Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 UK MPs Vote to Ban Hunting With Dogs LONDON, United Kingdom, January 18, 2001 (ENS) - UK members of parliament have voted overwhelmingly to ban hunting with dogs. In the five hour debate prior to last night's free vote, one opposition MP said shooting and fishing could be next. http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan2001/2001L-01-18-10.html -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Instant Portal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 > anji [sMTP:vegan] > > UK MPs Vote to Ban Hunting With Dogs > > LONDON, United Kingdom, > January 18, 2001 (ENS) - UK members of parliament have voted > overwhelmingly to ban hunting with dogs. In the five hour debate prior to > last night's free vote, one opposition MP said shooting and fishing could > be next. > > I don't like to be a dampener, but we should not celebrate too soon - there is still much to be done and many more foxes will, I'm afraid, die before a law comes in, if indeed it ever does. The next stage is that the bill goes for debate and vote to the House of Lords. They are in the main a bunch of scum-sucking, rich, old land-owning farts who revere the old school tie and money far above compassion. They will without doubt reject this bill, ostensibly on the grounds of protecting human freedom of choice, but in reality more because they suck up to the royal family who are amongst the worst wildlife murderers in the land. This is all likely to coincide with the next general election, probably in May, so there will be no time for the act to be forced through during the lifetime of this parliament. This leaves three possibilities. Firstly, the Conservatives will win the election (unlikely) and the bill will automatically be tossed into the bin, because most of them are rich and belong to the masons or some other stick-together-whatever-the-cost-to-others setup. Secondly, Labour will win and will use the Parliament Act to overrride the House of Lords' decision. This is not unlikely, but by no means sure - the Partliament Act has been used very rarely - and at best will take a long time. Certainly we will not see the cessation of hunting with dogs during 2001, whatever happens. Thirdly, Labour will win and will drop the bill - in other words bow to the Lords. This happened the time before last when the bill in question was to lower the age of consent for homosexuals, so is by no means unknown. So don't uncross you fingers yet. The Countryside Alliance (for some reason, often mis-spelt) is a powerful lobby group, who try to confuse the issue by linking bloodsports will all sorts of countryside issues, such as poor public transport and the loss of village facilities, both of which worry people greatly. They have virtually unlimited financial resources, whereas the anti-hunt people are perpetually scratching about for pennies - we are all over-stretched in the money-giving department because we have so many animals and causes to care for. And as we all know, money talks. You may also have heard that Huntingdon Life Sciences came within an hour of bankruptcy at the weekend, before finding a mystery American backer to bail them out. It is strongly rumoured that the government brokered this deal, so 500 animals every day will continue to die pointlessly and painfully thanks to the good old Labour (New Labour, New Life for Animals) government. Our Home Secretary, Jack Straw, was even on the BBC referring to " those awful Animals Rights people " , how's that for impartiality? Wanker. On the positive side, the HLS situation has opened up the whole Animal Rights and vivisection debate to the public. Channel 4 screened a 2-part programme called The Rise and Rise of Animal Rights over the weekend. Shame it was so biased - " the world will be overrrun with pigeons and rats if the Animal Rights activists have their way " was one gem from the narrator. They also wheeled out (sorry about the pun) one HLS shareholder in a wheelchair, to talk about how animal experimentation has nearly found a cure for his condition. Well bully, personally I'd like to know how many lives he feels justified in sacrificing to save his own. Is ten mice enough? A hundred? Or a million, how's that? If a million mice died in agony and still no cure, does he think a halt should be called? I suspect not. Mankind's arrogance knows no bounds and is based on the premise that " might is right " . I am more powerful than a rabbit therefore it is my right to do to it whatever I choose. Excuse me while I vomit. Anyway, sorry to ramble on, it's been a very heavy week, very emotional and ultimately very disappointing. We had a real chance to finish HLS off for good but I guess we'll have to wait a little longer. I just needed to get a lot of this off my chest, so thanks for listening. On Saturday, our local group protested outside our local NatWest bank - the bank that has been keeping HLS in business for the last year or so. We got a mixed reaction fro mthe public, but at least we raised awareness and felt that we were actually doing something. I was called a silly bitch by a crone in a fur coat, for advising her that there really was no excuse. She looked likely to die soon and good riddance. It's not much fun, caring, is it? Cheers! Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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