Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 I'm new here...the rookie vegan. I would take some recipes in lieu of an invitation to brunch (please, pretty please). OR, tips on what products are hot and what's not. I don't have a Whole Foods nearby...the closest thing to me is a Trader Joe's. Any suggestions appreciated. I'm having a tough time finding products without milk. Sandy Central California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Sandy ... you have a small problem? Wanna live in Toronto? We have the veggie world at our doorsteps! You name it, we gots it! okay .. maybe not ... you live in California? Here's the deal if you can get it ... Fantastic Foods has a bunch of stuff Vegetarian Chilli Nature's Burger Tofu Burger Tofu Scrambler Whatever you do, don't buy Fantastic Foods Hummus or Falafel .. make your own from scratch .. even if you fuck it up a few times to start, it will still be better than theirs ... Boca Burger is pretty cool ... Gimme Lean makes an amazing " Sausage " and " Ground (god, I hate to say it) Beef " type thingy .. the " Sausage " one is very, very good ... If you get really lazy .. there is a product called Golden Chunks or Golden Nuggets or something like that ... you toss it in the oven for 10 minutes and it comes like chicken nuggets or something ... In Canada, there is a company called Yves ... they make everything ... breakfast links, veggie back bacon, " Just Like Ground, " tofu dogs (not all that great), deli slices, tofu ham slices ... not sure if you can their stuff in the U.S., but, believe it or not, in Toronto, it's more common to find this stuff than real hot dogs some times ...(maybe it's 'cause we aren't looking for real hot dogs?) ... Recipes ... I think Anji's site is full of them ... http://www3.sympatico.ca/anji/recipes.html I just make shit up as I go along ... experiment a lot .. just make sure that you eat the right stuff ... try and get rid of bread and potatoes ... what ever you do, don't substitute bread and potatoes for meat ... get those greens! lots of bok choy, broccoli, spinach, rapini, (all good for iron, calcium) stuff like that ... baked squash ... sweet potatoes is a very good carb ... cauliflower for calcium . ... tvp (textured vegetable protein - like So-Soya or Soya Chunks) or tofu for protein ... Good luck .. and if you really need some stuff to make that you don't find on Anji's site ... just send me a mail ... carnival take care Vikas Sharma of Operations & Media Carnival Management Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival Email: carnival Edit4You [faison5] Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:09 PM Re: Planet-Vegan events 2000! " Edit4You " <faison5 I'm new here...the rookie vegan. I would take some recipes in lieu of an invitation to brunch (please, pretty please). OR, tips on what products are hot and what's not. I don't have a Whole Foods nearby...the closest thing to me is a Trader Joe's. Any suggestions appreciated. I'm having a tough time finding products without milk. Sandy Central California --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking for the lowest refinance rate for your mortgage? GetSmart.com can help. We'll help you find the loan you need - quick, easy, and FREE click <a href= " http://clickme./ad/GetSmartRefinance " >Click Here</a> ------ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Hi Vikas. What's wrong with bread & potatoes (assuming of course that we're not talking about sliced white and french fries)? Iron, vitamin C......what is it that I don't know? Cheers Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Hello beautiful people, Mark your calendars, cuz you're all coming over on Sunday! Well I wish it could be so, but you're all invited anyway. As many of you are already aware, I have vegan brunches on Sundays. We (Nadine, Anthony, Paul, myself, sometimes Stan, and now Vik) have the Sunday brunch tradition because it is impossible to get decent vegan diner food. So in lieu of opening a restaurant we open up our home to our groovy like-minded friends. It's one of my resolutions to get more of you here. So, you simply must come over on Sunday. Yes you! Email me if you need my new address, and let me know what time is good for you. See you then! -anji Those of you that are not in Toronto, I wish I could fly you in for the weekend. If you ever come to Toronto let me know. -- _____________ Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmamail.com powered by OutBlaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Hi Cathy ... Basically ... what happens with most new vegetarians is that they become dependant on Bread and Potatoes to supplement meat in their diet ... Bread is one of the most " unnatural " foods in our diet ... it's completely man-made processed shit ... we need to slowly but surely eliminate it from our diets ... I know we all love it ... I mean could you imagine going to an Indian joint and not having Naan with your meal? But, the stuff has so much gluten in it ... even most of the whole wheat loaves we pick up from the grocery