Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 >I love animals because... Not as much love as it is respect and appreciation… Just like you don’t have to love blacks not to be racist… >I think Pythagoras is cool because... He was different from most people, and in every generation it is those type of people that have truly made a difference… >My favourite vegetarian restaraunt in my area is... The vegetarium on the University of Toronto campus… can’t go wrong for a vegan meal for 4 bucks (especially when that’s canadian dollars!) >Sometimes when I think of all the animals being exploited I... feel deep anger and resentment for the world around me… But then I think of all those who have worked so hard to help them and I smile… >The best thing about being veg*n is... Knowing you have made a difference however small it may be, and knowing that the cruelty of the factory farm is in no way fueling the energy in your body… (among MANY other things!) >The trouble with being veg*n is... That there aren’t more of us, especially when it comes to dating since the last thing I wanna do is kiss a girl who’s just crammed six burgers in her mouth… >A book that has really inspired me is... ‘Animal Liberation’ by Peter Singer… He puts all of my emotion into rational logic that not even the best philosopher in the world can debate with… >A person who has really inspired me is... Henry Spira… If you don’t know him look him up, he has fought every minute of his life against exploitation, be it animal or human… >Meat-eaters... scare me… They show that if you believe something is right hard enough it can become so in your head… And given the world around us right now that thought is terrifying… >My favourite vegan junk food is... Vegan chocolate cake… it’s the only pastry I’m able to successfully make with my limited culinary abilities… >My favourite vegan dish is... soup, soup and more soup… >McDonalds sucks because... They represent everything that’s wrong with the world right now and capitalism in general… Be it in their exploitation of the environment, humans or animals and their constant brainwashing of impressionable youth (and adults for that matter) >I joined Planet-Vegan because... Share ideas and hopes for a better world… and maybe find someone with similar interests in my area… >My favourite famous vegetarian is... Moby (for the essays in his CDs); Alanis Morissette (just love everything about her); and Woody Harrelson (for his awesome fashion sense) >My plan to change the world is... oh, that’s confidential… But when it happens you’ll know… I’ll end with one of my favorite quotes: “Isn’t man an amazing animal? He kills the environment and wildlife by the million-forests, oceans, birds, deer, all kinds of cats, coyotes, beavers, groundhogs, mice, and foxes-in order to protect himself, his farm animals and their feed. Then he unnecessarily kills domestic animals by the billion and eats them. This in turn kills man by the million, because eating all those animals leads to degenerative-and fatal-health conditions like heart disease, and cancer. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for “Peace on Earth.”...” Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Kamrinn Roy at kamrinn wrote: >> A book that has really inspired me is... > ‘Animal Liberation’ by Peter Singer… He puts all of my > emotion into rational logic that not even the best > philosopher in the world can debate with… I don't know about that. If you don't buy utilitarianism in general, it's more difficult to agree with Singer's arguments (though not necessarily his conclusions.) There are plenty of excellent critiques of his theories, and plenty of philosophers can debate what he has to say - his logic is fine, so there are no holes to poke in his argument, but there are plenty of other ways to argue against a point of view. My 2 cents as a student of philosophy, james. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Hi James, <<I don't know about that. If you don't buy utilitarianism in general, it's more difficult to agree with Singer's arguments (though not necessarily his conclusions.) There are plenty of excellent critiques of his theories, and plenty of philosophers can debate what he has to say - his logic is fine, so there are no holes to poke in his argument, but there are plenty of other ways to argue against a point of view.>> I believe there's a chapter in AL that discusses vivisection, and he argues in favor of it to some degree. Utilitarianism is bad. That's the plain and simple of it. I'm still waiting for Singer's essay: " War, And Why It Is Good For Us - A Utilitarian Perspective " . - Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 Dave Shishkoff at dave wrote: > I believe there's a chapter in AL that discusses vivisection, and he argues > in favor of it to some degree. I haven't read Animal Liberation, my exposure to Singer is limited to an essay that appeared in a textbook for my medical ethics class, which was about animal rights in general, and even though he seems to be considered radical in the philosophical world with regard to animals, IIRC, he didn't even argue that nonhuman animals had rights, per se, (only that we have duties to them.. whatever that cryptic distinction is supposed to mean) and is pretty objectifying of nonhumans the way that people who are against animal rights often are. > Utilitarianism is bad. That's the plain and simple of it. I have no problem with it, and find it more bearable than, say, Kant's deontology, but I do think it's largely unjustifiable/unjustified (especially in premises) like many/most other ethical theories. (I am a nihilist.) -james. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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