Guest guest Posted July 9, 2000 Report Share Posted July 9, 2000 http://www.ivu.org/evu/english/news/news983/couple.html A Young Couple's Experience from EVU News, Issue 3 /1998 Kosotie and Marie are a young couple who live in the south of Sweden, in a small town called Akarp. Kosotie is 38, and Marie is 34 years old, and they have a 16-month-old boy, Alve. They live a good and happy life, all is well, in fact, very well with them. Kosotie, who lived a typical life until he was 31, realized that he had to get rid of his asthma, allergy, cold hands, skin problems, constipation, etc., he simply had to change his lifestyle! Prescribed drugs didn't help any more, so he decided to become a vegetarian. After a year, his health seemed to improve, although there were still problems. Being a curious person, he turned to veganism, mostly because of ethical reasons, as well as for the sake of his health. A year later he didn't notice any big improvements, and his health problems continued, and he discovered raw foods. He became a raw food vegan and continued with this diet for over two years. It seemed to help him more than the previous diet, and he became very interested in nutrition and body-ecology. One day he stumbled upon a lecture on fruitarianism, and with that additional information has continued to live for the last two years. Now he has no asthma, no allergies, no skin problems, no constipation, and says he feels better than ever. He continues to get rid of his old toxins, or " old sins " as he puts it. He says to create health you have to give the body what it was designed for. Being clean on the inside as well as the outside is the proper way to do it. He adds that everything in the human body points out that we are pure fruitarians. It takes millions of years for us to evolve to changes in our environment, and we haven't done that yet. Cooked food has only been around for some ten or twenty thousand years what did we eat before that time? Raw food. Kosotie has started a fruitarian organization in Sweden, with about 25 members, and it is growing. He also works out with weightlifting and yoga. Marie and Kosotie met four years ago. Marie had been living a rather " normal " life, trying vegetarian foods for some time, but had made no commitment to that diet until she met Kosotie. Love can move mountains, or at least it can change a person! Today she lives better than ever on a vegan diet, 90% raw foods and some daily cooked simple food for lunch and she is moving steadily towards an " all raw " diet. So far, so good, but that's not the end of this story. No. Their pretty baby Alve is a subject all by himself. His health is excellent. He is very secure, in harmony with life, stronger than most babies in the whole of Sweden! He's been breast fed since birth and still gets this " goodie " . At six months' age he was started on fruit juice, slowly adding more and more to his diet. Today he eats a banana, four plums plus one or two figs and some breast milk! Well, he is pure energy. And what about illnesses? What about them? He hasn't had any, other than a few minor colds, or detoxification, as they say. He hasn't been given any vaccinations, since his parents don't believe in poisoning someone to good health, especially not since reading about " natural hygiene " . Alve has been carried in a babysling right from birth, either on his stomach or his back this has given him an easy, safe and loving start in life as well as satisfaction for the parents. Alve is strong as a monkey and is not afraid of people, as is sometimes the case with other " normal " children. He seldom cries, doesn't have a " runny " nose... he's just a happy, playful and superhealthy baby. So what's the problem? Well, Kosotie and Marie have no problems, but many of their family have problems with their lifestyle. The local medical establishment doesn't like their lifestyle at all. The doctors say Alve will get serious diseases and become crippled and other nasty problems, so his parents have stopped taking Alve to the doctor. Now it's only Marie's parents who complain about her new lifestyle. Kosotie and Marie have discovered a lot of the health myths that are found in today's society, and welcome any-one who wishes to contact them for advice, friendship, questions or help. They also have big plans to move to Spain and set up a health center, or maybe even a community, but that's a whole other story. They invite everyone to feel free to write them for information. Address: Kosotie Österling, Marie Tyberg, Alve One Tyberg Lundavägen 62 23252 Akarp Sweden Tel: +46 (0) 40 461682 e-mail: Tyling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2000 Report Share Posted July 9, 2000 I just wanted to add my testimony for raw food to this story. My husband and daughter and I lived on all raw for 2 1/2 years from the time our daughter was a toddler until she was in