Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Hi everyone, I love this group and I love hearing what everyone is doing with their slow cookers. But, as an author, I'm sometimes concerned when I see plagiarism on a listserv. I wanted to note that, copying recipes directly from books onto this list should be avoided because the author's work is copyrighted. Ingredients are *not* copyrighted, so if you take a recipe, and play with it, make changes, omissions, or additions, then write it out new instructions *in your own words* that is perfectly ok, and is to be encouraged. (It's also ok to tell where your inspiration came from, i.e. " I was inspired by xxx recipe in Fresh from the Vegetarian Slow Cooker by Robin Robertson, " ). Happy new year, and happy cooking everyone! Best, Amy p.s. My husband made a lovely seitan vegetable stew this weekend, I'll see if I can get him to jot down the recipe, I'd love to share it with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I do understand what you are saying here but I will say that seeing and trying out recipes posted from cook books on this group and on others have inspired me to order these books from Amazon. I live in Scotland and many of these cookbooks are not available over here so I would not have the opportunity to go into a bookshop and flick through them. Since joining both this group and others I have purchased: Robon Robertson's Fresh from the Vegetarian Slow Cooker, Vegan Planet, Quick-Fix Vegetarian; Judith Finlayson's 125 Best Vegetarian Slow Cooker Recipes, Isa Chandra Moskowitz's Vegan with a Vengeance; Tanya Petrovna's Native Foods Restaurant Cookbook, Sarah Kramer's La Dolce Vegan and Jeff Rogers' Vice Cream. In turn these have inspired me to get back out there in the book store buying more cookbooks and requesting that they stock more vegan cookbooks. I know that I would not have purchased these books sight unseen without recipes having been posted from these books. I don't believe that I would have purchased the books after reading someone else's recipe inspired by the book. It seems to me that the cookbook writers have actually gained by this. I know I am only one person but I would imagine that the same is true for others. Christie , " Amy O'Neill Houck " <aoh wrote: > > Hi everyone, I love this group and I love hearing what everyone is > doing with their slow cookers. But, as an author, I'm sometimes > concerned when I see plagiarism on a listserv. > > I wanted to note that, copying recipes directly from books onto this > list should be avoided because the author's work is copyrighted. > Ingredients are *not* copyrighted, so if you take a recipe, and play > with it, make changes, omissions, or additions, then write it out new > instructions *in your own words* that is perfectly ok, and is to be > encouraged. (It's also ok to tell where your inspiration came from, > i.e. " I was inspired by xxx recipe in Fresh from the Vegetarian Slow > Cooker by Robin Robertson, " ). > > Happy new year, and happy cooking everyone! > > Best, > > Amy > > p.s. My husband made a lovely seitan vegetable stew this weekend, > I'll see if I can get him to jot down the recipe, I'd love to share > it with you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I don't think it is plagiarism when you are " sharing " a recipe and you state where you found it and so on. That can only be a good thing, surely? I mean to take it to extremes it's like saying you make a meal for a friend who comes to visit. She LOVES the meal and asks for the recipe but you tell her you can't share it as she would have to buy the book herself first! I'm not sure that's how anyone expects you to go on! I don't think there are many recipes out there that are totally original and as long as you are not passing them off as your own I don't see how you can call it plagiarism. JMHO. On 06/01/2008, christie_0131 <christie0131 wrote: > > I do understand what you are saying here but I will say that seeing > and trying out recipes posted from cook books on this group and on > others have inspired me to order these books from Amazon. I live in > Scotland and many of these cookbooks are not available over here so I > would not have the opportunity to go into a bookshop and flick > through them. Since joining both this group and others I have > purchased: > Robon Robertson's Fresh from the Vegetarian Slow Cooker, Vegan > Planet, Quick-Fix Vegetarian; Judith Finlayson's 125 Best Vegetarian > Slow Cooker Recipes, Isa Chandra Moskowitz's Vegan with a Vengeance; > Tanya Petrovna's Native Foods Restaurant Cookbook, Sarah Kramer's La > Dolce Vegan and Jeff Rogers' Vice Cream. In turn these have inspired > me to get back out there in the book store buying more cookbooks and > requesting that they stock more vegan cookbooks. I know that I would > not have purchased these books sight unseen without recipes having > been posted from these books. I don't believe that I would have > purchased the books after reading someone else's recipe inspired by > the book. It seems to me that the cookbook writers have actually > gained by this. I know I am only one person but I would imagine that > the same is true for others. > Christie > > --- In <%40>\ , > " Amy O'Neill Houck " > <aoh wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, I love this group and I love hearing what everyone is > > doing with their slow cookers. But, as an author, I'm sometimes > > concerned when I see plagiarism on a listserv. > > > > I wanted to note that, copying recipes directly from books onto > this > > list should be avoided because the author's work is copyrighted. > > Ingredients are *not* copyrighted, so if you take a recipe, and > play > > with it, make changes, omissions, or additions, then write it out > new > > instructions *in your own words* that is perfectly ok, and is to > be > > encouraged. (It's also ok to tell where your inspiration came > from, > > i.e. " I was inspired by xxx recipe in Fresh from the Vegetarian > Slow > > Cooker by Robin Robertson, " ). > > > > Happy new year, and happy cooking everyone! > > > > Best, > > > > Amy > > > > p.s. My husband made a lovely seitan vegetable stew this weekend, > > I'll see if I can get him to jot down the recipe, I'd love to > share > > it with you. > > > > > -- (¯`v´¯) `*.¸.*´ ¸.•´¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨ (¸.•´ (¸.•´ Gorgeous, blogging daily at http://apparenting.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I believe that the original poster mixed their terminology and meant breach of copyright rather than plagiarism, which is the attempt to pass someone else's work off as one's own. Strictly speaking copying your favourite recipe for your friend would be breach of copyright, but no-one is going to bother about it on that scale. Reproducing it in a public forum is another matter. To a certain extent I was playing devil's advocate and saying whilst it may be wrong it may also be benefitting rather than decreasing sales. Of course some authors like Robin Robertson publish some of their recipes on their own websites, which is a great introduction to their work. Christie , " Tiffany Baker " <TBABaker wrote: > > I don't think it is plagiarism when you are " sharing " a recipe and you state > where you found it and so on. That can only be a good thing, surely? > I mean to take it to extremes it's like saying you make a meal for a friend > who comes to visit. She LOVES the meal and asks for the recipe but you tell > her you can't share it as she would have to buy the book herself first! I'm > not sure that's how anyone expects you to go on! I don't think there are > many recipes out there that are totally original and as long as you are not > passing them off as your own I don't see how you can call it plagiarism. > JMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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