Guest guest Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 Hello all. This is my first post to this list--I just joined a few days ago. I've been following the discussion, basically philosphical, that comes up frequently in the vegetarian discourse--whether humans have some sort of inherent " superiority " to non-human animals, and whether that justifies our inflicting pain on and killing them. Just wanted to add my personal views to the mix. As far as animal rights are concerned, to me, the issue is not so much the actual *killing* of animals, but rather, their treatment in captivity as they are raised. What I object to about the meat industry is that the animals, from their birth, live basically in constant agonizing pain, in tiny, filthy pens, without access to good food, sunlight, or exercise, and suffer many diseases by the time they are slaughtered. Yes, they are animals, and I personally feel somewhat less sense of brotherhood with animals than I do with people of my own species, but this level of suffering is where I draw the line. On the other hand, in what I see as a predator-prey relationship, for example, the relationship of the American Indians with the buffalo, I have far less objection to. The animals were allowed to live their lives in freedom, eating the food they needed, etc, and the Indians realized that they relied on the buffalo for survival. They respected the population, killing only what they needed, and using every part of the animal. This relationship I see as basically analagous to an animal-animal predator-prey relationship: foxes kill rabbits, that's what they do. But the rabbits still live healthy, vigorous lives, they just have to watch out for foxes. It's not an issue of the inherent " superiority " of the fox giving it a " right " to kill the rabbit, just as that's not the issue between Indians and buffalo. There's a basic balance which is of course NOT present in our modern relationship with livestock. I realize that some people don't agree, and view the killing of any animal being as immoral. I recognize and understand this view, but as far as my own personal views, to me it's the treatment of the animals that I object to moreso than the killing. Clark www.VeganVoice.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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