Guest guest Posted October 26, 2000 Report Share Posted October 26, 2000 Thanks for the " meat craving " advice. I wish I didn't crave it. I too was raised on lots of meat and I probably do need iron. Just cooking up a crock pot of collards and beans in miso today. That should help. Barbara > > > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:26:19 +0000 > > Digest Number 301 > > contact owner: -owner > Mail list: > Delivered-mailing list > List-Un: - > > no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed > contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list > or anything else. Thank you. > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > ------ > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Versatile hot/spicy/sweet peanut sauce! > " " Jeffkukz " Ward " <ptcwards > 2. Article from a friend > Beth Cangiano <Bethie1480 > 3. Re: Digest Number 300 > " kim bower " <wi1622 > 4. Re: Introduction (liz) > " Pam & Frank Mouton " <PAMMOUTON > 5. Re: Avocado bad for you? > alanzol > 6. Re: re dairy free kid > alanzol > 7. Re: chicken style seitan > alanzol > 8. Re: Holidays > alanzol > 9. Re: instead of lunch meat > alanzol > 10. Re: Article from a friend > " " Jeffkukz " Ward " <ptcwards > 11. Re: Digest Number 299 > Barbara MacCameron <blmgsl > 12. Re: Digest Number 299 > cdipietro > 13. Re: Digest Number 299 > Carrie Nixon <cnixon > 14. RE: Avocado bad for you? > " C.V. " <cynergy > 15. my introduction > phyllidill > 16. Rec; Vegetarian Potato Nut Croquettes > " Dancer^ " <coolcook > 17. Vegetarian, Spinach & Cucumber Spread > " Dancer^ " <coolcook > 18. Rec; Vegetarian, Low-Fat Black Bean & Salsa Salad > " Dancer^ " <coolcook > 19. Re;Introduction(Liz) Pam/Steph > " elizaga " <elizaga > 20. Re: Avocado bad for you? > " elizaga " <elizaga > 21. Another quickie: Spinach, tomato, chickpea pasta! > " " Jeffkukz " Ward " <ptcwards > 22. Re: Another quickie: Spinach, tomato, chickpea pasta! > MooMomTo2 > 23. Avocado myth > MooMomTo2 > 24. Re: Digest Number 299 > " Jayson Irion " <herdaughter > 25. Re: Avocado bad for you? > julianne0001 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:03:39 -0000 > " " Jeffkukz " Ward " <ptcwards > Versatile hot/spicy/sweet peanut sauce! > > If you like the flavor of peanuts, try this. It's uses are only > limited by your imagination. Like most of my recipes, the > measurements are a beginning point; you'll find it hard to ruin this > sauce! Most ingredients can be found in your local supermarket. > > INGREDIENTS........... > 1 cup of clear vegetable stock > 1/2-3/4 cup peanut butter (I've found the cheaper brands better than > the more expensive " natural " brands for texture/blending > 1/4 cup rice vinegar (for more tang, use unfiltered natural apple > cider vinegar) > 1/4 cup tamari soy sauce or teriyaki sauce (for sweeter mellower > taste) or split a little of both > 1 tbsp ground ginger root (it's gotta be FRESH the dry stuff is no > good!) > 1-2 cloves fresh garlic > 1-2 drops of liquid stevia (optional, for a sweeter flavor) > 1 tsp chili powder > A few shakes of hot sauce (I find Tabasco's Habanero the best because > it imparts a more HOT/SWEET flavor > DIRECTIONS........... > This is the hard part....dump entire contents of ingredients into a > blender and liquify well. pour into a sauce pan and heat carefully, > being careful NOT TO BOIL! Mixture will thicken with heating and you > may add more vegetable stock or water to thin. Heating > does " something " to the mixture making it more aromatic and flavorful. > USES........... > Use as a dipping sauce for pita bread or pour over your favorite > pasta and add in some steamed veggies for a one-course meal. It also > makes an excellent sauce to dip raw veggies or spring rolls into. > Caution, this mixture can be habit-forming! This recipe, more or > less, is my own invention on a common variation. Any questions?? > Just ask me. Jeffkukz ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > 25 Oct 2000 10:17:06 -0000 > Beth Cangiano <Bethie1480 > Article from a friend > > > You have been emailed an article by your friend, > Beth Cangiano, who said: > " Thought this was a great article! Remember me-I am the one that LOVES PEANUT > BUTTER! So this is a good article! " > > Visit Themestream at http://www.themestream.com/ to see more > articles on this subject, or over a thousand other subjects. > To quick- to the Cooking for a Family category, simply reply > to this email to start getting updates delivered to you daily. > The reply can be empty. Thank you! > > > Article Follows > ------- > > Peanut Butter for the Desperate and Dangerous > > by Cherie Logan > October 14, 2000 > URL: http://www.themestream.com/articles/207326.html > > > Peanut Butter for the Desperate and Dangerous > > I have this incredible marriage. My husband and I have the same > tastes in most things. If he reads a book and hates it, so will I. > If I like a food, so will he. Except for peanut butter. I could be > eloquent and say that the peanut butter eaters in our home are my > children. But that would be a terrible lie. They dabble in it. In > fact, my daughter's favorite when-mom-is-not-looking pastime is to > dabble with both hands and then run and hide. No, my children are not > the peanut butter connoisseurs. The crime belongs to their mother. > Perhaps that creamy light brown stuff is a sin to health but is has a > revered spot in my cupboard. > > Here are peanut butter ideas to cause my husband to rush to the > bathroom holding his stomach. Isn't that a delightful thought? > ____________________ > > Peanut Butter Sandwiches > > There is an art to this. It isn't enough to put the good stuff on the > bread. You have to know your diners. Little children should only > have a little peanut butter. Too much and they can choke. Heimlech > Maneuver on somebody choking on sticky peanut butter would be a > disaster. > > When they get older, you put a little more on the bread but not too > much more. They'll never know what they are missing and you can have > more for yourself. > > How do I like it? Thick and creamy. And if it is melty from being on > warm bread, so much the better. > > Peanut