Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Has anyoneever heard that beans cooked in a crock pot can cause food poisoning? It was discussed in a livejournal recipe community and this reference to wikipedia was given: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crock_pot#Disadvantages Not that wikipedia is a great source, but that is really weird. We have eat beans from our crock pot at least once a week and I cook the baby's beans in there. Just in case this has been discussed before, I will post a recipe to make up for it : ) _______________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12200\ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Beth Manchester wrote: > Has anyoneever heard that beans cooked in a crock pot can cause food poisoning? > The only thing that I have heard in this regard is that kidney beans need to boil for a certain amount of time to kill off some toxin. I haven't heard of any problem with any other kind of bean. --Donna-- _____________________________ www.unskoolbookshop.com _____________________________ " The fatal pedagogical error is to throw answers, like stones, at the heads of those who have not yet asked the questions. " --Paul Tillich _____________________________ " Freedom is not something that anybody can be given. Freedom is something people take, and people are as free as they want to be. " --James Baldwin ______________________________\ ________ Dissent is patriotic. _____________________________ " But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy. " --Plutarch ______________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 yikes! does anyone have any more information on this....i read the wiki article and links therein....... --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Beth Manchester <pumpkingirl71 wrote: Beth Manchester <pumpkingirl71 beans and food poisoning? Friday, January 2, 2009, 9:11 PM Has anyoneever heard that beans cooked in a crock pot can cause food poisoning? It was discussed in a livejournal recipe community and this reference to wikipedia was given: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crock_pot#Disadvantages Not that wikipedia is a great source, but that is really weird. We have eat beans from our crock pot at least once a week and I cook the baby's beans in there. Just in case this has been discussed before, I will post a recipe to make up for it : ) _______________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12200\ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Not only heard of it... experienced it. Which prompted me to research what the heck had happened and to make a public service announcement of sorts: http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog/2006/07/15/boil-those-beans/ -Erin http://www.VeganDoneLight.com , Beth Manchester <pumpkingirl71 wrote: > > > Has anyoneever heard that beans cooked in a crock pot can cause food poisoning? It was discussed in a livejournal recipe community and this reference to wikipedia was given: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crock_pot#Disadvantages > Not that wikipedia is a great source, but that is really weird. We have eat beans from our crock pot at least once a week and I cook the baby's beans in there. > Just in case this has been discussed before, I will post a recipe to make up for it : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 I suspect that if this were a widespread problem there would be a warning listed either on the raw kidney bean packaging or on the crockpot packaging that indicates cooking raw kidney beans in a crockpot should not be done. It would have most certainly hit the news and/or the vegetarian/vegan/crockpot websites by now. Here is some information from the FDA: http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap43.html From what this document says, fully cooked beans are considered safe. I don't think the beans have to necessarily be boiled in order to be fully cooked. It does, however, appear that partially cooked beans can be a bigger problem than uncooked ones. While the plural of anecdote is not data, I can tell you that I've been cooking raw, soaked kidney beans in a crockpot for years and never had any trouble. HOpe that helps! , maria paciullo <mariapaciullo wrote: > > yikes! does anyone have any more information on this....i read the wiki article and links therein....... > > --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Beth Manchester <pumpkingirl71 wrote: > > Beth Manchester <pumpkingirl71 > beans and food poisoning? > > Friday, January 2, 2009, 9:11 PM > > Has anyoneever heard that beans cooked in a crock pot can cause food poisoning? > It was discussed in a livejournal recipe community and this reference to > wikipedia was given: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crock_pot#Disadvantages > Not that wikipedia is a great source, but that is really weird. We have eat > beans from our crock pot at least once a week and I cook the baby's beans in > there. > Just in case this has been discussed before, I will post a recipe to make up > for it : ) > _______________ > It's the same Hotmail®. If by " same " you mean up to 70% faster. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail? ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 For me it's been about 30 years of routinely slow cooking beans and I'm still here to tell the tale with nary a sickness from eating them. Slow cooked beans are great and I believe it's one of the best uses for the appliance. threefatesfiber wrote: > I can tell you that I've been cooking raw, soaked kidney beans in a crockpot for years and never had any trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 I also have read about some toxin only with kidney beans. I found out about it through thecrockpotlady. Previously, I was happily ignorant. I think it's a raw bean issue, so perhaps the only concern would be not cooking beans long enough. Who eats raw beans anyway? ~ Kristin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 That's good to know because I cook all other beans in my crockpot, but I had given up on kidney beans. Donna _____________________________ www.unskoolbookshop.com _____________________________ " But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy. " --Plutarch ------ Debbie wrote: > > For me it's been about 30 years of routinely slow cooking beans and I'm > still here to tell the tale with nary a sickness from eating them. Slow > cooked beans are great and I believe it's one of the best uses for the > appliance. > > threefatesfiber wrote: > > I can tell you that I've been cooking raw, soaked kidney beans in a > crockpot for years and never had any trouble. > > > </message/2546;_ylc=X3oDMTM0\ cWUxY2hxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQxNDA0NDEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDQxNzE2BG1zZ0lkAzI1\ NTQEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjMxMDE2MDY0BHRwY0lkAzI1NDY-> > </post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwOXNiMHE3\ BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQxNDA0NDEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDQxNzE2BG1zZ0lkAzI1NTQEc2Vj\ A2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjMxMDE2MDY0?act=reply & messageNum=2554> -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 This myth, that one needs to worry about being poisoned from undercooked beans, is akin to the periodic " soy is bad for you " stuff. Considering the importance of beans/legumes in human diet for thousands of years, I think it's safe to assume that if there was a big problem, everyone would be aware of it by now, and bean packages would have (ahem) " warning labels. " For many years, speaking from personal experience, I sprouted beans and put them on salads. No problem. Although the crockpot is fine for cooking beans, I tend to soak them overnight, cook for around 15 minutes (boil/turn down low) depending on type of bean (certainly not lentil or adzuki), then add to crockpot for the meal I'm making. I also will soak a couple of types of beans and cook, then store in plastic bags in freezer. When needed: pull out, add. Quite simple and very useful. Today: black-eyed peas... threw in some green pepper, tabasco sauce, pepper, onions, celery, tomatoes (home canned with liquid/thyme), set to high in small 1 1/2 qt. crockpot (I own 5 different crockpots). May add a touch of balsamic vinegar, the recipe is essentially one variation on " Hoppin' John. " Probably take around 5 hours. Planning to serve on " broiled " millet polenta slices with side salad and white miso-based dressing. ....all no added fat.... FYI, Mark http:/www.soulveggie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 i've cooked chickpeas once in a slowcooker. i don't know if it applies to chickpeas? i know the fda article did say it applies to cannelini beans, and i did cook cannelini beans in a slowcooker. when they are cooking all day for 8 hours, don't they come to a boil? we didn't get sick at all, although i specifically remember thinking that the canned cannelini beans tasted better than the slowcooker ones (but the chickpeas i cooked were better than canned) --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Erin <truepatriot wrote: Erin <truepatriot Re: beans and food poisoning? Saturday, January 3, 2009, 2:33 PM Not only heard of it... experienced it. Which prompted me to research what the heck had happened and to make a public service announcement of sorts: http://www.zenpawn. com/vegblog/ 2006/07/15/ boil-those- beans/ -Erin http://www.VeganDon eLight.com Vegan_Crockpot_ Cooking@gro ups.com, Beth Manchester <pumpkingirl71@ ...> wrote: > > > Has anyoneever heard that beans cooked in a crock pot can cause food poisoning? It was discussed in a livejournal recipe community and this reference to wikipedia was given: > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Crock_pot# Disadvantages > Not that wikipedia is a great source, but that is really weird. We have eat beans from our crock pot at least once a week and I cook the baby's beans in there. > Just in case this has been discussed before, I will post a recipe to make up for it : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 So... presumably those who have cooked their beans in a slow cooker and have no ill effects had the luck of having their beans reaching boiling temp for 10 minutes or more without their making sure of it. (I know with my Crockpots, both under 10 years old, the struggle is to keep the temp low enough so soups, etc., do not burn around the edges.) I'm not really surprised. There are many foods that aren't good for you unless they are cooked, or have parts that are good and some harmful. (Pokeweed is one example.) Our ancestors knew the rules for preparing the foods that were common in their regions. Paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 I doubt my beans are boiling. Except for garbanzos and soy beans I always cook my beans on low. I supposed they /could/ boil when I'm not looking (those sneaky devils), but I don't think so. I think the risk is probably real but minimal. An airplane /could/ fall on your house. A bear /could/ get into your house and eat you. The government or aliens /could/ be controlling your thoughts with microwaves. These things have happened to people (okay, maybe not the thought control thing; maybe). I'm sure some people have gotten sick from eating incompletely cooked kidney beans. If you live in a busy flight path (and are afraid) you might move, if you live where bears roam freely (and are afraid) you get stronger doors and windows (or move). If you're afraid the government or aliens are controlling your thoughts you wear hats made of aluminum foil. If you have a compromised immune system (or are afraid) you might boil your kidney beans (and cannellini beans are kidney beans, just white instead of red) before slow cooking them. Frankly, I greatly prefer the taste of other kinds of beans instead of kidney beans so, though I have cooked them in a slow cooker, I don't do it often. Maybe I'm minimizing my risk that way, who knows. Debbie Calesta Rising Oaks wrote: > So... presumably those who have cooked their beans in a slow cooker and have > no ill effects had the luck of having their beans reaching boiling temp for > 10 minutes or more without their making sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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