school. At that point, she was curious about what she was seeing the other kids with, and needed to try those things. We took back some cooked foods at that point. Now our daughter is turning 17 this month, and she like Alve, has been one of the healthiest kids of her generation. This is VERY different than the way it was for her father and I who were frequently and seriously sick when we were growing up. We also had trouble with the medical system over it, and when the public health nurse found out that we were feeding our young daughter only raw foods, she insisted that I submit to an " inquisition " under the implied threat that we might have her taken from us otherwise. It was one of the scariest times of my life, but thankfully, we passed their scrutiny. It took about 3 weeks of presenting all my dietary records and enduring hours of questions about how and why I thought raw food was acceptable as a diet. Deborah A Young Couple's Experience from EVU News, Issue 3 /1998 Kosotie and Marie are a young couple who live in the south of Sweden, in a small town called Akarp. Kosotie is 38, and Marie is 34 years old, and they have a 16-month-old boy, Alve. They live a good and happy life, all is well, in fact, very well with them. Kosotie, who lived a typical life until he was 31, realized that he had to get rid of his asthma, allergy, cold hands, skin problems, constipation, etc., he simply had to change his lifestyle! Prescribed drugs didn't help any more, so he decided to become a vegetarian. After a year, his health seemed to improve, although there were still problems. Being a curious person, he turned to veganism, mostly because of ethical reasons, as well as for the sake of his health. A year later he didn't notice any big improvements, and his health problems continued, and he discovered raw foods. He became a raw food vegan and continued with this diet for over two years. It seemed to help him more than the previous diet, and he became very interested in nutrition and body-ecology. One day he stumbled upon a lecture on fruitarianism, and with that additional information has continued to live for the last two years. Now he has no asthma, no allergies, no skin problems, no constipation, and says he feels better than ever. He continues to get rid of his old toxins, or " old sins " as he puts it. He says to create health you have to give the body what it was designed for. Being clean on the inside as well as the outside is the proper way to do it. He adds that everything in the human body points out that we are pure fruitarians. It takes millions of years for us to evolve to changes in our environment, and we haven't done that yet. Cooked food has only been around for some ten or twenty thousand years what did we eat before that time? Raw food. Kosotie has started a fruitarian organization in Sweden, with about 25 members, and it is growing. He also works out with weightlifting and yoga. Marie and Kosotie met four years ago. Marie had been living a rather " normal " life, trying vegetarian foods for some time, but had made no commitment to that diet until she met Kosotie. Love can move mountains, or at least it can change a person! Today she lives better than ever on a vegan diet, 90% raw foods and some daily cooked simple food for lunch and she is moving steadily towards an " all raw " diet. So far, so good, but that's not the end of this story. No. Their pretty baby Alve is a subject all by himself. His health is excellent. He is very secure, in harmony with life, stronger than most babies in the whole of Sweden! He's been breast fed since birth and still gets this " goodie " . At six months' age he was started on fruit juice, slowly adding more and more to his diet. Today he eats a banana, four plums plus one or two figs and some breast milk! Well, he is pure energy. And what about illnesses? What about them? He hasn't had any, other than a few minor colds, or detoxification, as they say. He hasn't been given any vaccinations, since his parents don't believe in poisoning someone to good health, especially not since reading about " natural hygiene " . Alve has been carried in a babysling right from birth, either on his stomach or his back this has given him an easy, safe and loving start in life as well as satisfaction for the parents. Alve is strong as a monkey and is not afraid of people, as is sometimes the case with other " normal " children. He seldom cries, doesn't have a " runny " nose... he's just a happy, playful and superhealthy baby. So what's the problem? Well, Kosotie and Marie have no problems, but many of their family have problems with their lifestyle. The local medical establishment doesn't like their lifestyle at all. The doctors say Alve will get serious diseases and become crippled and other nasty problems, so his parents have stopped taking Alve to the doctor. Now it's only Marie's parents who complain