Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 >Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:04:38 >ivu-toronto Herbivore NaturalHealthTalk Pesco-Veg veg veg-alberta VegManiacs wholefood WV-Veg >Liz Nyburg <enyburg >What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > >Hello everyone, > >Can I ask for your comments? > >How do you get your Vitamin D? I'm a journalism student at >Ryerson Polytechnic University doing an article on vegans, >Vitamin D and food labelling for my professor. I eat lots >of vegan food (for environmental reasons), but every six weeks >or so (when I'm someone's guest) I'll eat m**t. > >I would love to hear any opinions or experiences from >people who are trying to get regular Vitamin D (or who >have taken too much), and what your reasons are. > >Thanks in advance! > >Yours gratefully, > >Elizabeth Nyburg (416) 224-1593 While not reading the newspapers is a practice to be condemned, there are times when it can yield interesting results. --Doris Lessing, A Proper Marriage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 Hi Liz, Too bad you didn't come to anji's on saturday! It was a great time as per usual. As for vitamin D, when I found that the vitamin D supplements are made from fish I decided to synthesize my own using sunlight and a big piece of skin that I grew myself (it's very useful for other things too - everyone should have one). Apparently, it's quite effective; you just need to expose the skin equivicaly to 5 minutes of sunlight per day on the arms and face, which is easy even in the winter. I'll let you know how it's going when I finally go to get some blood tests to see if I'm deficient in anything. For a little background, I've been a vegan for about six months, and my health is considerably better in all the visible measures like skin consistency, athletic ability, sickness, hair and nail growth/smoothness. The sickness thing is interesting. I haven't gotten sick once since becoming vegan which is amazing considering that I would normally have gotten a cold or two by now and that both my roomates and several co-workers and friends have gone through nasty flus and sore throats this winter. I also haven't gotten any cold sores on my lips (which makes me very happy), of which I would have gotten once or twice by this time year. I can't scientificaly attribute these health improvements to veganism (case studies involving one subject aren't given much clout in the scientific community) but clearly I'm as healthy or healthier than when I ate meat and dairy. My skin has cleared up dramatically and I can run faster further than before and I'm not having trouble putting on muscles when I lift weights. I have lots of energy. My blood pressure is also better than normal. How else can I measure my health? Sometimes I wonder if all this nutrition stuff is blown way out of proportion. I don't eat particularily carefully. I just try to get a good variety of cooked or raw vegetables along with the junk food, tofu dogs, excessive beer, ramen noodles, potato chips etc. but some days the only green things I eat are life savers, and even then it depends on where I am in the roll. I suppose this is more information than what you were asking for, but that's the way I am. Sorry. Anthony Liz Nyburg wrote: > > Liz Nyburg <enyburg > > >Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:04:38 > >ivu-toronto Herbivore NaturalHealthTalk Pesco-Veg veg veg-alberta VegManiacs wholefood WV-Veg > >Liz Nyburg <enyburg > >What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > > > >Hello everyone, > > > >Can I ask for your comments? > > > >How do you get your Vitamin D? I'm a journalism student at > >Ryerson Polytechnic University doing an article on vegans, > >Vitamin D and food labelling for my professor. I eat lots > >of vegan food (for environmental reasons), but every six weeks > >or so (when I'm someone's guest) I'll eat m**t. > > > >I would love to hear any opinions or experiences from > >people who are trying to get regular Vitamin D (or who > >have taken too much), and what your reasons are. > > > >Thanks in advance! > > > >Yours gratefully, > > > >Elizabeth Nyburg (416) 224-1593 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 Hello, Every morning I eat a delicious cranberry raspberry flavoured chewable multivitamin which takes about a minute and leaves me with the whole rest of the day to not obsess about vitamins. A while ago I was at the Eaton Centre and I was starving, enough to go to the food court. I noticed I approached the food court at the same time as a girl about my age. I looked around and of course picked a place to get my food by deduction. The only really appropriate place for me to get food was the falafel place. I got a falafel plate with the chickpea balls, tabouli salad, eggplant, pita and hummus, apple juice etc. I had a varied plate that was pretty tasty and reasonably nutritious. I watched the girl who I had arrived with as she went up to the Arby's Burgers. She had presumably the whole place to choose from, and had a hamburger, frenchfries, and a coke. Now I doubt very much that she was sitting over there pondering the significant lack of fibre, vitamin C, vitamin A, folic acid, etc in her chosen meal. But as a vegan I'm supposed to be sitting over there going " Oh my God! I didn't get 200 IU of vitamin D today! Good God, did I get 15mcg of B12?! Oh no, I'll get anemia, osteoporosis!... " I ate healthier than her BY DEFAULT. I had no choice but to have the most nutritious meal at the place. Not only did I have dark greens in my meal but I also probably went home and had a fortified glass of soymilk. The other girl however, representing Standard North-American Dietary habits, is the one we should be concerned about. After all, the meat she ate AND the coke she drank caused her to deplete (ie. piss out) calcium. But I digress. Society needs to start talking to typical