Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 My life long vegetarian daughter just turned 22. She is as healthy as can be, never sick with as much as a cold. Ditto for me, vegetarian for 25+ years. My carnivorous 16 yr old daughter is also very healthy so maybe it is the luck of good genes too. Your boyfriend is mistaken though. You can be just fine without meat. Kris --- Angie <evil311kitten wrote: And I keep hearing from my boyfriend (he's a chef > and knows a lot > of nutritional info) that vegetarians need special > vitamins and he keeps > telling me the only place to get protien is meat. He > suggested I should eat > meat only once in awhile. I rarely ate meat even before I > decided to become > a vegetarian (well except for those 2 months where I ate > cheesesteaks 5 > days a week.) But I really want to not eat any meat at > all. But I also > want to be healthy. <snip> Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 I was also an extremely picky eater, in fact my now-husband had told someone that he could never marry someone like me because of my eating habits. I only ate red meat and fast food and pasta, no salads or veggies. I became a vegetarian about 16 years ago for the sake of the animals and we've been married over 12 -he became one 11 years ago. I have learned to like so many different veggies. We do the fake meats though. Morningstar and Boca make great burgers, bacon and sausage. You do not have to worry about getting enough protein as long as you are eating - there is protein in almost everything you eat. Good luck! - " Angie " <evil311kitten <Veg-D >; ; <quickv-vrecipes; <Vegetarian-Recipes >; <Veg-Recipes >; ; <vege_tarian >; <teenvegans >; <vegetarianism101 >; <vegetariancircle > Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:09 PM Me and Soy Chips > I am kind of having a hard time being a vegetarian. I always was and still > am a very picky eater. and for some reason I don't like to try new things. > But I told myself that if I want to give this a shot I'll have to try new > foods. So last night I had some Gimme Lean Ground 'meat' with my spaghetti. > It was icky I know a lot of people recommend Gimme Lean but I couldn't > eat it. And I keep hearing from my boyfriend (he's a chef and knows a lot > of nutritional info) that vegetarians need special vitamins and he keeps > telling me the only place to get protien is meat. He suggested I should eat > meat only once in awhile. I rarely ate meat even before I decided to become > a vegetarian (well except for those 2 months where I ate cheesesteaks 5 > days a week.) But I really want to not eat any meat at all. But I also > want to be healthy. I can't cook and even tho my boyf is a chef he works > all the time. So I need suggestions. Like if you were or know someone who > was a picky eater and then went vegetarian... Anything that you think could > help me out. Thanx > Also I found these chips today in Acme. They are Soya King brand Soy Chips. > There was a bunch of different flavors like BBQ, taco and sour cream and > onion. I don't think they are vegan because they have cheese powder. The > ingrediants for the sour cream and onion chips are: > Soybeans, corn starch, canola oil, dried onion, cheese powder (milk > culture, salt, enzymes), salt, natural flavor, citric acid, dried wheat, > parsley, caramel powder, lactic acid and chives. Just thought you would > like to know. > > ***!!!Check out the NEW 311 cd 'From Chaos' !!!*** > ***!!!'311, you wanna get next to them'!!!*** > >^..^< Angie >^..^< > * AIM: MintyFresh311Kat * > * ICQ: 108969301 * > * MSN: evilstellarkittie * > * : evil311kittie * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > STOP PUPPY MILLS: DON'T SHOP, ADOPT! > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > get a free eBook at : > www.douglasclegg.com/download.htm > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * " Music's what I need to keep my sanity " * > > 311 'Paradise' < > > * " I've found Jesus. He was behind the sofa the whole time. " * > > from a pin I got at the mall < > > * " When I die I want to go peacefully, in my sleep, like grandfather. Not > screaming, like the passengers in his car. " * > > i saw this somewhere< > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > contact owner: -owner > Mail list: > Delivered-mailing list > List-Un: - > > no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed > contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list > or anything else. Thank you. > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In Australia they market mushrooms as "meat for vegetarians" because of their protein content. They are also the basis for a number of "fake meat" products. If you didn't like the pretend mince, then try some other things - here I can get great mock chicken from my local chinese vege market, as well as fake seafood. Nothing wrong with being picky - just keep trying things and you are bound to find something you like! OM Shanti Michele Golden Lotus Yoga SchoolPH: 08 9344 5065Email: goldenlotus9Web: www.geocities.com/rakini_99 Swami Anandakapila Saraswati's Teacher RegisterWeb: www.geocities.com/anandakapila/ Friends in Yoga Email: friendsinyogaWeb: www.geocities.com/friendsinyoga - Nancy K Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:42 AM Re: Me and Soy Chips Angie... Hi, I'm new to the list, and was in the same place you are about 5 years ago. Try low-fat cottage cheese...unless you are vegan, this is a great source of protein. Also, try yogurt, if you like it. Beans, any beans have protein too. You do not need as much protein as you might think you do...I like chocolate soy milk too. I don't like the regular or the vanilla, so if I have milk its the chocolate one. There are LOTS of ways to get protein. These are just a few that helped me to get started. Nancy Angie wrote: I am kind