still aren't much better than the white loaves. There are some good breads at the health food store, but I don't even bother with them ... I just try and keep my bread intake down ... I don't really buy it at home any more .. only when I am out ... Potatoes are the same deal, except I think it has more to do with the starch and sugars it creates in our bodies ... I think that Sweet Potatoes don't create all that much glucose ... which is what I believe Bread and Potatoes create in our bodies ... and glucose isn't all that good for us .. especially if we are overweight and have a risk of contracting diabetes (which I am both - about 20 lbs overweight and have a history of diabetes in my family). So, I eat potatoes about once every two months ... rice is better ( I eat that several times per week) ... I have cut pasta down to once every couple of weeks ... don't eat Bread with your pasta if you can help it ... get more greens ... you can never get enough greens in the diet. Talk to you soon! Vik Vikas Sharma of Operations & Media Carnival Management Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival Email: carnival Phone 416. Cathy Jupp [Cathy] Thursday, January 27, 2000 3:13 AM RE: Planet-Vegan events 2000! Cathy Jupp <Cathy Hi Vikas. What's wrong with bread & potatoes (assuming of course that we're not talking about sliced white and french fries)? Iron, vitamin C......what is it that I don't know? Cheers Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Anji ... what time Sunday? Vikas Sharma of Operations & Media Carnival Management Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival Email: carnival Phone 416. anji b [vegan] Thursday, January 27, 2000 7:00 AM Planet-Vegan events 2000! " anji b " <vegan Hello beautiful people, Mark your calendars, cuz you're all coming over on Sunday! Well I wish it could be so, but you're all invited anyway. As many of you are already aware, I have vegan brunches on Sundays. We (Nadine, Anthony, Paul, myself, sometimes Stan, and now Vik) have the Sunday brunch tradition because it is impossible to get decent vegan diner food. So in lieu of opening a restaurant we open up our home to our groovy like-minded friends. It's one of my resolutions to get more of you here. So, you simply must come over on Sunday. Yes you! Email me if you need my new address, and let me know what time is good for you. See you then! -anji Those of you that are not in Toronto, I wish I could fly you in for the weekend. If you ever come to Toronto let me know. -- _____________ Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmamail.com powered by OutBlaze --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking for the lowest refinance rate for your mortgage? GetSmart.com can help. We'll help you find the loan you need - quick, easy, and FREE click <a href= " http://clickme./ad/GetSmartRefinance " >Click Here</a> ------ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Dear Vikas - thanks for the advice, that's the first I've heard of any of this. I too am carrying a surplus, though I'll not mention how much, and my uncle had diabetes which I am desperate to avoid. I eat tons of potatoes, baked, boiled, mashed and even occasionally oven chips. I'm only on one small wholemeal loaf a week and I don't always finish it, so hopefully not too bad there. Both bread and potatoes are heavily advocated by nutritional experts here in the UK - we are actually advised to cut down on animal foods and eat plenty of bread, potatoes, pasta and rice. We're also told to eat at least five portions of fruit and vegetables a day - how does that compare with the advice in Canada? I am well displeased to know that there will be a vegan Sunday brunch there for the asking and I am prevented by several thousand miles! Thanks anyway Anji. It sounds like you are all totally spoilt in Canada - I have to drive thirty miles to eat out! I know what Sandy means about having trouble finding foods without dairy. When I converted (all of 6 months ago) I had a very frustrating time because so many foods seem to contain whey or milk in some form, often completely unnecessarily. Unfortunately I've come to the conclusion that the only way is to buy basic ingredients rather than manufactured foods and cook from scratch (with the obvious exception of bread!). I make most of my own soup (apart from one vegan variety) and I no longer have with cakes or biscuits because I can't be bothered to cook them. Maybe as the world becomes gradually more enlightened then the manufacturers will realise that by including animal products they are automatically reducing their potential market, but I'm not holding my breath! Sounds like you are a lot further along that path than the UK. Thank again for the info. Cheers Cathy PS being nosy, I just checked out your website. Steve and I went to see Joe Satriani last year - amazing! > ---------- > Vikas Sharma[sMTP:carnival] > Reply > 27 January 2000 14:35 > > RE: Planet-Vegan events 2000! > > " Vikas Sharma " <carnival > > Hi Cathy ... > > Basically ... what happens with most new vegetarians is