meat-eaters about vitamins and nutrients, and stop contributing to vegan nutritional paranoia. We could do better with our time saving innocent sentient lives than sitting around worrying about how some meat-eater told us that his cousin's wife's sister had rickets because she didn't drink cow pus. Drink fortified soymilk, get some sun, forget the rest. Okay, that's my rant. Here's what the American Dietetic Association has to say: " Vitamin D is poorly supplied in all diets unless vitamin D-- fortified foods are consumed. Vegan diets may lack this nutrient because fortified cow's milk is its most common dietary source. However, vegan foods supplemented with vitamin D, such as soymilk and some cereals, are available. Furthermore, findings indicate that sunlight exposure is a major factor affecting vitamin D status and that dietary intake is important only when sun exposure is inadequate. Sun exposure to hands, arms, and face for 5 to 15 minutes per day is believed to be adequate to provide sufficient amounts of vitamin D. " http://www.eatright.org/adap1197.html > >Can I ask for your comments? > > > >How do you get your Vitamin D? I'm a journalism student at > >Ryerson Polytechnic University doing an article on vegans, > >Vitamin D and food labelling for my professor. I eat lots > >of vegan food (for environmental reasons), but every six weeks > >or so (when I'm someone's guest) I'll eat m**t. > > > >I would love to hear any opinions or experiences from > >people who are trying to get regular Vitamin D (or who > >have taken too much), and what your reasons are. -- _____________ Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmamail.com powered by OutBlaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 Dear Anji I've rarely heard so much good sense expressed so neatly! Thank you for pointing out the obvious to me - it's not US who need to worry! I've always half-trusted my instincts with food, you know how sometimes you really fancy a certain food - or even food group (usually starch in my case, pasta being favourite), well I just go with it and hope my body knows what it's doing. The more I think about it, the more incredible it seems to me that the average person assumes that if you're a meat-eater then you automatically have nothing to worry about nutritionally. Cheers. Cathy. > ---------- > anji b[sMTP:vegan] > Reply > 02 February 2000 03:22 > > Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > > " anji b " <vegan > > Hello, > > Every morning I eat a delicious cranberry raspberry flavoured chewable > multivitamin which takes about a minute and leaves me with the whole rest > of the day to not obsess about vitamins. > > A while ago I was at the Eaton Centre and I was starving, enough to go to > the food court. I noticed I approached the food court at the same time as > a girl about my age. I looked around and of course picked a place to get > my food by deduction. The only really appropriate place for me to get food > was the falafel place. I got a falafel plate with the chickpea balls, > tabouli salad, eggplant, pita and hummus, apple juice etc. I had a varied > plate that was pretty tasty and reasonably nutritious. I watched the girl > who I had arrived with as she went up to the Arby's Burgers. She had > presumably the whole place to choose from, and had a hamburger, > frenchfries, and a coke. > > Now I doubt very much that she was sitting over there pondering the > significant lack of fibre, vitamin C, vitamin A, folic acid, etc in her > chosen meal. But as a vegan I'm supposed to be sitting over there going > " Oh my God! I didn't get 200 IU of vitamin D today! Good God, did I get > 15mcg of B12?! Oh no, I'll get anemia, osteoporosis!... " > > I ate healthier than her BY DEFAULT. I had no choice but to have the most > nutritious meal at the place. Not only did I have dark greens in my meal > but I also probably went home and had a fortified glass of soymilk. The > other girl however, representing Standard North-American Dietary habits, > is the one we should be concerned about. After all, the meat she ate AND > the coke she drank caused her to deplete (ie. piss out) calcium. > > But I digress. Society needs to start talking to typical meat-eaters about > vitamins and nutrients, and stop contributing to vegan nutritional > paranoia. We could do better with our time saving innocent sentient lives > than sitting around worrying about how some meat-eater told us that his > cousin's wife's sister had rickets because she didn't drink cow pus. > > Drink fortified soymilk, get some sun, forget the rest. > > Okay, that's my rant. > > Here's what the American Dietetic Association has to say: > " Vitamin D is poorly supplied in all diets unless vitamin D-- fortified > foods are consumed. Vegan diets may lack this nutrient because fortified > cow's milk is its most common dietary source. However, vegan foods > supplemented with vitamin D, such as soymilk and some cereals, are > available. Furthermore, findings indicate that sunlight exposure is a > major factor affecting vitamin D status and that dietary intake is > important only when sun exposure is inadequate. Sun exposure to hands, > arms, and face for 5 to 15 minutes per day is believed to be adequate to > provide sufficient amounts of vitamin D. " > http://www.eatright.org/adap1197.