of having a hard time being a vegetarian. I always was and still am a very picky eater. and for some reason I don't like to try new things. But I told myself that if I want to give this a shot I'll have to try new foods. So last night I had some Gimme Lean Ground 'meat' with my spaghetti. It was icky I know a lot of people recommend Gimme Lean but I couldn't eat it. And I keep hearing from my boyfriend (he's a chef and knows a lot of nutritional info) that vegetarians need special vitamins and he keeps telling me the only place to get protien is meat. He suggested I should eat meat only once in awhile. I rarely ate meat even before I decided to become a vegetarian (well except for those 2 months where I ate cheesesteaks 5 days a week.) But I really want to not eat any meat at all. But I also want to be healthy. I can't cook and even tho my boyf is a chef he works all the time. So I need suggestions. Like if you were or know someone who was a picky eater and then went vegetarian... Anything that you think could help me out. Thanx Also I found these chips today in Acme. They are Soya King brand Soy Chips. There was a bunch of different flavors like BBQ, taco and sour cream and onion. I don't think they are vegan because they have cheese powder. The ingrediants for the sour cream and onion chips are: Soybeans, corn starch, canola oil, dried onion, cheese powder (milk culture, salt, enzymes), salt, natural flavor, citric acid, dried wheat, parsley, caramel powder, lactic acid and chives. Just thought you would like to know. ***!!!Check out the NEW 311 cd 'From Chaos' !!!*** ***!!!'311, you wanna get next to them'!!!*** >^..^< Angie >^..^< * AIM: MintyFresh311Kat * * ICQ: 108969301 * * MSN: evilstellarkittie * * : evil311kittie * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * STOP PUPPY MILLS: DON'T SHOP, ADOPT! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * get a free eBook at : www.douglasclegg.com/download.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * " Music's what I need to keep my sanity" * > 311 'Paradise' < * " I've found Jesus. He was behind the sofa the whole time. " * > from a pin I got at the mall < * "When I die I want to go peacefully, in my sleep, like grandfather. Not screaming, like the passengers in his car." * > i saw this somewhere< * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * contact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you. please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 I am kind of having a hard time being a vegetarian. I always was and still am a very picky eater. and for some reason I don't like to try new things. But I told myself that if I want to give this a shot I'll have to try new foods. So last night I had some Gimme Lean Ground 'meat' with my spaghetti. It was icky I know a lot of people recommend Gimme Lean but I couldn't eat it. And I keep hearing from my boyfriend (he's a chef and knows a lot of nutritional info) that vegetarians need special vitamins and he keeps telling me the only place to get protien is meat. He suggested I should eat meat only once in awhile. I rarely ate meat even before I decided to become a vegetarian (well except for those 2 months where I ate cheesesteaks 5 days a week.) But I really want to not eat any meat at all. But I also want to be healthy. I can't cook and even tho my boyf is a chef he works all the time. So I need suggestions. Like if you were or know someone who was a picky eater and then went vegetarian... Anything that you think could help me out. Thanx Also I found these chips today in Acme. They are Soya King brand Soy Chips. There was a bunch of different flavors like BBQ, taco and sour cream and onion. I don't think they are vegan because they have cheese powder. The ingrediants for the sour cream and onion chips are: Soybeans, corn starch, canola oil, dried onion, cheese powder (milk culture, salt, enzymes), salt, natural flavor, citric acid, dried wheat, parsley, caramel powder, lactic acid and chives. Just thought you would like to know. ***!!!Check out the NEW 311 cd 'From Chaos' !!!*** ***!!!'311, you wanna get next to them'!!!*** >^..^< Angie >^..^< * AIM: MintyFresh311Kat * * ICQ: 108969301 * * MSN: evilstellarkittie * * : evil311kittie * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * STOP PUPPY MILLS: DON'T SHOP, ADOPT! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * get a free eBook at : www.douglasclegg.com/download.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * " Music's what I need to keep my sanity " * > 311 'Paradise' < * " I've found Jesus. He was behind the sofa the whole time. " * > from a pin I got at the mall < * " When I die I want to go peacefully, in my sleep, like grandfather. Not screaming, like the passengers in his car. " * > i saw this somewhere< * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Angie (and all), Although I'm new to this group (yesterday!), I've been a vegetarian for over 30 years (since Woodstock). In the '60s there was a popular source book for vegetarians. I don't know if it's still in print, but it explains quite clearly how you can get all the protein you need by eating foods in combination. It's called " Diet for a Small Planet, " by Frances Moore Lappe (not certain of spelling). --Remember, millions of Hindus in India have been eating a vegetarian diet for centuries, without any problems. The other thing to bear in mind is that Americans eat way more protein than they need. Don't let your boyfriend bully you about this! As long as you don't force him to give up meat, he has no right to get in your face. And if he can't see that, it might be time to get a new boyfriend! After all, every healthy relationship should be based on respect. good luck! Nancy K [nkohn] Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:42 PM Re: Me and Soy Chips Angie... Hi, I'm new to the