St. Ives/animal testing

[Guest guest]

>I have had the same trouble with soap. I bought some soap that I

>thought would be vegan friendly. It is by St. Ives and called Apricot

>scrub.

 

I used to use a lot of St Ives products but when I become vegan I checked

them out and they were owned by 'Alberto-Culver' who test on animals. I

don't have any old bottles around but if it wasn't Alberto it was another

large company that tests on animals. I'd avoid St. Ives.

 

I find that a lot of companies lie. Probably intentionally. I've been

researching some Australian companies and some of them say all their

products are vegan and then I find out they're not. I just hope they're

telling the truth about their research methods. I keep a list of all

suspect ingredients while shopping just to be on the safe side.

[Guest guest]

At 12:08 PM 4/8/00 +1000, you wrote:

>

>>I have had the same trouble with soap. I bought some soap that I

>>thought would be vegan friendly. It is by St. Ives and called Apricot

>>scrub.

>

>I used to use a lot of St Ives products but when I become vegan I checked

>them out and they were owned by 'Alberto-Culver' who test on animals. I

>don't have any old bottles around but if it wasn't Alberto it was another

>large company that tests on animals. I'd avoid St. Ives.

>

>I find that a lot of companies lie. Probably intentionally. I've been

>researching some Australian companies and some of them say all their

>products are vegan and then I find out they're not. I just hope they're

>telling the truth about their research methods. I keep a list of all

>suspect ingredients while shopping just to be on the safe side.

>

I use a lot of Aubrey's Organics (they label the products that are vegan

and they seem to be pretty honest) and I don't think they ever tested on

animals. I know we can't be sure that all companies are telling the truth,

but I tend to believe the smaller/environmentally friendly companies over

the big corps. I find Aubrey's in health food stores and mail order.

" The value of a society is based upon its kindness to animals. " -- Albert

Schweitzer

 

" The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way

its animals are treated. " ---Gandhi

 

" While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we

expect any ideal conditions on this earth? "

George Bernard Shaw (playwright, Nobel 1925)

 

Even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea,

they have all one breath, so that a man hath no pre-eminence above a beast.

Ecclesiastes 3:19 (The Bible)

 

" Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of

life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. "

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)