Butter and Jam > Peanut Butter, mayonnaise and tomatoes > Peanut butter, mayonnaise and (gag!) baloney (my mother fed this to > us. My children think I'm nuts.) > > Don't try > Peanut Butter and Tuna > ____________________ > > The Best Quickie Ever: > 90 Second Chocolate Peanut Swirls > > Warm a tortilla for 15 seconds in the microwave. > Spread with Peanut Butter > Sprinkle with sugar or cinnamon sugar > Sprinkle with chocolate chips > > Roll and and put back in the microwave for 15-25 seconds. Take out of > oven and gently semi flatten. Slice into pinwheels and let cool. > Gooey, rich and deliciously yummy. > ____________________ > > Open Faced Peanut Butter Sandwiches > Ok, so some of these combinations are > only for the Dangerous and Desperate! > > Peanut butter and Applesauce > Peanut butter and sliced bananas > Peanut butter and sliced strawberries > Peanut butter and sugar > Peanut butter and cinnamon sugar > Peanut butter and (gasp!) Honey > Peanut butter and plain yogurt > Peanut butter and flavored yogurt > Peanut butter and cream cheese. Put the cream cheese on first or > you'll get frustrated. > Peanut butter and sour cream > ____________________ > > Forget the Bread > > Peanut Butter on tortillas and on crackers. > Peanut Butter on apple slices. > Peanut Butter on pineapple chunks. > Peanut Butter on a banana. > > Peanut Butter on celery. Boring but what's a menu list with this > tricky way to get children to eat something green. Of course, the > children usually just suck off the peanut butter and raisins and leave > the celery behind. > ____________________ > > Chocolate Peanut Butter Pies > > This is a critique, not a recipe. I have tried these pies at any > restaurant that offers them. Here is what I think of CP Pies. > > My favorite ever was at a little place in La Mesa, San Diego, > California. The diner is no longer there and the pie is only a fond > memory. This place, Margaret's, made what looked like a chocolate > cream pie and added the perfect amount of peanut butter to the mix. > It wasn't a faint hint of peanut butter. It was Chocolate Peanut > Butter and Don't You Forget It! > > My next favorite was at a family owned restaurant in Ramona, San > Diego, California called The Telephone Company. My mother once gave > me one of these pies as a gift. And it was a perfect gift for nutty > tendencies. This style was the same as my third favorite which is > found at the chain, Baker's Square. This type has a layer of very > thick and rich chocolate topped by a peanut butter custard. > > Most restaurants cheat. They make peanut butter pies without the > chocolate. Or they use such a thin layer of chocolate that it might > as well be absent. And often the custard is so lightly flavored that > one wonders exactly what is being eaten. I have found a quick fix > though. While dining at Denny's, I requested a side of fudge and > dumped it on the pie. Ah! The Band-Aid Surgery worked! > ____________________ > > The Ultimate Offense > > One last peanut butter idea. Blame this on my mother, on my > grandfather, on the Kansas Midwest. Anything but don't throw stones > at the messenger! > > I was raised with putting peanut butter on pancakes, waffles and > french toast and then pouring hot syrup over the top. When I would > stay at a friend's home, the family would gather around and be > appalled at the sight. When I married my husband all but forbid that > concoction to be eaten in his sight. Then we went on vacation. > > First we stopped at his childhood friend's home. At breakfast, his > wife served...pancakes with peanut butter and syrup. > > Then we stopped at Neil's sister's home. For breakfast we > had...pancakes with peanut butter and syrup. > > Finally we stopped at my grandfather's home. Of course it was > pancakes with peanut butter and syrup. > > Neil had figured that the world had gone mad. > > We lived in Kansas City, Missouri while he finished school to be a > chiropractor. When we were on the road, moving to that far away state > we stopped at a little restaurant in Kansas. Right on the menu in > bold black print...you got it...Pancakes with Peanut Butter and > Syrup! Ah-hah! Maybe that is where my Kansas born grandfather got > the family tradition! > ____________________ > > Writing this inspired me and I just made my Quickie Desert: 90 Second > Chocolate Peanut Butter Swirls. > > My children hovered as I used the last of my chips. I guarded my > concoction like a dog with a bone. But their little hands were > quicker then the blink of an eye as they left behind my empty plate. > ____________________ > > Kitchen Chaos > Children in the Kitchen > Children Still in the Kitchen > Marathon Cooking and Other Ideas > A Little of This and More of That > Peanut Butter for the Desperate and the Dangerous > Kitchen Crisis > Munchies for the Masses > ____________________ > > For an index of my ThemeStream > articles please see: > Family Life and Homeschool Index > Ponderings of an LDS Mother > Ten Children Born of Courage and Faith > Ten Children Raised on Hope and Love > > > > Copyright Cherie Logan > About this author: > I'm a mother of ten children, nine living. Eight have been born at > home and all have been hometaught. I enjoy writing, speaking, teaching > and genealogy. As the wife of a chiropractor I am also interested in > health, alternative medicine and an enjoyable balanced life. I have > been helping Neil's patients in the area of communication, goal > setting and the emotional aspects of health for the past fifteen > years. I have taught childbirth classes and have helped women with > nursing babies and child rearing for over twenty years. Boy, I don't > feel old enough to be doing these things this long! ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:31:52 EDT > " kim bower " <wi1622 > Re: Digest Number 300 > > Mika wrote: > > " Maybe someone can come up > with a vegan substitute for sour cream? " > > Someone has. It's based on soy and while a sour cream lover could taste the > difference, it is still good. I don't have the company information handy > since I finished off a container this weekend and went to the recycle > station already. I found it in the produce section right next to the tofu > products. > I too would like to hear about the soymilk machine. I wonder if it's the > same idea as a juicer? > Kim > > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:29:22 -0500 > " Pam & Frank Mouton " <PAMMOUTON > Re: Introduction (liz) > > I am from the UK Liz, but I live in the USA now. I was born in Peterborough > and spent most of my life living in the Fen country. I now live just > outside Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Where are you from? Are you still living > in the UK? > > Pam. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:44:13 -0400 > alanzol > Re: Avocado bad for you? > > Avacados have good fat, but Avacado and Coconut are the two plant sources of > cholestrol. A whole one every day is a lot! If I had high cholesterol I > would reduce my consumption of them. I believe a serving is about 1/3 or a > 1/4 of an avacado. I would limit myself to that much in a day. Just my > opinion. Rachel > > Diane Jarosy wrote: > >> Hi I eat avocado every day ,now I have heard they can be bad for you >> because of the fat content,Is that so?I have high cholestrol so I am >> worried as I eat one every day.Diane >> >> >> contact owner: -owner >> Mail list: >> Delivered-mailing list >> List-Un: - >> >> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed >> contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list >> or anything else. Thank you. >> please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:05:22 -0400 > alanzol > Re: re dairy free kid > > When my daughter was 17 months old she stopped nursing. I tried to give her > milk, but she would throw up from it. Then I tried giving her soy milk and > she got terrible gas from it. She was able to digest yogurt. She had been > eating yogurt since she was 6 months old. We went to Oat milk which she did > not have a problem with. She also did not have a problem with infant > formula. She eventually grew out of it. The culture in yogurt makes it > easier to digest than milk. I would try yogurt. Children need calcium not > necessarily milk products. We buy O.J. with Calcium. My daughter is now 3 > and can drink milk, but is not crazy about it. She will eat cheese and O.J. > with calcium. Rachel > > Diane Jarosy wrote: > >> Thanks Julie ,I'll try those suggestions.Lucy eats a little cheese >> which does not seem to activate her eczema as much as Milk and ice >> cream,possibly because she eats small amounts. We have tried soya >> cheeses but she just doesn't like the taste .The soya cream cheeses >> are better taste wise as they have flavouring such as Garlic or >> chives.She likes the " tofutti " range of ice cream and " Swedish Glace " >> which are dairy free especially the chocolate ones.Diane >> >> -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:18:47 -0400 > alanzol > Re: chicken style seitan > > I agree! I use the White Wave Wheat Meat. They have in other styles also. > They have it with a Terriaki sauce which is really good. If you cook it with > green peppers and other vegetalbes it is fab! I have cooked it with just a > green pepper, and it is like Seitan pepper steak. It works great and it is > really easy. Try it, you will love it. I made a stir fry dish with a lot of > veggies and the Terriaki wheat meat and brought it to a pot luck. People were > raving about it! I think it was consumed by meat eaters who thought it was > meat. I think one person asked me if I got such good meat in a supermarket. > I > told them the secret was Seitan wheat meat they did not know what I was > talking > about. I made it about 1/2 hour which was all the time I had to prepare a > pot > luck dish. Rachel > > Pam & Frank Mouton wrote: > >> White Wave make Chicken Style Wheat Meat and it is available at your local >> health/vegetarian store. If they don't have any in stock, I am sure they >> will order you some. It is very versatile and the wonderful thing is, it >> can be de-frosted and re-frozen without affecting the texture or flavour. I >> use it in stir fry recipes and stuff. Try it! >> > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:22:15 -0400 > alanzol > Re: Holidays > > > My H.F. store carries it in the winter. I never tried it. I would > imagine the problem is that it is in a big box and the H.F. stores have > a shortage of freezer space. Rachel > Pam & Frank Mouton wrote: > >> With the holiday season coming up and all the new veggies that post >> here, I thought I would tell you what I have for to eat for the >> holiday season. I get something called Unturkey made by a company >> called Now and Zen. It comes in a box, frozen, and is made of seitan >> and has a crispy " skin " on the top. It is stuffed with a vegan >> stuffing and comes complete with a tub of vegan gravy. I eat it with >> all the other goodies associated with turkey - cranberry sauce, and >> all those lovely veggies. It only takes about 35-45 minutes to cook >> and it smells and tastes wonderful. I have to special-order it from >> my local health store and a small one which serves 2-4 people costs >> about $25. I know this isn't cheap, but there are plenty of >> leftovers. The cold cuts are as delicious as the hot Unturkey and it >> makes fantastic sandwiches afterwards! They also make a large one >> which serves 8 people. There is also another product called Tofurkey, >> but I have not tried this so I don't know how good it is. I like the >> Unturkey because it comes with the gravy and everything. The Unturkey >> comes in quite a large box, but we only have a regular-size >> fridge/freezer. I have two in my freezer now and I just take them out >> of the boxes and double-wrap them in foil to save space. If you want >> to try it, you need to order now as demand gets high and last year I >> left it until the end of October and nearly missed out! > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:32:45 -0400 > alanzol > Re: instead of lunch meat > > Oven roasted vegetables with olive oil and balsamic vinegar. Cut up red > / green peppers, zucchini, yellow squash, onions, tomatoes, garlic, > eggplant. sprinkle with olive oil. Cook in the oven for about 40 > minutes to an hour. Slice up a baguette and put balsamic vinegar on > the bread and some sliced up mozerella cheese. I like the fresh, but > packaged works. Then put the vegetables on it. You can also put pesto, > hummus or veggie mayo or mustard on the sandwich. I know in New York > City a small sandwich like that would sell for at least $5. It is sooo > Good! You could try different cheeses and add on some veggie slices. > Rachel > > Cherrie Jacobsen wrote: > >> hi chris!!!! there is a brand called Yves that can be found in any >> grocery store (at least in Washington State) that makes fantastic fake >> deli meat, and the brand Tofurkey also makes deli slices that are >> fantastic!!!!