Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 Hello everyone! I've been catching up on all the e-mails and I started thinking about this whole Jane Godall - yoghurt ad thing. Don't mind my train of thoughts, they wander all over the place, but I will try to stay on track. So, regarding her decision to advertise for a yoghurt company, it sure is disappointing, eh? It is a shame that she feels the need to do the ad thing and endorse a non vegan product, but really, does that mean we need to dis her and dismiss what she does contribute? She has done more for animals than alot of us have ever done, and maybe she needs to be informed. To say that " Any person who endorses " dairy " is not to be trusted in the vegan community " is a pretty harsh. To me it seems really hard lined and dogmatic. Honestly, I think that we all need to unite on the issues and inform the uninformed. I think if she knew (what goes into the production), she may very well feel differently about it... If people have an honest desire to help prevent the cruelty to animals and live a peaceful lifestyle, veganism will ring true to them once they are informed of the situations (such as with the dairy industry). I do have vegetarian friends who still eat dairy, and I dont get it. I also know a woman who has a vegan diet but isnt a vegan because she eats yoghurt. I don't get that either, but really, its not my life, its not for me to judge, but perhaps I can mention a few things here and there, without judgement, if they want to know. They do alot environmentally, and contribute in alot of other ways. Some of my meat eating friends are even more active doing 'green work " than my vegan friends. I have one friend who fights hunting laws, want to stop slaughterhouse abuses and wants more regulations regarding meat productions...and he eats meat. He is against fur, pro-organic, pro-cycling (anti pollution) and I found out he campaigns for Greenpeace too! He jokes that he might go vegetarian but is not ready (yet). I assumed he was a vegetarian because of his actions and was surprised when he wasn't. He admited that he was being lazy and he seemed to be a little ashamed. What he needs is time, not me shutting him out of my " community " . Should I dismiss his contributions and knowledge because of his cowardly dietary habits and ignorance? I dont think so. I think that after a few conversations and giving him some slack and inviting him into my " vegan community " he and my vegetarian friends may understand. Eventually. I think that we vegans can alienanate others and if we go too far with the preaching and judging. I feel strongly about saying something about this only because I learned my own lesson, when a vegetarian friend really got upset with me and finally told me that all my preaching and " information " was really just annoying and alienating people. She confronted me and eplained that I was making people very uncomfortable (good! I thought!) but also closing their minds to what veganism is. My judgmental attitude turned people off of even finding out about the reasons behind my diet, and unfortunately those people are not about to ask me now. She gave me specific examples of things that I had said (well meaning things at the time) to people that came across as rude, judgemental and dogmatic. Finally I saw what she meant... Its like that annoying smoker that quits smoking and then drives all his / her friends crazy by setting out to make everyone quit like by going on and on about the tobacco industry, their health, etc. As for people who contribute to saving animals but may just be vegetarian or eat honey or may not throw their leather away, (or eat yoghurt) give me a break! What are we the vegan police? To calm myself from spazzing out on the idiocy of others, I try to think about when I first eliminated meat, and then dairy and fianlly all animal products from my diet ( & life)... It was a shock at how they are everywhere and how it’s almost impossible to keep up PERFECTION. This is a good thing to remember when others are less than perfect. Think of how often we ate things that we knew hurt someone. (Think of the last time you ate an animal product) It takes a while to break the denial. I find that we need to all stick together, and inform each other gently of the issues without anger or impatience or intolerance and remember that we are all on the same side of the fence! Thanks to my friends I don't eat sushi anymore. I was calling myself a vegan and still eating sashimi for a while!!!! Thats so ridiculous, but I didnt think it counted and veganism was new to me. It was not until my friends gave me some info about the fishing industry that a light went on...It took me a few more sushi lunches before I finally realised they were right. Its not like Jane has taken up hunting with Ted Nugent! Let's keep it in perspective and try to not overeact. Anyhew, theres my own vegan policing and my 2 cents. Peace, Bliss. ...It aint easy being green... -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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