Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 Vitamin B-12 is an important concern for vegans. Especially pregnant, lactating or older vegans. Animal protein is the best source for this nutrient, but there are other sources. Tempeh is not the best source for vitamin b-12, and it took me a while to find the article, but here it is http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm#reliable Here is a small quote from it: " Tempeh, miso, and sea vegetables often are reported to have large amounts of vitamin B12. These products, however, are not reliable sources of the vita-min because the amount of vitamin B12 present depends on the type of processing the food undergoes " " The standard method for measuring vitamin B12 in foods measures both active and inactive forms of vitamin B12. The inactive form (also called analogues) actually interferes with normal vita-min B12 absorption and metabolism. Fermented foods and sea vege-tables may contain more inactive than active vitamin B12 " Fortified cereals, supplements, and certain types of yeast are the best vegan-sources for B12. However, if you have a known B-12 deficiency (anemia), a vegan lifestyle is not recommended. Even vegan Dr. Ornish recommends a glass of skim milk (i believe once a week) to prevent damage from a lack of B12. All this info, so little time! Monica >rr-jr > > > Re: Tempeh, Vitamins & amino acids >Mon, 07 May 2001 12:25:05 -0500 > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Thanks for this info, Zack. I will definitely look into more recipes for bean and rice dishes. Rhonda > Recent question and answer about vitamins referred to > a webpage (I have since deleted) that listed Vitamin > B12 with only animal sources. Tempeh is well known as > one of the few vegan sources of this essential > vitamin. > > [Tempeh is in health food stores, or homemade via > gemcult] > > Regarding amino acids, please click to read > vegsource.com, and from soyinfo.com... > " > Legumes are excellent sources of protein. Many legumes > contain nearly as much protein as found in tofu. But > as mentioned in the Benefits of Soy web page, legume > protein is slightly deficient in two amino acids. It > is often recommended to eat a grain dish at the same > meal in order to get a better balance of essential > amino acids. > " > And of course the high fiber of a vegan helps > eliminate heavy metals from the system [i hope!] > Thanks, > Zack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 I suffer from anemia are there different forms though or something?? Is vitamin B12 another name for iron? my iron levels were extremely low last year and my doctor wanted me to start eating red meats again.. however rather than that I took a herbal iron tonic and my iron levels improved.. Since I was a teenager I have suffered from bouts of low iron. About a month ago my iron levels went down again (this is just before I switched to a vegan diet) and I spoke to my natropath and was told to have 3 teaspoons of brewers yeast a day and my iron levels are great again.. and that is while eating vegan.. but then again i don't know what vitamin B12 is it could be something completely different to what I am thinking. http://www.drmcdougall.com/science/anemia.html Check out that web site its by a vegan doctor On 2001.05.08 05:55:30 +1000 Monica Roach wrote: > Vitamin B-12 is an important concern for vegans. Especially pregnant, > lactating or older vegans. > Animal protein is the best source for this nutrient, but there are other > sources. > > Tempeh is not the best source for vitamin b-12, and it took me a while to > > find the article, but here it is > http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm#reliable > > Here is a small quote from it: > " Tempeh, miso, and sea vegetables often are reported to have large > amounts > of vitamin B12. These products, however, are not reliable sources of the > vita-min because the amount of vitamin B12 present depends on the type of > > processing the food undergoes " > " The standard method for measuring vitamin B12 in foods measures both > active > and inactive forms of vitamin B12. The inactive form (also called > analogues) > actually interferes with normal vita-min B12 absorption and metabolism. > Fermented foods and sea vege-tables may contain more inactive than active > > vitamin B12 " > > Fortified cereals, supplements, and certain types of yeast are the best > vegan-sources for B12. However, if you have a known B-12 deficiency > (anemia), a vegan lifestyle is not recommended. Even vegan Dr. Ornish > recommends a glass of skim milk (i believe once a week) to prevent damage > > from a lack of B12. > > All this info, so little time! > Monica > > >rr-jr > > > > > > Re: Tempeh, Vitamins & amino acids > >Mon, 07 May 2001 12:25:05 -0500 > > > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 In a message dated 5/8/2001 1:45:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, netbreeze writes: my iron levels were extremely low last year and my doctor wanted me to start eating red meats again.. however rather than that I took a herbal iron tonic and my iron levels improved.. Nutritional yeast is also a really good source of B12, one serving of it has 130% of the USRDA for b12, it also has 8 grams of protein in one serving. I love nutritional yeast, I think that it has a much better flavor than brewers yeast and it can be used in quite a few recipes. Vegan Vittles has a really good recipe for Southern Fried tofu using Nutritional yeast that my husband, son and I all absolutely love! I also love to mix it with spices and throw it on pasta and olive oil. Sara Colin's Ap Mama A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. Come see us at http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 When I had this problem with a pregnancy, and Sadistic OB GYN was ready to force pills down my throat, Herman Aihara suggested I drink Miso Soup with Wakame in the morning before going in for Dr.'s appointment. It worked like a charm! Rikki-Lee <netbreeze wrote: I suffer from anemia are there different forms though or something?? Isvitamin B12 another name for iron? my iron levels were extremely low lastyear and my doctor wanted me to start eating red meats again.. howeverrather than that I took a herbal iron tonic and my iron levels improved..Since I was a teenager I have suffered from bouts of low iron. About amonth ago my iron levels went down again (this is just before I switched toa vegan diet) and I spoke to my natropath and was told to have 3 teaspoonsof brewers yeast a day and my iron levels are great again.. and that iswhile eating vegan.. but then again i don't know what vitamin B12 is itcould be something completely different to what I am thinking.http://www.drmcdougall.com/science/anemia.htmlCheck out that web site its by a vegan doctor On 2001.05.08 05:55:30 +1000 Monica Roach wrote:> Vitamin B-12 is an important concern for vegans. Especially pregnant, > lactating or older vegans.