-cherrie >> >> My husband surprised me yesterday by saying that he would be >> willing to try >> to go totally meatless, except what was he going to bring in >> for lunch at >> work! He always brown-paper bags one or two cold-cut >> sandwiches. >> Personally, I always hated lunch meat, even if fresh from >> the deli. I am >> forever eating soup & pasta for lunch in little microwave >> bowls. My husband >> however, doesn't have any time to microwave on his job >> though and we are on a >> budget which is why he likes cold-cuts. Anyone have any >> ideas besides just >> cheese sandwiches? Is the alternative cold veggie >> sandwiches? >> > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:06:20 -0000 > " " Jeffkukz " Ward " <ptcwards > Re: Article from a friend > > Good grief, Beth! Check out message #1369 right above this one for my > peanut sauce. You won't be disappointed! Best wishes, Jeffkukz > ******************************************************************** > , Beth Cangiano <Bethie1480@a...> > wrote: >> >> You have been emailed an article by your friend, >> Beth Cangiano, who said: >> " Thought this was a great article! Remember me-I am the one that > LOVES PEANUT BUTTER! So this is a good article! " >> >> Visit Themestream at http://www.themestream.com/ to see more >> articles on this subject, or over a thousand other subjects. >> To quick- to the Cooking for a Family category, simply > reply >> to this email to start getting updates delivered to you daily. >> The reply can be empty. Thank you! >> >> >> Article Follows >> > ------- >> >> Peanut Butter for the Desperate and Dangerous >> >> by Cherie Logan >> October 14, 2000 >> URL: http://www.themestream.com/articles/207326.html >> >> >> Peanut Butter for the Desperate and Dangerous >> >> I have this incredible marriage. My husband and I have the same >> tastes in most things. If he reads a book and hates it, so will > I. >> If I like a food, so will he. Except for peanut butter. I > could be >> eloquent and say that the peanut butter eaters in our home are my >> children. But that would be a terrible lie. They dabble in > it. In >> fact, my daughter's favorite when-mom-is-not-looking pastime is > to >> dabble with both hands and then run and hide. No, my children > are not >> the peanut butter connoisseurs. The crime belongs to their > mother. >> Perhaps that creamy light brown stuff is a sin to health but is > has a >> revered spot in my cupboard. >> >> Here are peanut butter ideas to cause my husband to rush to the >> bathroom holding his stomach. Isn't that a delightful thought? >> > ____________________ >> >> Peanut Butter Sandwiches >> >> There is an art to this. It isn't enough to put the good stuff > on the >> bread. You have to know your diners. Little children should > only >> have a little peanut butter. Too much and they can choke. > Heimlech >> Maneuver on somebody choking on sticky peanut butter would be a >> disaster. >> >> When they get older, you put a little more on the bread but not > too >> much more. They'll never know what they are missing and you can > have >> more for yourself. >> >> How do I like it? Thick and creamy. And if it is melty from > being on >> warm bread, so much the better. >> >> Peanut Butter and Jam >> Peanut Butter, mayonnaise and tomatoes >> Peanut butter, mayonnaise and (gag!) baloney (my mother fed > this to >> us. My children think I'm nuts.) >> >> Don't try >> Peanut Butter and Tuna >> > ____________________ >> >> The Best Quickie Ever: >> 90 Second Chocolate Peanut Swirls >> >> Warm a tortilla for 15 seconds in the microwave. >> Spread with Peanut Butter >> Sprinkle with sugar or cinnamon sugar >> Sprinkle with chocolate chips >> >> Roll and and put back in the microwave for 15-25 seconds. Take > out of >> oven and gently semi flatten. Slice into pinwheels and let cool. >> Gooey, rich and deliciously yummy. >> > ____________________ >> >> Open Faced Peanut Butter Sandwiches >> Ok, so some of these combinations are >> only for the Dangerous and Desperate! >> >> Peanut butter and Applesauce >> Peanut butter and sliced bananas >> Peanut butter and sliced strawberries >> Peanut butter and sugar >> Peanut butter and cinnamon sugar >> Peanut butter and (gasp!) Honey >> Peanut butter and plain yogurt >> Peanut butter and flavored yogurt >> Peanut butter and cream cheese. Put the cream cheese on first or >> you'll get frustrated. >> Peanut butter and sour cream >> > ____________________ >> >> Forget the Bread >> >> Peanut Butter on tortillas and on crackers. >> Peanut Butter on apple slices. >> Peanut Butter on pineapple chunks. >> Peanut Butter on a banana. >> >> Peanut Butter on celery. Boring but what's a menu list with this >> tricky way to get children to eat something green. Of course, > the >> children usually just suck off the peanut butter and raisins and > leave >> the celery behind. >> > ____________________ >> >> Chocolate Peanut Butter Pies >> >> This is a critique, not a recipe. I have tried these pies at any >> restaurant that offers them. Here is what I think of CP Pies. >> >> My favorite ever was at a little place in La Mesa, San Diego, >> California. The diner is no longer there and the pie is only a > fond >> memory. This place, Margaret's, made what looked like a > chocolate >> cream pie and added the perfect amount of peanut butter to the > mix. >> It wasn't a faint hint of peanut butter. It was Chocolate Peanut >> Butter and Don't You Forget