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It seems like there are a lot of teenage pregnant mothers with unwanted

children. All I have to say to that is, " DON'T HAVE SEX! " If you're not ready

for the responsibility, don't do it. But people are so obsessed with enjoying

themselves that they lose sight of the big picture. Because of their selfishness

and recklessness, they end up taking the life of a child because they're not

" ready " . But, of course, they were ready to have sex. I'm only speaking in the

case of two willing partners (not of rape).

Why can't people just use their intelligence? Why can't people see the

consequences of their idiocies? Is it my imagination or is the cause of most

suffering because of our vanity and selfishness?

Theresa

 

 

 

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Telling Teenagers NOT TO HAVE SEX?? Yeah, like, that's gonna work really

well. Telling teenagers not to have sex. Yeah, right.

Some really FUNNY stats: US is one of the few civilized countries in the

world that likes to preach abstinence only, yet rates of teen pregnancy are

ICREDIBLY high, especially compared to nordic countries like sweden, where

they aren't afraid to talk to teens about anything, including anal sex, oral

sex, sexual preference yadda yadda. Their message is: " Have sex. wait for

the right person and use a condom " , whereas in the US the message is: " don't

have sex. sex is irresponsible. sex is bad. wait til you're married " . Funny

thing is, sweden has the LOWEST rates of teen pregnancy and HIV/AIDS in the

ENTIRE WORLD. *beep* Reality check alert.

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Having lived in Sweden for a long period of time, I can tell you that there

are quite a few factors at play besides the nature of the 'sex-talk' that

parents give their children. Having said that, there is no question that

teenagers are by nature rebellious and inquisitive; that does not absolve

parents of the responsibility to provide guidance. A difficult task does not

justify surrender.

Peace and Blessings, Love and Light,

Robyn Unicorn Thunderchild.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:11 AM

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> Telling Teenagers NOT TO HAVE SEX?? Yeah, like, that's gonna work really

> well. Telling teenagers not to have sex. Yeah, right.

> Some really FUNNY stats: US is one of the few civilized countries in the

> world that likes to preach abstinence only, yet rates of teen pregnancy

are

> ICREDIBLY high, especially compared to nordic countries like sweden, where

> they aren't afraid to talk to teens about anything, including anal sex,

oral

> sex, sexual preference yadda yadda. Their message is: " Have sex. wait for

> the right person and use a condom " , whereas in the US the message is:

" don't

> have sex. sex is irresponsible. sex is bad. wait til you're married " .

Funny

> thing is, sweden has the LOWEST rates of teen pregnancy and HIV/AIDS in

the

> ENTIRE WORLD. *beep* Reality check alert.

> -Belle

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I ask that this topic desist if it has nothing to do with veganism or

animal rights and it seems to have headed that way. It is only fair to

the other 135 or so people on the list who didn't sign up to debate

abortion.

 

Thanks for everyone's understanding.

 

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> I will make this my last statement on the subject on this list, since 1) it

> seems we are being asked to desist

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It actually has EVERYTHING to do with veganism and animal rights, as I have

explained very clearly. I can't imagine how anyone could have read my

comments and failed to understand that. But then, we hear what we want to

hear. As I said, I have made my last statement out of respect for your

request. I may or may not continue my subscription to this list; it is

questionable whether there is value in a forum which shrinks from the most

difficult- and most pertinent- issues before us. As the saying goes, " The

moment you turn your back, you are involved. " Respect for life is the very

cornerstone of veganism and animal rights. Take that away, and we are

rendered impotent, our arguments specious.

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anji <anji

 

Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:52 AM

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> I ask that this topic desist if it has nothing to do with veganism or

> animal rights and it seems to have headed that way. It is only fair to

> the other 135 or so people on the list who didn't sign up to debate

> abortion.

>

> Thanks for everyone's understanding.

>

> anji

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> > I will make this my last statement on the subject on this list, since 1)

it

> > seems we are being asked to desist

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> Un: -

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Telling teenagers not to have sex...it's just common sense. But unfortunately

most people are to short-sighted and weak to do the right thing. And because of

that babies are and will continue to die. I'm not living in some sort of world

of denial. I know that the rates are high...I think you misunderstood what I

said.

theresa

 

 

 

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