Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/ncbs_vegan_study.htm Vesanto Melina RD comments: I was called by the BBC to respond to the story " Children 'Harmed' By Vegan Diets " . I am co-author of " Becoming Vegan " , by dietitians Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina, distributed in the UK by Airlift books; www.airlift.co.uk. Lindsay Allen, of the US Agricultural Research Service had done a study in which providing animal products such as butter, cheese, milk, and meat improved the health and growth of impoverished and undernourished Kenyan children. Professor Allen failed to recognize that an assortment of plant foods that were nutrient rich and higher in protein and calories would have helped too. The findings from this study are not applicable to vegan children in the developed world. More: <http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/ncbs_vegan_study.htm> Original Message: ----------------- Gerry Morgan gjm Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:23:09 -0700 Re: Children 'harmed' by vegan diets James Hodgskiss wrote: >I seriously think there needs to be another study into why such a flawed >piece of research was carried out in the first place. If people like >eye-openers, then splash the results from that around everywhere. The UK Vegan Society (http://www.vegansociety.com/) has an item on its home page that mentions Professor Lindsay Allen's research, and says that it would be interesting to know who funded it. Does anyone on the list know how we could find the answer to that question? I have written to Professor Allen suggesting that her research does not support her comment about vegan parents, and asking who funded the research. It would be great to see more scientific studies of the vegan diet. Can anyone suggest who might fund one? Or suggest pointers to existing research? The problem is that, just as Prof. Allen's research will be open to criticism if it turns out to be financed by friends of the meat industry, so will " our " research be criticized if funded by vegans. But who else would want to fund it? Gerry Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Excellent! Thank you for finding that, Anji. The relevant footnote to Professor Lindsay Allen's paper reads: " This research was supported by the GL-CRSP though the Office of Agriculture of the United States Agency for International Development under Grant No. PCE-G-00-98-00036-00 to the GL-CRSP. The project was partially supported by the National Cattleman's Beef Association. " Another footnote states that a supplementary publication for the conference at which the paper was presented was sponsored by " Heifer International " . http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/11/3941S Gerry anji wrote: >http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/ncbs_vegan_study.htm > >Vesanto Melina RD comments: > >I was called by the BBC to respond to the story " Children 'Harmed' By Vegan >Diets " . I am co-author of " Becoming Vegan " , by dietitians Brenda Davis and >Vesanto Melina, distributed in the UK by Airlift books; www.airlift.co.uk. > >Lindsay Allen, of the US Agricultural Research Service had done a study in >which providing animal products such as butter, cheese, milk, and meat >improved the health and growth of impoverished and undernourished Kenyan >children. Professor Allen failed to recognize that an assortment of plant >foods that were nutrient rich and higher in protein and calories would have >helped too. The findings from this study are not applicable to vegan >children in the developed world. > >More: ><http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/ncbs_vegan_study.htm> > > > > >Original Message: >----------------- >Gerry Morgan gjm >Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:23:09 -0700 > >Re: Children 'harmed' by vegan diets > > > >James Hodgskiss wrote: > >I seriously think there needs to be another study into why such a flawed > >piece of research was carried out in the first place. If people like > >eye-openers, then splash the results from that around everywhere. > >The UK Vegan Society (http://www.vegansociety.com/) has an item on its home >page that mentions Professor Lindsay Allen's research, and says that it >would be interesting to know who funded it. Does anyone on the list know >how we could find the answer to that question? I have written to Professor >Allen suggesting that her research does not support her comment about vegan >parents, and asking who funded the research. > >It would be great to see more scientific studies of the vegan diet. Can >anyone suggest who might fund one? Or suggest pointers to existing >research? The problem is that, just as Prof. Allen's research will be open >to criticism if it turns out to be financed by friends of the meat >industry, so will " our " research be criticized if funded by vegans. But who >else would want to fund it? > >Gerry > > > > > > > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > >Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 By the way, it would be nice to get a second article setting the facts straight in those news channels that unthinkingly reported this story without questioning its merit. The article in The Independent was written by John von Radowitz, who is the science correspondent of the Press Association (PA). You can write to Mr von Radovitz via the Press Association's contact page, which is here: http://www.pa.press.net/contact_form.php?to=information & page=/index.php And the original article is, of course, here: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=613225 Has anyone seen this article, or a related article, anywhere else? If so, I'd like to write to that news source and point out the facts of the matter (I've already written to the Press Association, the BBC, and The Independent pointing out the weakness of the research and source of funding). Gerry Gerry Morgan wrote: >Excellent! Thank you for finding that, Anji. The relevant footnote to >Professor Lindsay Allen's paper reads: > > " This research was supported by the GL-CRSP though the Office of >Agriculture of the United States Agency for International Development >under Grant No. PCE-G-00-98-00036-00 to the GL-CRSP. The project was >partially supported by the National Cattleman's Beef Association. " > >Another footnote states that a supplementary publication for the >conference at which the paper was presented was sponsored by " Heifer >International " . > >http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/11/3941S > >Gerry > >anji wrote: > >>http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/ncbs_vegan_study.htm >> >>Vesanto Melina RD comments: >> >>I was called by the BBC to respond to the story " Children 'Harmed' By Vegan >>Diets " . I am co-author of " Becoming Vegan " , by dietitians Brenda Davis and >>Vesanto Melina, distributed in the UK by Airlift books; www.airlift.co.uk. >> >>Lindsay Allen, of the US Agricultural Research Service had done a study in >>which providing animal products such as butter, cheese, milk, and meat >>improved the health and growth of impoverished and undernourished Kenyan >>children. Professor Allen failed to recognize that an assortment of plant >>foods that were nutrient rich and higher in protein and calories would have >>helped too. The findings from this study are not applicable to vegan >>children in the developed world. >> >>More: >><http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/ncbs_vegan_study.htm> >> >> >> >> >>Original Message: >>----------------- >>Gerry Morgan gjm >>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:23:09 -0700 >> >>Re: Children 'harmed' by vegan diets >> >> >> >>James Hodgskiss wrote: >> >I seriously think there needs to be another study into why such a flawed >> >piece of research was carried out in the first place. If people like >> >eye-openers, then splash the results from that around everywhere. >> >>The UK Vegan Society (http://www.vegansociety.com/) has an item on its home >>page that mentions Professor Lindsay Allen's research, and says that it >>would be interesting to know who funded it. Does anyone on the list know >>how we could find the answer to that question? I have written to Professor >>Allen suggesting that her research does not support her comment about vegan >>parents, and asking who funded the research. >> >>It would be great to see more scientific studies of the vegan diet. Can >>anyone suggest who might fund one? Or suggest pointers to existing >>research? The problem is that, just as Prof. Allen's research will be open >>to criticism if it turns out to be financed by friends of the meat >>industry, so will " our " research be criticized if funded by vegans. But who >>else would want to fund it? >> >>Gerry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Post message: >> Subscribe: - >> Un: - >> List owner: -owner >> >>Shortcut URL to this page: >> /community/ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Gerry Morgan wrote: >(I've already written to the Press Association, the BBC, and The >Independent pointing out the weakness of the research and source of funding). The Independent published my letter. They published my first letter (of two), which I sent before I knew that the research had been sponsored by the Cattlemen's Association. http://comment.independent.co.uk/letters/story.jsp?story=614856 Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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