It! >> >> My next favorite was at a family owned restaurant in Ramona, San >> Diego, California called The Telephone Company. My mother once > gave >> me one of these pies as a gift. And it was a perfect gift for > nutty >> tendencies. This style was the same as my third favorite which > is >> found at the chain, Baker's Square. This type has a layer of > very >> thick and rich chocolate topped by a peanut butter custard. >> >> Most restaurants cheat. They make peanut butter pies without the >> chocolate. Or they use such a thin layer of chocolate that it > might >> as well be absent. And often the custard is so lightly flavored > that >> one wonders exactly what is being eaten. I have found a quick > fix >> though. While dining at Denny's, I requested a side of fudge and >> dumped it on the pie. Ah! The Band-Aid Surgery worked! >> > ____________________ >> >> The Ultimate Offense >> >> One last peanut butter idea. Blame this on my mother, on my >> grandfather, on the Kansas Midwest. Anything but don't throw > stones >> at the messenger! >> >> I was raised with putting peanut butter on pancakes, waffles and >> french toast and then pouring hot syrup over the top. When I > would >> stay at a friend's home, the family would gather around and be >> appalled at the sight. When I married my husband all but forbid > that >> concoction to be eaten in his sight. Then we went on vacation. >> >> First we stopped at his childhood friend's home. At breakfast, > his >> wife served...pancakes with peanut butter and syrup. >> >> Then we stopped at Neil's sister's home. For breakfast we >> had...pancakes with peanut butter and syrup. >> >> Finally we stopped at my grandfather's home. Of course it was >> pancakes with peanut butter and syrup. >> >> Neil had figured that the world had gone mad. >> >> We lived in Kansas City, Missouri while he finished school to be > a >> chiropractor. When we were on the road, moving to that far away > state >> we stopped at a little restaurant in Kansas. Right on the menu > in >> bold black print...you got it...Pancakes with Peanut Butter and >> Syrup! Ah-hah! Maybe that is where my Kansas born grandfather > got >> the family tradition! >> > ____________________ >> >> Writing this inspired me and I just made my Quickie Desert: 90 > Second >> Chocolate Peanut Butter Swirls. >> >> My children hovered as I used the last of my chips. I guarded my >> concoction like a dog with a bone. But their little hands were >> quicker then the blink of an eye as they left behind my empty > plate. >> > ____________________ >> >> Kitchen Chaos >> Children in the Kitchen >> Children Still in the Kitchen >> Marathon Cooking and Other Ideas >> A Little of This and More of That >> Peanut Butter for the Desperate and the Dangerous >> Kitchen Crisis >> Munchies for the Masses >> > ____________________ >> >> For an index of my ThemeStream >> articles please see: >> Family Life and Homeschool Index >> Ponderings of an LDS Mother >> Ten Children Born of Courage and Faith >> Ten Children Raised on Hope and Love >> >> >> >> Copyright Cherie Logan >> About this author: >> I'm a mother of ten children, nine living. Eight have been born > at >> home and all have been hometaught. I enjoy writing, speaking, > teaching >> and genealogy. As the wife of a chiropractor I am also > interested in >> health, alternative medicine and an enjoyable balanced life. I > have >> been helping Neil's patients in the area of communication, goal >> setting and the emotional aspects of health for the past fifteen >> years. I have taught childbirth classes and have helped women > with >> nursing babies and child rearing for over twenty years. Boy, I > don't >> feel old enough to be doing these things this long! > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:32:58 -0400 > Barbara MacCameron <blmgsl > Re: Digest Number 299 > > Hi, I'm Barbara new to list and happy with all the suggestions. I too > attempt to find ways of putting tofu > into the diet. If I have soup for dinner, I cut it up and let it sit in the > soup long enough to absorb the liquid. But that's about as creative as I > get! Jayson, I'll have to try the breaded tofu idea...looked wonderful > > Does anyone have a problem craving meat? I 've been a vegetarian for over > ten years and I still long for a roast. Vegans tell me it's because I > consume milk; carnivores tell me it's because my body needs meat. I don't > buy that, but would like to know if any other folks out there who have > adapted vegetarian diet for ethical reasons still crave meat. ? > Barbara > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 12 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:26:18 -0400 > cdipietro > Re: Digest Number 299 > > Hi. The thought of eating meat, especially red meat, literally makes me > feel ill. The smell of meat cooking is totally repulsive. Twice during the > 15 years I've been a vegetarian I attempted to eat fish. I got sick both > times. No problem at all for me. I'll never touch the stuff again. > Crystal > > >> Does anyone have a problem craving meat? I 've been a vegetarian for over >> ten years and I still long for a roast. Vegans tell me it's because I >> consume milk; carnivores tell me it's because my body needs meat. I don't >> buy that, but would like to know if any other folks out there who have >> adapted vegetarian diet for ethical reasons still crave meat. ? >> Barbara >> >> >> >> contact owner: -owner >> Mail list: >> Delivered-mailing list >> List-Un: - >> >> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed >> contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list >> or anything else. Thank you. >> please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list >> > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 13 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:38:43 -0400 > Carrie Nixon <cnixon > Re: Digest Number 299 > > Barbara MacCameron wrote: > >> Hi, I'm Barbara new to list and happy with all the suggestions. I too >> attempt to find ways of putting tofu >> into the diet. If I have soup for dinner, I cut it up and let it sit in the >> soup long enough to absorb the liquid. But that's