that they become > dependant on Bread and Potatoes to supplement meat in their diet ... > > Bread is one of the most " unnatural " foods in our diet ... it's completely > man-made processed shit ... we need to slowly but surely eliminate it from > our diets ... I know we all love it ... I mean could you imagine going to > an > Indian joint and not having Naan with your meal? But, the stuff has so > much > gluten in it ... even most of the whole wheat loaves we pick up from the > grocery still aren't much better than the white loaves. There are some > good > breads at the health food store, but I don't even bother with them ... I > just try and keep my bread intake down ... I don't really buy it at home > any > more .. only when I am out ... > > Potatoes are the same deal, except I think it has more to do with the > starch > and sugars it creates in our bodies ... I think that Sweet Potatoes don't > create all that much glucose ... which is what I believe Bread and > Potatoes > create in our bodies ... and glucose isn't all that good for us .. > especially if we are overweight and have a risk of contracting diabetes > (which I am both - about 20 lbs overweight and have a history of diabetes > in > my family). > > So, I eat potatoes about once every two months ... rice is better ( I eat > that several times per week) ... I have cut pasta down to once every > couple > of weeks ... don't eat Bread with your pasta if you can help it ... get > more > greens ... you can never get enough greens in the diet. > > Talk to you soon! > > Vik > > Vikas Sharma > Director of Operations & Media > Carnival Management > > Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival > Email: carnival > Phone 416. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Hi Cathy ... I think in Canada, we are advised to eat 4-5 portions of grains, breads and cereals .. (I have heard that Cereals are one of the greatest producers of glucose in the human body ... go with Fructose instead ... from fruits) .. Wheat grass ... if you can dig it ... has a very high percentage of protein in it ... In Canada .. they changed the food guide a bit ... they ballooned the amount of fruits and vegetables to something like 7 -10 servings per day .. Meat is like 2 servings and so is dairy ... the ONLY reason those are on there, is because the Canadian govt. much the like the US, heavily subsidises those industries ... From what I have been informed ... there used to be like 10 food groups or something crazy like that ... and when the dairy and meat industry was being " plugged " ... they Canada Food Guide was knocked down to like 4 groups .. and I think, not sure ... but vegetables were only like 4-5 servings per day... For some reason I figured that Veganism was much more widespread in the U.K. I mean there was a vegetarian society there in the 1800's ... Gandhi was a part of it when he was in University ... Joe Satriani? Yes, I missed the show ... had a play a show of my own that night ... I think Steve Vai and Kirk Hammet (Metallica) are still trying to convert him to vegetarianism ... Ciao, Vikas Sharma of Operations & Media Carnival Management Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival Email: carnival Phone 416. Cathy Jupp [Cathy] Thursday, January 27, 2000 10:53 AM RE: Planet-Vegan events 2000! Cathy Jupp <Cathy Dear Vikas - thanks for the advice, that's the first I've heard of any of this. I too am carrying a surplus, though I'll not mention how much, and my uncle had diabetes which I am desperate to avoid. I eat tons of potatoes, baked, boiled, mashed and even occasionally oven chips. I'm only on one small wholemeal loaf a week and I don't always finish it, so hopefully not too bad there. Both bread and potatoes are heavily advocated by nutritional experts here in the UK - we are actually advised to cut down on animal foods and eat plenty of bread, potatoes, pasta and rice. We're also told to eat at least five portions of fruit and vegetables a day - how does that compare with the advice in Canada? I am well displeased to know that there will be a vegan Sunday brunch there for the asking and I am prevented by several thousand miles! Thanks anyway Anji. It sounds like you are all totally spoilt in Canada - I have to drive thirty miles to eat out! I know what Sandy means about having trouble finding foods without dairy. When I converted (all of 6 months ago) I had a very frustrating time because so many foods seem to contain whey or milk in some form, often completely unnecessarily. Unfortunately I've come to the conclusion that the only way is to buy basic ingredients rather than manufactured foods and cook from scratch (with the obvious exception of bread!). I make most of my own soup (apart from one vegan variety) and I no longer have with cakes or biscuits because I can't be bothered to cook them. Maybe as the world becomes gradually more enlightened then the manufacturers will realise that by including animal products they are automatically reducing their potential market, but I'm not holding my breath! Sounds like you are a lot