list, and was in the same place you are about 5 years ago. Try low-fat cottage cheese...unless you are vegan, this is a great source of protein. Also, try yogurt, if you like it. Beans, any beans have protein too. You do not need as much protein as you might think you do...I like chocolate soy milk too. I don't like the regular or the vanilla, so if I have milk its the chocolate one. There are LOTS of ways to get protein. These are just a few that helped me to get started. Nancy Angie wrote: > I am kind of having a hard time being a vegetarian. I always was and > still > am a very picky eater. and for some reason I don't like to try new > things. > But I told myself that if I want to give this a shot I'll have to try > new > foods. So last night I had some Gimme Lean Ground 'meat' with my > spaghetti. > It was icky I know a lot of people recommend Gimme Lean but I > couldn't > eat it. And I keep hearing from my boyfriend (he's a chef and knows a > lot > of nutritional info) that vegetarians need special vitamins and he > keeps > telling me the only place to get protien is meat. He suggested I > should eat > meat only once in awhile. I rarely ate meat even before I decided to > become > a vegetarian (well except for those 2 months where I ate cheesesteaks > 5 > days a week.) But I really want to not eat any meat at all. But I > also > want to be healthy. I can't cook and even tho my boyf is a chef he > works > all the time. So I need suggestions. Like if you were or know someone > who > was a picky eater and then went vegetarian... Anything that you think > could > help me out. Thanx > Also I found these chips today in Acme. They are Soya King brand Soy > Chips. > There was a bunch of different flavors like BBQ, taco and sour cream > and > onion. I don't think they are vegan because they have cheese powder. > The > ingrediants for the sour cream and onion chips are: > Soybeans, corn starch, canola oil, dried onion, cheese powder (milk > culture, salt, enzymes), salt, natural flavor, citric acid, dried > wheat, > parsley, caramel powder, lactic acid and chives. Just thought you > would > like to know. > > ***!!!Check out the NEW 311 cd 'From Chaos' !!!*** > ***!!!'311, you wanna get next to them'!!!*** > >^..^< Angie >^..^< > * AIM: MintyFresh311Kat * > * ICQ: 108969301 * > * MSN: evilstellarkittie * > * : evil311kittie * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > STOP PUPPY MILLS: DON'T SHOP, ADOPT! > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > get a free eBook at : > www.douglasclegg.com/download.htm > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * " Music's what I need to keep my sanity " * > > 311 'Paradise' < > > * " I've found Jesus. He was behind the sofa the whole time. " * > > from a pin I got at the mall < > > * " When I die I want to go peacefully, in my sleep, like grandfather. > Not > screaming, like the passengers in his car. " * > > i saw this somewhere< > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Good idea! (and that is the author) There is also Recipes for a Small Planet by Ellen Ewald, a sequel of sorts. My daughter ran off with my Diet for a Small Planet and I found a replacement on amazon.com This wasn't that long ago so you could probably find one there too. Kris --- " Lerner, Jeanie " <jyl wrote: <snip>It's called " Diet for a Small Planet, " by > Frances Moore Lappe > (not certain of spelling). --Remember, millions of Hindus > in India have been > eating a vegetarian diet for centuries, without any > problems. The other > thing to bear in mind is that Americans eat way more > protein than they need. Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 At 05:09 PM 8/28/01 -0400, you wrote: >I am kind of having a hard time being a vegetarian. I always was and still >am a very picky eater. and for some reason I don't like to try new things. Stick with it. There are tons of great veggie recipes that are simple to make. Once you've been off meat for awhile, you'll wonder why you ever ate it to begin with. I've been veggie for 15 years and the smell and thought of eating meat makes me ill, literally. >But I told myself that if I want to give this a shot I'll have to try new >foods. So last night I had some Gimme Lean Ground 'meat' with my spaghetti. >It was icky I know a lot of people recommend Gimme Lean but I couldn't >eat it. I've never had the Gimme Lean stuff (Never really liked sausage), but I've had chili, tacos, etc with the Morningstar Farms " burger " crumbles & had a hard time telling the difference between it & meat. >And I keep hearing from my boyfriend (he's a chef and knows a lot >of nutritional info) that vegetarians need special vitamins and he keeps >telling me the only place to get protien is meat. He suggested I should eat >meat only once in awhile. With all due respect, your boyfriend is a chef, not a nutritionist. He's completely wrong about the nutritional stuff. You can get all the vitamins, minerals, nutrients, proteins you need from veggies, without all the heart clogging fat & cholesterol. Here are some web sites with nutrition & other info. for vegetarians. http://www.webvoice.com/vegindex.html http://www.vrg.org/links/ http://www.vegweb.com/ >I rarely ate meat even before I decided to become >a vegetarian (well except for those 2 months where I ate cheesesteaks 5 >days a week.) But I really want to not eat any meat at all. This should make the transition to vegetarianism all the easier! I make great " cheesesteaks " with thinly sliced mushrooms & peppers. You can make anything you ate before without meat ( & it will be better.) I'll try to post some easy to make recipes today. Let us know what some of your favorite dishes are & we'll come up with some do-able recipes for you! Good Luck! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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