about as creative as I >> get! Jayson, I'll have to try the breaded tofu idea...looked wonderful >> >> Does anyone have a problem craving meat? I 've been a vegetarian for over >> ten years and I still long for a roast. Vegans tell me it's because I >> consume milk; carnivores tell me it's because my body needs meat. I don't >> buy that, but would like to know if any other folks out there who have >> adapted vegetarian diet for ethical reasons still crave meat. ? > > Hi Barbara, welcome to the list! > > I've only been a veggie for a year (I know, still a baby!) but I do crave meat > occasionally. Thinking about why I became a vegetarian (I just couldn't eat > animals anymore, and I had started to see the faces of the animal that the > meat > came from - trippy, I know...) helps, especially if the meat is right in front > of you. But I figured out that when I craved meat (especially red meat), I > actually needed iron. So I take an iron supplement, bulk up on leafy greens or > iron fortified foods, and I'm fine. Do you eat meat-flavoured foods? If you > don't think it's your iron, then maybe you just miss the taste? A lot of > people > were raised on meat, I think the taste is what stops some people from giving > it > up. > > Just a couple thoughts. Iron worked for me, hope it may work for you! > > Carrie > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 14 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:49:36 -0500 > " C.V. " <cynergy > RE: Avocado bad for you? > > Actually, what avacados and coconuts have is saturated fat, in the form of > tropical oils. They don't have cholesterol. No plants have cholesterol. > Cholesterol is an animal product, formed by the liver. A lot of people > don't know this. I just thought Diane might like to know, since she is > concerned with her elevated cholesterol. (Of course, eating too much > saturated fats isn't good for you either, but it won't affect your blood > cholesterol levels, it will affect your triglyceride levels.) > >> >> alanzol [alanzol] >> Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:44 AM >> >> Re: Avocado bad for you? >> >> >> Avacados have good fat, but Avacado and Coconut are the two plant >> sources of >> cholestrol. A whole one every day is a lot! If I had high cholesterol I >> would reduce my consumption of them. I believe a serving is >> about 1/3 or a >> 1/4 of an avacado. I would limit myself to that much in a day. Just my >> opinion. Rachel >> >> Diane Jarosy wrote: >> >>> Hi I eat avocado every day ,now I have heard they can be bad for you >>> because of the fat content,Is that so?I have high cholestrol so I am >>> worried as I eat one every day.Diane >>> >>> >>> contact owner: -owner >>> Mail list: >>> Delivered-mailing list >>> List-Un: - >>> >>> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed >>> contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list >>> or anything else. Thank you. >>> please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list >> >> >> >> contact owner: -owner >> Mail list: >> Delivered-mailing list >> List-Un: - >> >> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed >> contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list >> or anything else. Thank you. >> please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list >> >> >> >> > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 15 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:59:26 EDT > phyllidill > my introduction > > Hi-- another new member. I'm Phyllis, 36 yrs old, live in Arizona. I've > dabbled with vegetarianism off and on for some time. Went pretty much meat > free (0-3 oz/wk) w/ little dairy from 8/99 until 2/2000. I became pregnant > in Dec99, and ended up eating about 4oz meat daily throughout my pregnancy. > I couldn't sleep through night, waking up hungry, vomiting from " morning > sickness " . A little meat stopped that lovely scenario. > > Baby girl was born 11Sept. This was the healthiest of all of my pregnancies, > and I'm 3 lbs lower than my starting weight. I attribute it to the low amt > of animal products I ingested. Now I have 3 kids -- 5, 4 and 6 weeks old- > all girls. > > Working on cutting meat out again-- I have many meat free days, use > little-to-no milk/dairy products-- I drink soy or rice milk, cook w/ it, > etc. I stay healthier and feel better without the animal products. > > That describes me-- I enjoy cooking, have worked in the food/restaurant > industry in past. I like to adapt recipes that used to have meat and make > them meat-free. > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 16 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:39:13 -0400 > " Dancer^ " <coolcook > Rec; Vegetarian Potato Nut Croquettes > > Vegetarian Potato Nut Croquettes > > 4 large potatoes > 1 Tablespoon margarine or sesame oil > 2 to 3 Tablespoons unflavoured soy or almond milk > 3/4 cup chopped almonds > 3 Tablespoons fresh parsley, chopped > salt and pepper to taste > About 1/2 cup unbleached flour, or fine dry bread crumbs, or a combination > of the two > light oil for pan frying > > Cut the potatoes into bit-sized pieces. Place in a saucepan, cover with > water, and bring to a boil. Lower heat and simmer, covered, until the > potatoes are tender, about twenty minutes. Drain well and place in a large > mixing bowl. Mash the potatoes with the margarine or oil and just enough of > the milk to give it a creamy consistency (add the milk a tablespoon at a > time until it's creamy). Stir in the chopped almonds and the parsley, and > season to taste. Place the flour and/or bread crumbs in a shallow dish. With > your hands (floured slightly if necessary so the potato mixture doesn't > stick) form the mixture into croquettes -- either logs about 3/4 inch around > and two inches long, or patties about 3/4 inch thick and two inches across. > Coat with the flour and/or bread crumbs. Heat the oil in a skillet, and > place the croquettes carefully into the pan. Fry over medium-high heat until > the bottom is brown and crisp, then turn over and fry the other side. Lift > with a slotted pancake turner and drain well on paper towels. Serve hot. > About 4 