further along that path than the UK. Thank again for the info. Cheers Cathy PS being nosy, I just checked out your website. Steve and I went to see Joe Satriani last year - amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 Hi Folks, Welcome, Sandy, and anyone else who might be new here but hasn't introduced themselves. I just wanted to comment on breads and such. I like them a lot, but I eat mostly rice for carbs. I imagine that potatoes and pasta and bread are really not too bad for you, but it's just too easy to eat too much of them. I find that sometimes I eat way too much if I don't have any fat in my meal because that's what gives you the full feeling. Sweet foods also accomplish the same thing, and sweet AND fatty foods (like Toffuti Cuties) make for a very satisfying desert. Carbs are good for getting energy, but you don't want to overdo it. I doubt if you can get too much vegetable in your diet as long as you eat a diverse variety, I mean there are lots of healthy people who eat rice and vegetables and maybe some tofu (think Buddhists) every day. By the way, I was told that Naan bread has milk or yogurt in it, which was disappointing to me because I love naan bread. My friend, Amit, owns a restaurant called Royal Kashmir and he's always very straight with me on what's vegan (unlike most restaurateurs) even though he eats and serves meat in his restaurant. I was surprised to find that there's milk in his naan. It may not be the case in all restaurants, and you could double check when buying naan at a store. whoops, gotta run. Ciao for now, Anthony Vikas Sharma wrote: > > " Vikas Sharma " <carnival > > Hi Cathy ... > > Basically ... what happens with most new vegetarians is that they become > dependant on Bread and Potatoes to supplement meat in their diet ... > > Bread is one of the most " unnatural " foods in our diet ... it's completely > man-made processed shit ... we need to slowly but surely eliminate it from > our diets ... I know we all love it ... I mean could you imagine going to an > Indian joint and not having Naan with your meal? But, the stuff has so much > gluten in it ... even most of the whole wheat loaves we pick up from the > grocery still aren't much better than the white loaves. There are some good > breads at the health food store, but I don't even bother with them ... I > just try and keep my bread intake down ... I don't really buy it at home any > more .. only when I am out ... > > Potatoes are the same deal, except I think it has more to do with the starch > and sugars it creates in our bodies ... I think that Sweet Potatoes don't > create all that much glucose ... which is what I believe Bread and Potatoes > create in our bodies ... and glucose isn't all that good for us .. > especially if we are overweight and have a risk of contracting diabetes > (which I am both - about 20 lbs overweight and have a history of diabetes in > my family). > > So, I eat potatoes about once every two months ... rice is better ( I eat > that several times per week) ... I have cut pasta down to once every couple > of weeks ... don't eat Bread with your pasta if you can help it ... get more > greens ... you can never get enough greens in the diet. > > Talk to you soon! > > Vik > > Vikas Sharma > Director of Operations & Media > Carnival Management > > Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival > Email: carnival > Phone 416. > > > Cathy Jupp [Cathy] > Thursday, January 27, 2000 3:13 AM > > RE: Planet-Vegan events 2000! > > Cathy Jupp <Cathy > > Hi Vikas. > What's wrong with bread & potatoes (assuming of course that we're not > talking about sliced white and french fries)? Iron, vitamin C......what is > it that I don't know? > Cheers > Cathy > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Looking for the lowest refinance rate for your mortgage? > GetSmart.com can help. We'll help you find the loan you > need - quick, easy, and FREE click > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/GetSmartRefinance " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2000 Report Share Posted January 28, 2000 Hey Anthony I have seen what you are talking about .. in some store bought Naan's ... most of them don't have the milk or yoghurt ... but some do ... Now, here's the scary part ... I just checked out my recipe book for Naan, and, the verdict is ... indeed... the recipe calls for not only milk, but also yoghurt ... Now, I remember when I was a kid, working in an Indian Restaurant, that the owners didn't use milk or yoghurt to make Naan, however, I think it will be best for me to ask each time I go ... which is quite often ... or perhaps just frequent the ones that don't use it .. because, I mean, how can you not have Naan with your daal or with your saag? It just doesn't seem right, does it? We'll figure this out! Vikas Sharma of Operations & Media Carnival Management Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival Email: carnival Phone 416. Anthony Wong [anthony] Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:24 PM Re: Planet-Vegan events 2000! Anthony Wong <anthony