Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 In a message dated 3/13/2001 12:52:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, jst writes: > I hope this email didn't sound to academic. I really just am tired of > hearing the east is cruel when I witness so much cruelty in the west (i.e. > barbaric bombing in Iraq, McDonalds mass slaughter of animals). > That's a fantastic point Jason and I appreciate reading your outlook on this. I agree wholeheartedly. Christy ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. - Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 >by IAN GALLAGHER, Mail on Sunday >femail.co.uk - 13th March 2001 > >Such cruelty - inconceivable in the West - is becoming increasingly >commonplace in China. To many people here, keeping cats as cherished >pets is an act of folly. The reference of " such cruelty " is pointing to China and I find this utterly racist. " Inconceivable in the West. " Nothing could be further from the truth. No other power, specifically the US, has been able to exert as much mass destruction and cruelty upon the human animal, other animals, and the environment. So I think when someone sympathetic to cats makes a comparison between east and west then I think it's important to keep the statement on the cat and leave the generalization about eastern culture right out of it. There is enought anti-Chinese sentiment in the West that perpetuating the idea that " such cruelty " is commonplace in China is perpetuating a link between chinese culture and cruelty. This is the mythical part of the statement. (even thought the cat part is true.) I say this, not because I don't think the comment about the cat was important. In fact, the oppression of the cat and the oppression of animals should be opposed and eliminated but I believe we must fight all forms of oppression including racism, (hetero)-sexism, ableism, anti-semitism in order to have a just society. Their will not exist true animal liberation while humans oppress eachother. It is likely that the open mind that challenges our dominant relationship to animals will challenge other power imbalances in our society (like West over the Rest). I hope this email didn't sound to academic. I really just am tired of hearing the east is cruel when I witness so much cruelty in the west (i.e. barbaric bombing in Iraq, McDonalds mass slaughter of animals). Jason. Jay's Gourmet Your Home Delivery Health Program www.jaysgourmet.com 416-910-JAYS 416-910-5297 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 Jason makes and excellent point and I definitely agree. The conditions the author describes sound just about like any american factory farm. I find it amazing that a person could be so blind as to say such cruelty is " inconceivable in the West. " It is only because cats have arbitrarily been chosen to be pets in the west that they receive special treatment. Cows, pigs and chickens are just as able as cats to experience suffering. Yet when people are through being outraged about horrors perpetrated by those " barbarians " in China, they bite into a burger. It really gets me. Clark Today, Jason Stevens wrote: > >by IAN GALLAGHER, Mail on Sunday > >femail.co.uk - 13th March 2001 > > > >Such cruelty - inconceivable in the West - is becoming increasingly > >commonplace in China. To many people here, keeping cats as cherished > >pets is an act of folly. > > The reference of " such cruelty " is pointing to China and I find this > utterly racist. " Inconceivable in the West. " Nothing could be further > from the truth. No other power, specifically the US, has been able to > exert as much mass destruction and cruelty upon the human animal, other > animals, and the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 > ---------- > Jason Stevens[sMTP:jst] > Reply > 13 March 2001 21:00 > > all forms of oppression > > > >by IAN GALLAGHER, Mail on Sunday > >femail.co.uk - 13th March 2001 > > > >Such cruelty - inconceivable in the West - is becoming increasingly > >commonplace in China. To many people here, keeping cats as cherished > >pets is an act of folly. > > > The reference of " such cruelty " is pointing to China and I find this > utterly racist. " Inconceivable in the West. " Nothing could be further > from the truth. > > I would assume that what the author meant was that it is inconceivable in the west that crates of cats would be found in marketplaces. I personally would applaud the investigative journalism that highlights this barbarism and (with luck) outrages enough people that maybe, just maybe, something might be done to stop it. I am no greater a fan of racism than anyone else - I am the only person who protests at work when people refer to coons and chinkies - but frankly I think the Chinese nation will survive one sentence in the Mail on Sunday. Please do not miss the point of the article because that one sentence miffed you. Cathy ps I agree totally with the condemnation of the hypocrisy that allows people to coo over a kitten whilst jabbing a fork into a hunk of dead calf. You should just see the farmer's wife on breakfast tv this morning, crying because they've killed her foot & mouth infected cows and she " knew them all by name " . Presumably she had intended to accompany them to the abbatoir personally in a year or two, so she could comfort them whilst their throats were being sliced open and their unborn calves were dying inside them. Does that make me a " farmist " if so, then I plead guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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