servings. > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 17 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:39:24 -0400 > " Dancer^ " <coolcook > Vegetarian, Spinach & Cucumber Spread > > Vegetarian, Spinach & Cucumber Spread > > This is a nice spread to serve with flat bread or other forms of crisp > breads. > > 1/2 cup cucumber, finely chopped and seeded > 10 ounces silken tofu > 10-ounce package frozen spinach, thawed and dried > Juice of half a lemon > 1 bunch of scallion, finely minced > 1 teaspoon dried dill > Salt to taste > 1/4 teaspoon dried basil > Pepper to taste > > Combine all of the ingredients (except the cucumber) in a blender and > blend until the spinach and tofu are well incorporated. > Remove mixture and transfer to a bowl. Mix in the cucumber and serve. > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 18 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:41:04 -0400 > " Dancer^ " <coolcook > Rec; Vegetarian, Low-Fat Black Bean & Salsa Salad > > Vegetarian, Low-Fat Black Bean & Salsa Salad > > 1/2 can corn, drained > 1/2 can black beans, drained > 3/4 c. celery, chopped > 1/4 c. green onion, chopped > 1/8 c. cilantro, chopped > 6 ozs. homemade salsa > 1/8 c. red wine vinegar > > In a large bowl, comine first five ingredients; mix well. Blend salsa and > vinegar. Pour over salad and toss well. Cover and chill. Spoon onto lettuce > leaves. > Makes 4 servings. > Calories...116...Fat...1 g...Fiber...2.1 g. > Exchanges...1 starch...1 vegetable. > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 19 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:03:50 +0100 > " elizaga " <elizaga > Re;Introduction(Liz) Pam/Steph > > Hello Pam > > I have a friend who once lived in Peterborough. Yes, I live in the UK - > Scotland. I am Scottish, though well travelled in England with a number of > friends who live there. I'm 7 miles from Stirling. Half way between > Edinburgh and Glasgow, the former over an hour's drive, the latter about an > hour. Very central. > > Hello Steph > > In Stirling we have a very good Health Store - two, in fact. One family run > the other a branch of a well known chain. Also a good veggie shop - > greengrocers - and many of the supermarkets now stock vegetarian and needed > ingredients. Vegetarian is really much more easily accepted nowadays which > is good, previously it was difficult getting ingredients. > But no local vegetarian resaurants, though lots of Indian etc., and a number > of places do cater by having one or two veggie things on their menus. > Edinburgh has a marvellous place, opened about 25 years ago when veggie was > considered really cranky. Marvellous menu - but VERY pricey. > > I have dabbled, and eat meat no more than once a week now, mainly fish and > chicken as well as (till now ) the occasional veggie meal. My daughter > makes great veggie meals but is always rather vague when I ask for the > recipe. :<( Perhaps because she does it " out of her head " with lots of > variations. But one thing that put me off is that she takes AGES to > prepare and cook them, and we are all starving, our stomachs thinking our > throats have been cut! I don't have the time nor the patience now and > really need veggie meals that are reasonably quick to prepare and cook. > > Liz ~ Scotland > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 20 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:33:52 +0100 > " elizaga " <elizaga > Re: Avocado bad for you? > > Dianne, interested to hear you have high cholesterol as I discovered I had, > in March. Are you on any medication? I was prescribed one of the statin > drugs which brought me right down to normal. Unfortunately it also caused > severe muscle pain for almost 6 months, and only last month was it realised > that it could be the statin drug causing this, and I have now stopped taking > it. Wary about going on any other medication. > > I wondered if you try to control your level with diet alone? My GP > (General Practitioner) said diet wouldn't make much difference but I would > like to try and see if it does. Hence my renewed interest in vegetarian. > Though also other reasons. > > Interested to hear that Avacado does not contain cholesterol. > > Liz ~ Scotland > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 21 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:32:48 -0000 > " " Jeffkukz " Ward " <ptcwards > Another quickie: Spinach, tomato, chickpea pasta! > > Here's another one that you can fix in less than a half-hour and even > my carnivore of a son loves it. > INGREDIENTS > 1 12 oz can of chickpeas > 1 package frozen spinach > A fist-full of cherry or grape tomatoes > 1 large onion > 2-3 cloves chopped garlic (I love garlic and use it liberally) > 1 tbsp olive oil > 1/4 cup Italian dressing (I like Paul Newman's) > 1 sm package of bow-tie pasta (or whatever you prefer) > Dash of red pepper flakes > DIRECTIONS > Heat onions/garlic/red pepper flakes in olive oil in a LARGE frying > pan until tender > Add thawed package of spinach, tomatoes, chickpeas and stir without > boiling the mixture. > Boil pasta until el dente', strain and carefully add to mixture > Last, add salad dressing and mix well. > SERVING IDEAS > This is one of my one-course quickies and the only thing I add is > Parmesan cheese. For vegans, hmmmm. is there a substitute for > Parmesan cheese? For me, it really sets this dish off. This dish > seems to grow and grow and GROW in the pan so it will easily serve a > family of four and makes good leftovers. This is a variation of a > recipe out of " Vegetarian Express " by Nava Atlas. Questions? Your > comments are always welcome. Jeffkukz > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 22 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:39:47 -0000 > MooMomTo2 > Re: Another quickie: Spinach, tomato, chickpea pasta! > > Soyco makes a vegan parmesan which is actually good....not parmesan > but tasty. My DH is dairy-free and enjoys the vegan alfredo I make > for him with it. THanks for the recipe it sounds great, > ~~G > > and the only thing I add is >> Parmesan cheese. For vegans, hmmmm. is there a substitute for >> Parmesan