Spanish Rice and Beans?

Refried Beans (pick up some tortilla chips and salsa)?

Bean soup?

can't think of anything more glamorous

 

On 22 Jan 2007, at 16:35, serene wrote:

 

> amandachex wrote:

> >

> >

> > <%40>, serene <serene-

> > lists wrote:

>

> > > One of my exes was total self-sufficiency-boy, so I guess I

> > could've

> > > ended up there, but really, even when I lived on a commune, it was

> > in a

> > > fairly urban area.

>

> > Hi, is he an ex because of the commune lifestyle?

>

> No, he didn't live on a commune, I did, and it was years before I met

> him. He's an ex because I broke up with him, and I broke up with him

> because he was " settling " for me. Best move I ever made.

>

> And for an on-topic question, I want to put something into the

> crockpot

> to serve for tonight's craft night. I have lots of beans, very few

> veggies on hand, and no desire to make chili. Ideas?

>

> Serene

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Sheramy Keegan-Turcotte wrote:

>

> Spanish Rice and Beans? Refried Beans (pick up some tortilla chips

> and salsa)? Bean soup? can't think of anything more glamorous

 

Honestly, we're completely out of money until the 8th of next month, so

it has to be something I have around the house. So I went to the

archives for this group (yay, group!) and picked up message #2068, so

we're having spicy chili beans (I know, I said I wasn't in the mood for

chili, but this is different from our normal chili -- it has no

tomatoes, several kinds of beans, and is apparently spicier than my

chili) and vegan " cheese " sauce.

 

For the next couple of weeks, I get to really put my skills of throwing

together meals out of what I have in the pantry to the test. Yesterday,

I made three meals' worth of seitan, and last night we had a

seitan-and-macaroni skillet with a tomatoey curry sauce and some frozen

broccoli. It was actually really good.

 

Serene

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Wow, you have much better ingenuity than I have during broke

periods. Well, maybe I'd do better now if I hit a financial pothole,

but last time, about 9 years ago, my girlfriend and I would often

snack on white rice topped with barbecue sauce. (Shudder.) Once, in

college, I made a macaroni sandwich (cooked some macaroni, drained

it enough to it kind of clumped together, then put it on white-bread

toast with ketchup and mustard)! Now THAT was misguided--but I was

so broke I ate it anyway--couldn't let it go to waste!

 

Anybody else have any tragicomic or triumphant tales of creative

eating during hard times?

 

, serene <serene-

lists wrote:

>

> Sheramy Keegan-Turcotte wrote:

> >

> > Spanish Rice and Beans? Refried Beans (pick up some tortilla

chips

> > and salsa)? Bean soup? can't think of anything more glamorous

>

> Honestly, we're completely out of money until the 8th of next

month, so

> it has to be something I have around the house. So I went to the

> archives for this group (yay, group!) and picked up message #2068,

so

> we're having spicy chili beans (I know, I said I wasn't in the

mood for

> chili, but this is different from our normal chili -- it has no

> tomatoes, several kinds of beans, and is apparently spicier than

my

> chili) and vegan " cheese " sauce.

>

> For the next couple of weeks, I get to really put my skills of

throwing

> together meals out of what I have in the pantry to the test.

Yesterday,

> I made three meals' worth of seitan, and last night we had a

> seitan-and-macaroni skillet with a tomatoey curry sauce and some

frozen

> broccoli. It was actually really good.

>

> Serene

>

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The one that stands out is while in college for a period of time I had no

transportation. I lived mostly on coffee and rarely ever had a meal per se.

But decided to splurge the day I got my next terms money. You can't imagine

how excited I was. I walked about two miles to the grocery store, bought a

little tiny piece of meat and a small chocolate milk. I walked the two miles

back home drooling all the way, cooked the meat, sat down to eat my special

treat with my milk, opened the milk and it was sour...which of course I

discovered only after taking a huge drink. Ruined my taste buds, made me

gag. I wasn't going to walk four miles to get some more. I was so depressed,

absolutely depressed. Oh, I remember eating fried bologna in ketchup. Maybe

had a baked potato once in a while. I can't recall what I ate probably

because that was a rare occurrence. However, I must say those four years

were the best in my life. But obviously my creative side didn't come out

during that period of my life like yours. LOL

linda

linda's organic gardens: womyn47

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" carolj1974 " <carolj1974

 

> Wow, you have much better ingenuity than I have during broke

> periods. Well, maybe I'd do better now if I hit a financial pothole,

> but last time, about 9 years ago, my girlfriend and I would often

> snack on white rice topped with barbecue sauce. (Shudder.) Once, in

> college, I made a macaroni sandwich (cooked some macaroni, drained

> it enough to it kind of clumped together, then put it on white-bread

> toast with ketchup and mustard)! Now THAT was misguided--but I was

> so broke I ate it anyway--couldn't let it go to waste!

>

> Anybody else have any tragicomic or triumphant tales of creative

> eating during hard times?

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Okay, that sounds REALLY good. Do you have a recipe?

 

, serene <serene-

lists wrote:

last night we had a

> seitan-and-macaroni skillet with a tomatoey curry sauce and some

frozen

> broccoli.

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smartgirl27us wrote:

> serene <serene-

> lists

>> wrote: last night we had a

>> seitan-and-macaroni skillet with a tomatoey curry sauce and some

>> frozen broccoli.

>

> Okay, that sounds REALLY good. Do you have a recipe?

 

 

I have a rough recipe. I think this would also work fine in the

crockpot if you tossed it all in after the sauteeing, but I'll try it

some time and let you know.

 

I sauteed half an onion (chopped) in a little bit of peanut oil for a

minute or two, then tossed in about a tablespoon of good curry powder.

Sauteed a little more until the onion was translucent. Next, add a cup

of vegetable juice (I used an off-brand, but V8 or tomato juice should

work), 2 servings' worth of seitan, and a cup or so of frozen broccoli

pieces. Add two servings' worth of cooked elbow macaroni and cook/stir

until the broccoli is as done as you want it. Salt to taste (we left it

as it was).

 

Serene

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