Guest guest Posted March 26, 2000 Report Share Posted March 26, 2000 << Bees don't die in the making of honey >> Actually, Paul, many people wouldn't agree with this statement. Here are some links for anyone who is interested. Carol Paragraphs 6-8 of http://www.pitt.edu/~hslst7/honey/honey.html ( " Honey is not vegan " ) discuss treatment of bees by factory bee farmers. Another good discussion is available at http://www.vegsource.com/joanne/qahoney.htm ( " Is Honey Vegan? " ). Excerpt from http://enterprise.powerup.com.au/~kkaos/alpha1.html ( " Ethical Consumption " ): * Bee products - pollen, honey, royal jelly, wax. Extraction of these substances all leads to deprivation or damage to the insects. Sugar is often substituted for the stolen honey, bees legs are sometimes torn off in pollen collection. Bees wax is derived from the honey comb meant to accommodate food stores and young of the insects. Used in lipsticks, many cosmetics, the wax can be easily substituted with paraffin (petroleum based) or vegetable oil, ceresin or carnauba wax. Beepollen is used in nutritional supplements, cosmetic products and toothpastes. A large list of beekeeping links is available at http://www.beekeeping.co.nz/others.htm , a pro-beekeeping site. And here's an excerpt from http://www.vegansociety.com/why/whyanimals.html ( " Why Vegan? " ) from The Vegan Society (the supposed coiners of the term " vegan " in 1944): BEES In similar ways to other farmed animals, bees are manipulated to provide a range of useful products - being honey, beeswax, propolis, bee pollen, royal jelly (bee milk) and even venom. Beekeepers puff smoke into hives to calm the bees and make them easier to handle. However, this increases the chances of them being crushed during comb manipulation. To prevent her leaving the hive and taking the colony with her ('swarming'), the queen's wings are clipped. She is inseminated artificially with sperm obtained from decapitated bees. The queen is killed when her egg-laying abilities decline and, consequently, the hive becomes less productive - usually after 2 years. During this time she will have laid 300,000 eggs; in the wild she would have produced over 500,000 during a natural lifespan. After removal, honey (produced by bees as a food source for lean winter months) is substituted with a nutrient-deficient white sugar solution. Artificial pollen substitutes are also deployed; however, colonies deprived of natural pollen will soon become weak and less productive. Synthetic pesticides and antibiotics may also be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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