cheese? For me, it really sets this dish off. This dish >> seems to grow and grow and GROW in the pan so it will easily serve > a >> family of four and makes good leftovers. This is a variation of a >> recipe out of " Vegetarian Express " by Nava Atlas. Questions? Your >> comments are always welcome. Jeffkukz > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 23 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:37:23 -0000 > MooMomTo2 > Avocado myth > > While avocados are high in vitamins, phytochemicals and unsaturated > fats, they do not contain cholesterol. Animal products are the only > products on the face of this earth that contain cholesterol...but I > am sure that you know that you do not have to consume cholesterol to > have artheroschlerosis. Ingested fats will either negatively or > positively effect serum cholsterol and also effect the health of your > blood vessels. Avocados, nuts, seeds and other plant sources of > unsaturated fats may actually improve the " good " to " bad " ratio of > cholesterol in the blood, and also may play an important role in > keeping the heart and vessels healthy. There have been numerous > studies done on the role of plant fats in a healthy body...I have not > come across any they have illustrated that unprocessed plant oils as > unhealthy. Hydrogenated oils and fats, often found in margarine, > shortening, jarred peanut butters (not HFS or Smucker's), and most > processed foods are unhealthy and may effect triglyceride levels in a > harmful way. Avocados, and nuts, however contain mostly healthy fats > and can be an essential element in a well-balanced healthy diet. A > medium avocado will contain around 25 grams of fat, about 5 grams of > it being saturated....which is fairly high. If one is eating them > instead of animal fats, however, it is not much. Obviously, if you > are following the Ornish plan to lower cholesterol then none of this > applies :-) > ~~G > > PS--Like nuts, seeds, etc. one can stretch the flavor of avocado by > mixing it with other ingredients. I agree with Rachel, one serving a > day is probably best as diversity is usually key to balance. > > > , alanzol@a... wrote: >> Avacados have good fat, but Avacado and Coconut are the two plant > sources of >> cholestrol. A whole one every day is a lot! If I had high > cholesterol I >> would reduce my consumption of them. I believe a serving is about > 1/3 or a >> 1/4 of an avacado. I would limit myself to that much in a day. > Just my >> opinion. Rachel >> >> Diane Jarosy wrote: >> >>> Hi I eat avocado every day ,now I have heard they can be bad for > you >>> because of the fat content,Is that so?I have high cholestrol so I > am >>> worried as I eat one every day.Diane >>> >>> >>> contact owner: -owner >>> Mail list: >>> Delivered-mailing list >>> List-Un: - >>> >>> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed >>> contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list >>> or anything else. Thank you. >>> please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 24 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:08:24 -0400 > " Jayson Irion " <herdaughter > Re: Digest Number 299 > > Barbara, > > > > I've been veggie for four years now, and I've had this problem a couple of > times. The first is easily explainable. At the time I was waiting tables at > this upscale seafood restaurant that had almost nothing vegetarian on the > menu. So all day long I'd be carrying around these dishes that smelled really > good, but then I'd end up eating the same one or two items that the kitchen > would make for me. So that was more frustration than anything. > > > > The stranger time was earlier this year, and it really freaked me out. For > about a month I had these weird cravings for chicken. I almost stopped being > vegetarian. I don't know what caused them, but they went away & I haven't had > any other cravings in the longest time. > > > > The only other times were when I would see or smell a dish that had happy > childhood memories for me. But those weren't really cravings, they were more > nostalgia. > > > > J. > > > > > > --------------- > > Jayson Irion > > herdaughter > > ICQ#2205634 > > AIM nick: WalkLula > > - > > Barbara MacCameron > > > > Wednesday, October 25, 2000 11:32 AM > > Re: Digest Number 299 > > > > > > Hi, I'm Barbara new to list and happy with all the suggestions. I too > > attempt to find ways of putting tofu > > into the diet. If I have soup for dinner, I cut it up and let it sit in the > > soup long enough to absorb the liquid. But that's about as creative as I > > get! Jayson, I'll have to try the breaded tofu idea...looked wonderful > > > > Does anyone have a problem craving meat? I 've been a vegetarian for over > > ten years and I still long for a roast. Vegans tell me it's because I > > consume milk; carnivores tell me it's because my body needs meat. I don't > > buy that, but would like to know if any other folks out there who have > > adapted vegetarian diet for ethical reasons still crave meat. ? > > Barbara > > > > > > eGroups Sponsor > > > > > > contact owner: -owner > > Mail list: > > Delivered-mailing list > > List-Un: - > > > > no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed > > contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list > > or anything else. Thank you. > > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 25 > Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:26:08 EDT > julianne0001 > Re: Avocado bad for you? > > > Hi, > > In my nutritive value of foods book, neither avocados nor coconuts have > cholesterol. I know they are both high in saturated fat (relative to other > non-meat items). Bile salts, which are necessary for the digestion and > absorption of fat, are synthesized from cholesterol. So a high fat diet will > not help someone with high cholesterol levels. I think saturated fats are > considered the worst of the " fat evils " , probably because they are more > " packed " . I don't remember. > > Eating a variety of foods (all in moderation), I think is key. > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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