> Animal protein is the best source for this nutrient, but there are other > sources.> > Tempeh is not the best source for vitamin b-12, and it took me a while to> > find the article, but here it is > http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm#reliable> > Here is a small quote from it:> "Tempeh, miso, and sea vegetables often are reported to have large> amounts > of vitamin B12. These products, however, are not reliable sources of the > vita-min because the amount of vitamin B12 present depends on the type of> > processing the food undergoes "> "The standard method for measuring vitamin B12 in foods measures both> active > and inactive forms of vitamin B12. The inactive form (also called> analogues) > actually interferes with normal vita-min B12 absorption and metabolism. > Fermented foods and sea vege-tables may contain more inactive than active> > vitamin B12"> > Fortified cereals, supplements, and certain types of yeast are the best > vegan-sources for B12. However, if you have a known B-12 deficiency > (anemia), a vegan lifestyle is not recommended. Even vegan Dr. Ornish > recommends a glass of skim milk (i believe once a week) to prevent damage> > from a lack of B12.> > All this info, so little time!> Monica> > >rr-jr > > > > > Re: Tempeh, Vitamins & amino acids> >Mon, 07 May 2001 12:25:05 -0500> >> > _______________> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 In a message dated 5/7/01 3:57:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, the_vw_girl writes: << Fortified cereals, supplements, and certain types of yeast are the best vegan-sources for B12. However, if you have a known B-12 deficiency (anemia), a vegan lifestyle is not recommended. Even vegan Dr. Ornish recommends a glass of skim milk (i believe once a week) to prevent damage from a lack of B12. All this info, so little time! Monica >> Now...that milk doesnt have to come from cows does it? I mean, Silk is fortified with 50% viatmin B12 per glass and is soy milk. Jo-Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 In a message dated 5/8/01 4:45:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, netbreeze writes: << and I spoke to my natropath and was told to have 3 teaspoons of brewers yeast a day and my iron levels are great again.. and that is while eating vegan.. but then again i don't know what vitamin B12 is it could be something completely different to what I am thinking. >> Where do you find brewers yeast? Is it a powder or tablet and is it Vegan? Jo-Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Dr. Ornish recommends regular milk, since it naturally has vitamin B-12. I am assuming because supplements and fortified foods do not generally absorb as well as the real thing. Personally, I have never liked milk, so I never drink it. From the research that I have done, it seems most people do not have to worry about getting enough B-12, even vegetarians (as long as they are taking supplements and drinking fortified foods). Those at a real risk are pregnant and lactating women. If you are low on B-12, you may be fine, but damage could be done to the baby. B-12 is very important in the cellular and nervous system development of the baby. (Many people may disagree with me, but I would rather eat a little fish or eggs while pregnant to make sure that my baby has enough b-12 to develop properly) Also, people with a history of pernicious anemia. It seems that these populations do best with at least a little meat or dairy, whether or not they are taking supplements. And remember that as you grow older, you body will need more B12, and have a harder time processing it. Of course, all people are different, but in general, research points toward a vegan lifestyle being good for most, but not all people. That makes sense to me. One lifestyle cannot be the best for ALL people since we are all different. We all have different weaknesses and strengths. I guess the trick is to figure out what yours are. God Bless Monica - Now...that milk doesnt have to come from cows does it? I mean, Silk is fortified with 50% viatmin B12 per glass and is soy milk. Jo-AnnGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2001 Report Share Posted May 9, 2001 In a message dated 5/8/2001 4:35:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_vw_girl writes: Those at a real risk are pregnant and lactating women. If you are low on B-12, you may be fine, but damage could be done to the baby. B-12 is very important in the cellular and nervous system development of the baby. (Many people may disagree with me, but I would rather eat a little fish or eggs while pregnant to make sure that my baby has enough b-12 to develop properly) I had a totally vegan pregnancy, I did take a vegetarian prenatal but I felt like my diet was healthy enough that I didn't have to make any changes (except for my love for dark chocolate, too much caffeine). I have an extremely healthy 17 month old who is bigger and healthier than his peers, he is in the 95th percentile for growth (probably from all of that yummy breastmilk, which has some b12 in it!). I am lactating also, I still take the prenatals and we are both fine. Sara Colin's Ap Mama A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. Come see us at http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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