Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 Robin Murphy wrote: > Senator Voinovich can be reached at > senator_voinovich Let's all send Mr. Voinovich a little letter. I wrote him the following message: PLEASE SAVE ROBBY AND STOP THE USELESS KILLING OF RETIRED MILITARY ANIMALS. These animals have worked hard to protect humans, we should honor them by retiring them to a good home, not sentencing them to death. Robby has someone who wants to adopt him, please be kind and let this person adopt Robby. It is the right thing to do. Thanks, Tiffany Trader San Diego, CA 92103 > This website has a variety of contacts at the Marine Corps, but I couln't > find a Capt. Fitzharris? Maybe we could send to someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 I turned up the contact name for the marine in charge of the Marine K-9 unit, Master Gunnery Sergeant William Childress @ 703-614-4177. The webmaster of the Marine website, Gy Foster, sent me this information upon request. Unfortunately, it is a phone number rather than an email. If someone in the local area were to phone and get Childress's email, than we could all contact him. Anyone? I agree with you about each of us personally sending Senator Voinovich a letter, Tiffany. I did so too. I think individual letters tend to have more impact than everyone just signing a petition anyway. I also did some research on K-9 units. I talked to some K-9 trainers and handlers. They said that K-9 officers are considered a security risk in retirement, because the dog's skills can be used for the purposes of crime once the dog is not busy in the line of duty, if the dog were to fall into the " wrong " hands. I think personally, that this is a shallow concern because if the handler has been trusted to work the dog and be with him essentially 24 hours per day for the past 11 years, I figure he can probably be trusted to do what is needed to protect the dog and keep it under control in retirement. The one K-9 handler I talked to about this said that he knew that the American military policy of killing working dogs when they retire, but he said that they are the only institution that does so. He said that all other services (policy, security services, etc) that use K-9 officers retire the dogs into the care of their life-long handlers. I figure the military can do whatever these other services do to ensure security with retired dogs and their handlers. On the other hand, he pointed out that that particular breed of dog probably only has about 3 years of life left, and probably less than that in good health. He was of the opinion that it is a kindness to the dog to kill him before he has to suffer the humiliations and incapacities of physical degeneration such as lose of control of the bowels and/or bladder, blindness, arthritis, etc., not to mention not being able to be with the handler 24/7 in the line of duty. He said that he thinks it is being sentimental to the point of cruelty to allow a dog to continue when it is in chronic pain and unable to perform his activities as he always did. This is a point that I feel some conflict about personally. Personally, I favour allowing an animal, human or otherwise, to live out their natural life no matter what their health. I see it as just all part of their experience. I think much of what older animals (including humans) suffer is because of a life time of unhealthy feeding habits. Dogs typically suffer the same ill health as humans in their senior years who have lived on animal products all their lives. Getting people to feed their dogs vegetarian when they won't even feed themselves vegetarian can be a challenge, but it is do-able. With the right approach to the humans though, it can happen. I understand this is what the dogs need to enjoy a long life of good health, with a very short and minimally uncomfortable decline at the end. I have had my own dog on vegetarian kibble for years. He is looking pretty old now, but still has all the alertness, energy and good humour of his puppy years. Deborah in BC, Canada > Senator Voinovich can be reached at > senator_voinovich Let's all send Mr. Voinovich a little letter. I wrote him the following message: PLEASE SAVE ROBBY AND STOP THE USELESS KILLING OF RETIRED MILITARY ANIMALS. These animals have worked hard to protect humans, we should honor them by retiring them to a good home, not sentencing them to death. Robby has someone who wants to adopt him, please be kind and let this person adopt Robby. It is the right thing to do. Thanks, Tiffany Trader San Diego, CA 92103 > This website has a variety of contacts at the Marine Corps, but I couln't > find a Capt. Fitzharris? Maybe we could send to someone else? ---------- ---------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 When I asked, the webmaster sent me the email address for Master Gunnery Sergeant Willian Childress childresswc So, if anyone hears back from either Childress or the Senator, please let us know what they have to say. I turned up the contact name for the marine in charge of the Marine K-9 unit, Master Gunnery Sergeant William Childress @ 703-614-4177. The webmaster of the Marine website, Gy Foster, sent me this information upon request. Unfortunately, it is a phone number rather than an email. If someone in the local area were to phone and get Childress's email, than we could all contact him. Anyone? I agree with you about each of us personally sending Senator Voinovich a letter, Tiffany. I did so too. I think individual letters tend to have more impact than everyone just signing a petition anyway. I also did some research on K-9 units. I talked to some K-9 trainers and handlers. They said that K-9 officers are considered a security risk in retirement, because the dog's skills can be used for the purposes of crime once the dog is not busy in the line of duty, if the dog were to fall into the " wrong " hands. I think personally, that this is a shallow concern because if the handler has been trusted to work the dog and be with him essentially 24 hours per day for the past 11 years, I figure he can probably be trusted to do what is needed to protect the dog and keep it under control in retirement. The