Insulin

May 10, 2000

there would be consequences too to creating genetically-engineered

bacteria. which would affect the animals and the planet. genetic

engineering is currently polluting plants and killing off butterflies, or

other beings that we don't know of yet. and of course there is a ripple

effect. and don't forget the crossing of species that is occurring with

genetic engineering-- who knows what could be in that g.e. bacteria.

after all, they are putting fish genes in corn, antibiotics in bananas.

(and who are the test models for g.e. products in the university

laboratories? yep-- animals.) we could be creating another monster.

furthermore, i think that one reason that diabetes is so prevalent in the

western world is through an unhealthy, highly processed diet. of course,

not all diabetes in all people is caused by this. but food-- especially

excessive amounts of refined sugar--can be a factor in the onset of

diabetes.

i am not sure what the answer is. but i do not believe we can create

compassionate change in our world by compromising any being-- including a

small bacterium.

ravenna

--- Anthony Wong <anthony wrote:

> I though I should append a disclaimer to my comment about diabetes and

> insulin. I didn't mean to suggest that people with diabetes are bad for

> buying insulin made from cow pancreas. If there weren't so many cows

> being slaughtered for food, insulin would be synthesized by genetically

> engineered bacteria for economic reasons. While cows pancreas's are

> cheap " by-products " of meat, there is no economic incentive for this

> research to be completed, and thus there is no cruelty-free insulin

> option that I'm aware of.

>

> Anthony

>

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May 14, 2000

Sprout, this article is mostly about heart disease and dairy consumption, but

they mention childhood diabetes. Maybe the article cited is on the web...

Carol

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<< ...about the correlation of coronary mortality with the consumption of

various foods. Guess what topped the list? Not meat. Not eggs. Not animal

fats. First on the list was milk protein, second was milk fats, and third was

sugar..... Milk is also a cause of malabsorption disorders[2], and may be a

cause of some mental illnesses[3],[4], and juvenile diabetes[5]. .......

5. Saukkonen T. Virtanen SM. Karppinen M. Reijonen H. Ilonen J. Rasanen L.

Akerblom HK. Savilahti E.Institution Children's Hospital, University of

Helsinki, Finland. Significance of cow's milk protein antibodies as risk

factor for childhood IDDM: interactions with dietary cow's milk intake and

HLA-DQB1 genotype. Childhood Diabetes in Finland Study Group. Diabetologia.

41(1):72-8, Jan. 1998.>>

In a message dated 5/14/2000 12:48:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sprout26 writes:

<< What specifically in the " horrible diet " causes diabetes? >>

May 14, 2000

What specifically in the " horrible diet " causes diabetes?

Sat, 13 May 2000 21:50:12 -0700

> " Anna Blaine " <ablaine

> Re: insulin

>

> You're partially right - the increase of cases of adult onset diabetes

> is the result of horrible diet. But there is another cause of the

> increase of diabetes in the Western world - medicine. Sufferers of

> juvenile diabetes (the genetically caused type) are receiving better

> health care and surviving to reproduce, which increases the number of

> people carrying the responsible gene. Not that I have a problems with

> this - my niece suffers from juvenile diabetes and I will be perfectly

> happy to see her live a long life. This is just an interesting fact.

>

> -Annie

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May 14, 2000

" What specifically in the " horrible diet " causes diabetes? "

Well, I'm not an expert, but I believe it's the high content of fat. Adult

onset diabetes occurs almost solely in the obese.

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sprout

Sunday, May 14, 2000 1:50 PM