Guest guest Posted July 16, 2000 Report Share Posted July 16, 2000 I Love Soy Dream (Vanilla) and I always get the enriched. I especially love using it to make Chai. Put 1/2 Soy Dream (Vanilla) in a coffee cup and fill the rest of the cup with Chai (comes in a box at some grocery stores, like Krogers, and almost always at health food stores). Stick it in the microwave for a couple of minutes and if you like cappuccino's and lattes, you'll never want plain old coffee again! Sherry - <srikanthk Sunday, July 16, 2000 1:37 AM Re: B-12 source (was Health Status of Vegans) > If you enjoy drinking Soy Milk, you could try buying *enriched* Soy > Dream which is a pretty good source of vitamin B-12. Imagine Foods is > the company that makes " Soy Dream " . It is important that you look for > the " enriched " label. The non-enriched ones have either very little or > no B12. > > Among the enriched brands, I have come across " original enriched " > and " vanilla enriched " . Both of them have 50 % Vitamin B12 (whole > milk, just for comparison has 15 % B12). I take Soy Dream with > cereals, tea and coffee. > > Imagine foods web-page: > > http://www.imaginefoods.com/ > > Srikanth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2000 Report Share Posted July 16, 2000 If you enjoy drinking Soy Milk, you could try buying *enriched* Soy Dream which is a pretty good source of vitamin B-12. Imagine Foods is the company that makes " Soy Dream " . It is important that you look for the " enriched " label. The non-enriched ones have either very little or no B12. Among the enriched brands, I have come across " original enriched " and " vanilla enriched " . Both of them have 50 % Vitamin B12 (whole milk, just for comparison has 15 % B12). I take Soy Dream with cereals, tea and coffee. Imagine foods web-page: http://www.imaginefoods.com/ Srikanth , " Deborah Pageau " <Deborah_Pageau@s...> wrote: > > Anji B reported from the Vegetarian congress in Toronto on Prof. Claus Leitzman from Germany saying " Vitamin B12 was also extremely low. I think it was something like 7% of the RDA. However, the RDA's for B12 tend to vary. For example in Germany the RDA is 3mcg, US 2mcg, and WHO (World Health Organization) about 1mcg. Claus mentioned an " expert " on B12 named Victor Herbert, who recommends 0.5mcg/day. Also, even though intake of B12 was low, the blood levels were in the normal range and there was no evidence of any kind of deficiency whatsoever. So, best not to get all panicky about things, I say. " > I agree that there are better uses of our energy than getting all panicky! I think it is best for us to consider available facts and existing gaps in our knowledge, and be very thoughtful in our decisions. I think it is only sensible to take the B12 issue seriously. > My understanding is that a blood level within the normal range can indicate that all is well, though it can also be misleading. It has been shown by analysing B12 metabolic indicators, that some people with " normal " blood levels may require a higher intake to maintain optimal health. > Also, waiting for symptoms before becoming pro-active about B12 is folly. By the time symptoms have become apparent, deep damage may have been done that may only be partly reversible with supplementation. > As I studied existing research on the matter, I came to the conclusion that B12 is far more than a vegan issue. If vegans sometimes feel singled out and picked on about B12, that is understandable. At the same time, by having a look at how many risk groups there are, it seems to me that there may be more people who can benefit from supplementation of B12 than otherwise! > Also, I found by studying the research that B12 status is not a fixed thing, even when the diet is consistent. It tends to change with age and health conditions. > One factor that we all have in common is aging, which influences B12 need in meat-eaters as well as vegans. It has been shown that people (meat-eaters and vegans alike) who have thrived on little or even no intake for many years, can develop a need for large dose B12 supplemental intake with aging. I felt shocked when I found out how early aging can can come into play. The medical community is suggesting that everyone 51 and over be monitored for B12 deficiency problems which are considered relatively common for that age group. As this is the official age for concern to begin, I think we can assume that some people may come to this point of passage earlier than others. I seemed to come to it a couple of years ago. I'm 45. > My conclusion on the matter is that as eating meat doesn't guarantee us the one nutrient that a plant diet is lacking, I think it makes even more sense than ever to abandon it in favour of the B12 supplement... that we might easily end up having to take anyway! Fortunately, large dose B12 therapy has been found to be quite safe, so it can be used on a preventative basis rather than waiting for symptoms. > Did Leitzman talk about the source of B12 in the vegan diet that provided typically 7% of the RDA? I would wonder what he had noted as the source, as I believe it is now accepted that there is no active B12 available in an unsupplemented vegan diet. > Deborah > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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