one K-9 handler I talked to about this said that he knew that the American military policy of killing working dogs when they retire, but he said that they are the only institution that does so. He said that all other services (policy, security services, etc) that use K-9 officers retire the dogs into the care of their life-long handlers. I figure the military can do whatever these other services do to ensure security with retired dogs and their handlers. On the other hand, he pointed out that that particular breed of dog probably only has about 3 years of life left, and probably less than that in good health. He was of the opinion that it is a kindness to the dog to kill him before he has to suffer the humiliations and incapacities of physical degeneration such as lose of control of the bowels and/or bladder, blindness, arthritis, etc., not to mention not being able to be with the handler 24/7 in the line of duty. He said that he thinks it is being sentimental to the point of cruelty to allow a dog to continue when it is in chronic pain and unable to perform his activities as he always did. This is a point that I feel some conflict about personally. Personally, I favour allowing an animal, human or otherwise, to live out their natural life no matter what their health. I see it as just all part of their experience. I think much of what older animals (including humans) suffer is because of a life time of unhealthy feeding habits. Dogs typically suffer the same ill health as humans in their senior years who have lived on animal products all their lives. Getting people to feed their dogs vegetarian when they won't even feed themselves vegetarian can be a challenge, but it is do-able. With the right approach to the humans though, it can happen. I understand this is what the dogs need to enjoy a long life of good health, with a very short and minimally uncomfortable decline at the end. I have had my own dog on vegetarian kibble for years. He is looking pretty old now, but still has all the alertness, energy and good humour of his puppy years. Deborah in BC, Canada > Senator Voinovich can be reached at > senator_voinovich Let's all send Mr. Voinovich a little letter. I wrote him the following message: PLEASE SAVE ROBBY AND STOP THE USELESS KILLING OF RETIRED MILITARY ANIMALS. These animals have worked hard to protect humans, we should honor them by retiring them to a good home, not sentencing them to death. Robby has someone who wants to adopt him, please be kind and let this person adopt Robby. It is the right thing to do. Thanks, Tiffany Trader San Diego, CA 92103 > This website has a variety of contacts at the Marine Corps, but I couln't > find a Capt. Fitzharris? Maybe we could send to someone else? ---------- ---------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Hi all; I got the following response to my email to the Marine Corp about Robby, the retiring K-9 officer. It seems like a valid and reliable response to me. It reminds me of how important it can be to check out the details of a claim before acting upon it. So many things reported in the paper, the source of the original story, are exaggerated or simply plain wrong, as it seems was the case with this story. In any case, I think it was good to follow up on it, and make our feelings known. Deborah Thank you all for your concerns about, Robby, the Military Working Dog at Quantico. The article in the Dayton Daily News and the inpouring of e-mails was of some surprise to us here. To find the answers to your concerns, we contacted Lackland, Air Force Base where the Department of Defense policies on Military Working Dogs are formulated and practiced. Lackland AFB also houses the training facility for all MWD's and their handlers. Below, I have attached the response from the Department of Defense personnel at Lackland AFB. I'd like to emphasize that in all cases, regardless of whether at home station or after relocation to Lackland AFB, MWDs are not euthanized unless it is the ONLY alternative to ending pain and suffering. Again, thank you for your concerns. Captain Tracey Poirier Community Relations Officer Dear Concerned Citizen: This responds to your inquiry on behalf of the " Save Robby " campaign. Military Working Dogs (MWD) have always made a significant contribution to the Department of Defense (DoD) and will continue to play a vital role in our day-to-day military operations. Within the DoD, MWDs are not euthanized solely because of age or the fact they can no longer meet operational requirements. Instead they are reassigned to Lackland AFB (341st MWD Training Squadron) and are used to assist in the training of new handlers. These dogs live out the rest of their lives in a quality environment with the same care received at their unit of assignment. Although the DoD MWD program is somewhat similar to law enforcement canine programs, there are unique military requirements which differ significantly. A notable difference is that all MWDs are centrally kenneled at each installation and lack " socialization " qualities of canines that live with their handlers. In addition, all MWDs remain under constant handler supervision when not kenneled. As a result of these differences and in an effort to ensure public safety, DoD has a long-standing policy of not allowing handlers to adopt MWDs trained in aggression. It is, however, policy to allow MWD handlers, who can show the ability to provide humane treatment and proper long term care, to adopt canine veterans not trained in aggression. The MWD in question, Robby W005, is an eight-year-old " patrol/detector " dog. The " patrol " identifies that Robby is trained in aggression. Robby is currently being treated for arthritis by the attending veterinarian and is on limited duty utilizing strictly his detection capabilities. Robby will be worked in this capacity until all measures to resolve his condition have been exhausted, at which time the feasibility of reassigning him to assist in training handlers at Lackland AFB will be considered. We trust you will find this information helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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