about her new lifestyle. Kosotie and Marie have discovered a lot of the health myths that are found in today's society, and welcome any-one who wishes to contact them for advice, friendship, questions or help. They also have big plans to move to Spain and set up a health center, or maybe even a community, but that's a whole other story. They invite everyone to feel free to write them for information. Address: Kosotie Österling, Marie Tyberg, Alve One Tyberg Lundavägen 62 23252 Akarp Sweden Tel: +46 (0) 40 461682 e-mail: Tyling ---------- ---------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 Just for the sake of balance, one might also want to take a look at www.beyondveg.com. The site appears to have some articles on the whole raw-food issue. It seems to be somewhat biased against raw-food diets and veganism and such, but still maybe worth taking a look at. Clark www.VeganVoice.com On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Deborah Pageau wrote: > I just wanted to add my testimony for raw food to this story. My [cut...] > scrutiny. It took about 3 weeks of presenting all my dietary records > and enduring hours of questions about how and why I thought raw food > was acceptable as a diet. > Deborah > > A Young Couple's Experience > from EVU News, Issue 3 /1998 > > Kosotie and Marie are a young couple who live in the south of Sweden, in a > small town called > Akarp. Kosotie is 38, and Marie is 34 years old, and they have a > 16-month-old boy, Alve. [cut...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 Hi Clark; I had a look at the site you recommended beyondveg. I agree with the one author who suggested that raw food diet may be best suited to the tropics. I found that in the 2 1/2 years that my family and I ate all raw, our body temperatures were so much lower that we were cold all the time in our cool, damp long winters on the west coast of Canada. The reality of living where we do seems to require some internal heating! I think there are 2 common sources of " failure to thrive " (FTT) on vegan diet: one lack of B12. I have the impression that many people eating vegan or vegetarian diets are not aware of the need to take, or not taking enough B12. It is often stated that " some vegans seem to need it " , and I think this leads many to think that it's " not me " . My impression is that B12 becomes a issue for all people as they age, that much more so for vegans and/or vegetarians. I think the other common source of FTT is intolerance to wheat products and/or gluten, a protein found in abundance in wheat and its relatives (spelt, kamut, tricicale, rye, barley). Years ago, it was thought to be quite rare, and the statistics were 1 in 2,000 people affected by it. Gradually the numbers have climbed to 1 in 500, then 1 in 250. At the moment, the numbers are 1 in 150 people having obvious symptoms of gluten intolerance, with 2 to 4 more having the intolerance without showing obvious symptoms. www.celiac.com Over time, if the intolerance is not identified, it can increase and cause of many of the typical FTT problems with a vegan or vegetarian diet. Anyone, even people who eat meat, can be affected by gluten intolerance, but it can be that much more critical an issue for vegans or vegetarians who replace animal products with gluten-loaded food items such as imitation " meats " based on gluten, certain vegetarian burgers, breads and pastas. I think intolerance to gluten may be one reason why so many people improve in health when they eat all raw, because raw diets rarely contain any gluten. I have heard very little about people eating a gluten-free vegan diet as I do, so I think this is an area that requires further investigation, especially when " failure to thrive " becomes an issue. I also had a look at VeganVoice. Congratulations on your new site Clark... it is looking good! Deborah Pageau B.Sc. Just for the sake of balance, one might also want to take a look at www.beyondveg.com. The site appears to have some articles on the whole raw-food issue. It seems to be somewhat biased against raw-food diets and veganism and such, but still maybe worth taking a look at. Clark www.VeganVoice.com On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Deborah Pageau wrote: > I just wanted to add my testimony for raw food to this story. My [cut...] > scrutiny. It took about 3 weeks of presenting all my dietary records > and enduring hours of questions about how and why I thought raw food > was acceptable as a diet. > Deborah > > A Young Couple's Experience > from EVU News, Issue 3 /1998 > > Kosotie and Marie are a young couple who live in the south of Sweden, in a > small town called > Akarp. Kosotie is 38, and Marie is 34 years old, and they have a > 16-month-old boy, Alve. [cut...] ---------- ---------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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