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 just curious if your doctor has ever run an ANA & SED rate counts on you. I have Lupus w/ symptoms. My brother (the big healthy cop) has cold sores (canker sores) only. Our mother has Lupus (and yes, it is genetic, but not always from the previous generation..). Since starting the vegan life 2 weeks ago, I have noted everything that you said...whereas before I could barely move from chronic pain. My Rheumatologist suggested 50% fruits and vegtables daily...what he was trying to say was...forget the meat and dairy...go vegan. Every Lupus book you pick up says to limit your amount of meat and forget dairy all together...just curious.... S. ---------- >Anthony Wong <anthony >enyburg >Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? >Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 5:40 PM > >I also haven't gotten any cold sores on my lips >(which makes me very happy), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? Hi Interesting about the Vitamin D thing. As a animal eater and now as a non animal eater I never really worried about it because you get it from sunlight. Maybe you mean B12? Anyhew I also have an interesting health condition (which I wont discuss here) but Mr doctor was pleased to see my cholesterol drop to a very low but healthy level (not that it was really high or anything but he noticed!) three months into my veganism. My B12 is good and all is well with my health. The only thing Im low on is iron, but hey, even when I ate lots of meat I was low in iron and often anemic. There goes THAT myth. It sounds weird but also one day Anji asked me about how my asthma was...and I noticed I just didnt have it anymore even though I still smoke like a chimney. Hmm oh yeh its true its easier to develop muscle and I have so much energy now. I guess thats it but on a side note- I also can smell things better and taste things better. Weird, but true. Go Cegan! Peace, Bliss. " Edit4You " <faison5 Wed, 02 Feb 2000 07:19:33 -0800 Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > > > " Edit4You " <faison5 > > just curious if your doctor has ever run an ANA & SED rate counts on you. I > have Lupus w/ symptoms. My brother (the big healthy cop) has cold sores > (canker sores) only. Our mother has Lupus (and yes, it is genetic, but not > always from the previous generation..). Since starting the vegan life 2 > weeks ago, I have noted everything that you said...whereas before I could > barely move from chronic pain. My Rheumatologist suggested 50% fruits and > vegtables daily...what he was trying to say was...forget the meat and > dairy...go vegan. Every Lupus book you pick up says to limit your amount of > meat and forget dairy all together...just curious.... > > S. > ---------- > >Anthony Wong <anthony > >enyburg > >Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > >Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 5:40 PM > > > > >I also haven't gotten any cold sores on my lips > >(which makes me very happy), > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and > select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. > > ------ > > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/ > > > -- _____________ Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmamail.com powered by OutBlaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 um that would be GO VEGAN lol " amazon grrrl " <bliss Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:38:41 +0800 Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > > > " amazon grrrl " <bliss > > > > Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > > Hi > Interesting about the Vitamin D thing. As a animal eater and now as a non animal eater I never really worried about it because you get it from sunlight. Maybe you mean B12? Anyhew I also have an interesting health condition (which I wont discuss here) but Mr doctor was pleased to see my cholesterol drop to a very low but healthy level (not that it was really high or anything but he noticed!) three months into my veganism. My B12 is good and all is well with my health. The only thing Im low on is iron, but hey, even when I ate lots of meat I was low in iron and often anemic. There goes THAT myth. > It sounds weird but also one day Anji asked me about how my asthma was...and I noticed I just didnt have it anymore even though I still smoke like a chimney. > Hmm oh yeh its true its easier to develop muscle and I have so much energy now. > I guess thats it but on a side note- I also can smell things better and taste things better. Weird, but true. Go Cegan! > > Peace, > Bliss. > > " Edit4You " <faison5 > Wed, 02 Feb 2000 07:19:33 -0800 > > Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > > > > > > " Edit4You " <faison5 > > > > just curious if your doctor has ever run an ANA & SED rate counts on you. I > > have Lupus w/ symptoms. My brother (the big healthy cop) has cold sores > > (canker sores) only. Our mother has Lupus (and yes, it is genetic, but not > > always from the previous generation..). Since starting the vegan life 2 > > weeks ago, I have noted everything that you said...whereas before I could > > barely move from chronic pain. My Rheumatologist suggested 50% fruits and > > vegtables daily...what he was trying to say was...forget the meat and > > dairy...go vegan. Every Lupus book you pick up says to limit your amount of > > meat and forget dairy all together...just curious.... > > > > S. > > ---------- > > >Anthony Wong <anthony > > >enyburg > > >Re: What's your opinion on getting Vitamin D? > > >Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 5:40 PM > > > > > > > >I also haven't gotten any cold sores on my lips > > >(which makes me very happy), > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and > > select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. > > > > ------ > > > > > > Post message: > > Subscribe: - > > Un: - > > List owner: -owner > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > /community/ > > > > > > > -- > > > _____________ > Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmamail.com > > > powered by OutBlaze > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and > select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. > > ------ > > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/ > > > -- _____________ Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmamail.com powered by OutBlaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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