Hi Folks, Welcome, Sandy, and anyone else who might be new here but hasn't introduced themselves. I just wanted to comment on breads and such. I like them a lot, but I eat mostly rice for carbs. I imagine that potatoes and pasta and bread are really not too bad for you, but it's just too easy to eat too much of them. I find that sometimes I eat way too much if I don't have any fat in my meal because that's what gives you the full feeling. Sweet foods also accomplish the same thing, and sweet AND fatty foods (like Toffuti Cuties) make for a very satisfying desert. Carbs are good for getting energy, but you don't want to overdo it. I doubt if you can get too much vegetable in your diet as long as you eat a diverse variety, I mean there are lots of healthy people who eat rice and vegetables and maybe some tofu (think Buddhists) every day. By the way, I was told that Naan bread has milk or yogurt in it, which was disappointing to me because I love naan bread. My friend, Amit, owns a restaurant called Royal Kashmir and he's always very straight with me on what's vegan (unlike most restaurateurs) even though he eats and serves meat in his restaurant. I was surprised to find that there's milk in his naan. It may not be the case in all restaurants, and you could double check when buying naan at a store. whoops, gotta run. Ciao for now, Anthony Vikas Sharma wrote: > > " Vikas Sharma " <carnival > > Hi Cathy ... > > Basically ... what happens with most new vegetarians is that they become > dependant on Bread and Potatoes to supplement meat in their diet ... > > Bread is one of the most " unnatural " foods in our diet ... it's completely > man-made processed shit ... we need to slowly but surely eliminate it from > our diets ... I know we all love it ... I mean could you imagine going to an > Indian joint and not having Naan with your meal? But, the stuff has so much > gluten in it ... even most of the whole wheat loaves we pick up from the > grocery still aren't much better than the white loaves. There are some good > breads at the health food store, but I don't even bother with them ... I > just try and keep my bread intake down ... I don't really buy it at home any > more .. only when I am out ... > > Potatoes are the same deal, except I think it has more to do with the starch > and sugars it creates in our bodies ... I think that Sweet Potatoes don't > create all that much glucose ... which is what I believe Bread and Potatoes > create in our bodies ... and glucose isn't all that good for us .. > especially if we are overweight and have a risk of contracting diabetes > (which I am both - about 20 lbs overweight and have a history of diabetes in > my family). > > So, I eat potatoes about once every two months ... rice is better ( I eat > that several times per week) ... I have cut pasta down to once every couple > of weeks ... don't eat Bread with your pasta if you can help it ... get more > greens ... you can never get enough greens in the diet. > > Talk to you soon! > > Vik > > Vikas Sharma > Director of Operations & Media > Carnival Management > > Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/carnival > Email: carnival > Phone 416. > > > Cathy Jupp [Cathy] > Thursday, January 27, 2000 3:13 AM > > RE: Planet-Vegan events 2000! > > Cathy Jupp <Cathy > > Hi Vikas. > What's wrong with bread & potatoes (assuming of course that we're not > talking about sliced white and french fries)? Iron, vitamin C......what is > it that I don't know? > Cheers > Cathy > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Looking for the lowest refinance rate for your mortgage? > GetSmart.com can help. We'll help you find the loan you > need - quick, easy, and FREE click > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/GetSmartRefinance " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking for the lowest refinance rate for your mortgage? GetSmart.com can help. We'll help you find the loan you need - quick, easy, and FREE click <a href= " http://clickme./ad/GetSmartRefinance " >Click Here</a> ------ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2000 Report Share Posted January 30, 2000 you poor thing trader joes yuck!!!!! gorham - " Edit4You " <faison5 < > Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:09 PM Re: Planet-Vegan events 2000! > " Edit4You " <faison5 > > I'm new here...the rookie vegan. I would take some recipes in lieu of an > invitation to brunch (please, pretty please). OR, tips on what products are > hot and what's not. I don't have a Whole Foods nearby...the closest thing to > me is a Trader Joe's. Any suggestions appreciated. I'm having a tough time > finding products without milk. > > Sandy > Central California > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Looking for the lowest refinance rate for your mortgage? > GetSmart.com can help. We'll help you find the loan you > need - quick, easy, and FREE click > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/GetSmartRefinance " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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