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~~ We have enslaved the rest of animal creation and have treated our distant

cousins in fur and feathers so badly that beyond doubt, if they were to

formulate a religion, they would depict the Devil in human form. "

William Ralph Inge~~

 

 

 

> " blue honey " <bluehoney

> Re: strict vegan

 

Andy,

I also mess up and eat some dairy now and then, of course I try not to but I

am not perfect, even though I tell everyone I am. : ) I think the thing is

with the shoes is you don't go out and buy more leather shoes, I have tennis

shoes that were given to me many moons ago but I refuse to go buy more. I

think for me I could not wear the leather coat and only because I have such

a big mouth that everyone I know would say what the heck are you doing

wearing that tortured cow coat..hehe..and then I would have to go into this

two month explanation on it, and besides my kids would have a fit, where as

the shoes they kind of overlook cause they have about two oz of leather.

Not that that is ok but like I said I would never buy. I guess many may

have a problem with this cause that would be like eating meat as long as you

didn't buy it but in my mind its ok and that's all I have to justify it to.

> Nice quote, I like that. Either you are our you aren't....I

> kind of disagree

> with that, both my car and my shoes have leather - I left my high

> paying job

> to get out of the system, and I just can't afford to replace these things

> (yet). I froze all winter last year because I refused to wear my leather

> jacket...but I still screw up and eat animal products by accident

> sometimes.

> To me, someone that is on a strictly vegan diet knows a lot about

> the foods

> that they eat and how the food was made (including the sugar that

> was used).

> Like the egg in that fake bacon, I kind of slip up and overlook things

> sometimes.

 

Well I think in that case we have to give our self some slack, when we (my 7

and 8 year old) became vegans we found this vegan butter if you will, and we

ate it like for a month and then one day I just happened to look at the

package and I saw whey and about died. My kids were so disappointed in

themselves, but I tried to explain that we will try to do our best and it

was a mistake, one of many I am sure we will make but as long as we learn

from it and try not to make the same mistake again.

> There was a month or so when I would only eat fruit and nuts. Mostly

> because little critters get in the way of the big machines, but I read an

> article that said it was confirmed that trees and other plants

> feel anxiety

> and pain! I still have the gut feeling that the article was 100% accurate,

> but a fruit and nut only diet is kind of fruity and nutty here in Dallas

TX

> (where there is a BBQ restaurant every mile).

>

> -andy

 

Well I can understand that cause I live in Tennessee and we have the same

about every 1/2 mile. I am the outsider in my community but if fitting in

means torturing other living things then I don't want to fit in. I feel

guilty even killing a tick but when its stuck to my body sucking my blood

what choice do I have...I guess I can only do the best that I can do and I

try to improve every day. I know I love driving down the highway and

looking at the fields of cows and knowing that I will not be the one who

will have a part in their death, but in the same breath I know they will all

die for those who have not reached my level of compassion...jeez my halo is

shinning bright tonight..hehe

 

Tammy : )

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