Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I am wondering what it would take for a person/family to be totally self-sufficient. What would you have to grow, how much space would it take, etc. Short of that, I am interested how much one normally needs to grow for all uses, like how many tomato plants per person, how much corn, that sort of thing. If anyone has seen any interesting discussion of this, I would appreciate the lead. Something else totally apart from this is a term I've seen used in mailing lists. When women refer to their husbands DH. Is that Dear Husband or something else. These are the kinds of things that I substitute for sleep, or a real life. SMILE Many thanks! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 It would depend on how many members are in your family, for instance there are three of us so I usually grow two tomato plants, one row of carrots and etc. I did have a small space in the yard last year but this year I did a container garden. I used organic soil, seeds and food. I think I like the small space in the yard better but as I recall last year I had a bug problem. It was pain trying to keep up with because I do work full time and have a special needs child. The containers are easy because they can be moved if needed. Suzanne --- HotMail <sseric57 wrote: > I am wondering what it would take for a > person/family to be totally self-sufficient. What > would you have to grow, how much space would it > take, etc. Short of that, I am interested how much > one normally needs to grow for all uses, like how > many tomato plants per person, how much corn, that > sort of thing. If anyone has seen any interesting > discussion of this, I would appreciate the lead. > > Something else totally apart from this is a term > I've seen used in mailing lists. When women refer > to their husbands DH. Is that Dear Husband or > something else. > > These are the kinds of things that I substitute for > sleep, or a real life. SMILE > > Many thanks! > > Eric > > > Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Eric what a great question, I am curious about this myself too ) Hopefully there are some people on here that are doing this. If you find the information somewhere else though could you come back and share it with us (or me at the very least)? Thanks!! -Abbey =) > " HotMail " <sseric57 > > > Just a Matter of Curiosity >Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:33:10 -0500 > >I am wondering what it would take for a person/family to be totally >self-sufficient. What would you have to grow, how much space would it >take, etc. Short of that, I am interested how much one normally needs to >grow for all uses, like how many tomato plants per person, how much corn, >that sort of thing. If anyone has seen any interesting discussion of this, >I would appreciate the lead. > >Something else totally apart from this is a term I've seen used in mailing >lists. When women refer to their husbands DH. Is that Dear Husband or >something else. > >These are the kinds of things that I substitute for sleep, or a real life. >SMILE > >Many thanks! > >Eric > > _______________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm & pgmarket=en-ca & RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com\ %2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 There are several books on this subject. The old 'have more plan' proved that a family could live on 5 acres if they new what they were doing. And this 5 acres actually included food animals as well, so a vegan would have more space to grow more crops or items to trade. Here's a few links to books on the subject: The Classic book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486209741/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/026-590710\ 3-3720410 More modern up-to-date book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/055298051X/qid=1073907646//ref=sr_\ 8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/102-7803173-3972900?v=glance & s=books & n=507846 And here's a link to a whole raft of books on the subject: http://www.loompanics.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scsto\ re+chrj2649ffd8f4d8+-c+scstore.cfg+-f+0+-C+Self%20Sufficiency --- HotMail <sseric57 wrote: > I am wondering what it would take for a > person/family to be totally self-sufficient. What > would you have to grow, how much space would it > take, etc. Short of that, I am interested how much > one normally needs to grow for all uses, like how > many tomato plants per person, how much corn, that > sort of thing. If anyone has seen any interesting > discussion of this, I would appreciate the lead. > > Something else totally apart from this is a term > I've seen used in mailing lists. When women refer > to their husbands DH. Is that Dear Husband or > something else. > > These are the kinds of things that I substitute for > sleep, or a real life. SMILE > > Many thanks! > > Eric > > > ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 This certainly reminds me of an urban trial at self-sufficiency. Does anyone remember " Good Neighbors " with Felicity Kendall and Richard Briars? Leeks in the front garden, cabbages and pigs in the back, nettle soup from greens gathered at the golf course and then, when being self-sufficient didn't quite work out, mooching off the neighbors next door, Jerry and Margo. In all seriousness, I knew at the time I was seeing these episodes, at least 25 yrs ago, that they had the right idea. As I grew into the notion of simplier living, I think about the Goods a great deal. > > There are several books on this subject. The old 'have > more plan' proved that a family could live on 5 acres > if they new what they were doing. And this 5 acres > actually included food animals as well, so a vegan > would have more space to grow more crops or items to > trade. > > Here's a few links to books on the subject: > > The Classic book: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486209741/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/026-590710 > 3-3720410 > > More modern up-to-date book: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/055298051X/qid=1073907646//ref=sr_ > 8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/102-7803173-3972900?v=glance & s=books & n=507846 > > And here's a link to a whole raft of books on the > subject: > http://www.loompanics.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scsto > re+chrj2649ffd8f4d8+-c+scstore.cfg+-f+0+-C+Self%20Sufficiency > > --- HotMail <sseric57 wrote: > I am > wondering what it would take for a > > person/family to be totally self-sufficient. What > > would you have to grow, how much space would it > > take, etc. Short of that, I am interested how much > > one normally needs to grow for all uses, like how > > many tomato plants per person, how much corn, that > > sort of thing. If anyone has seen any interesting > > discussion of this, I would appreciate the lead. > > > > Something else totally apart from this is a term > > I've seen used in mailing lists. When women refer > > to their husbands DH. Is that Dear Husband or > > something else. > > > > These are the kinds of things that I substitute for > > sleep, or a real life. SMILE > > > > Many thanks! > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > ______________________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 I just bought my folks a couple of " Good Neighbors " videos for christmas gifts. In the UK the show is called 'The Good Life' and is still shown on BBC from time to time. --- theladydragonfly wrote: > This certainly reminds me of an urban trial at > self-sufficiency. Does anyone remember " Good > Neighbors " with Felicity Kendall and Richard Briars? > Leeks in the front garden, cabbages and pigs in the > back, nettle soup from greens gathered at the golf > course and then, when being self-sufficient didn't > quite work out, mooching off the neighbors next > door, Jerry and Margo. > > In all seriousness, I knew at the time I was seeing > these episodes, at least 25 yrs ago, that they had > the right idea. As I grew into the notion of > simplier living, I think about the Goods a great > deal. > > > > > There are several books on this subject. The old > 'have > > more plan' proved that a family could live on 5 > acres > > if they new what they were doing. And this 5 acres > > actually included food animals as well, so a vegan > > would have more space to grow more crops or items > to > > trade. > > > > Here's a few links to books on the subject: > > > > The Classic book: > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486209741/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/026-590710 > > 3-3720410 > > > > More modern up-to-date book: > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/055298051X/qid=1073907646//ref=sr_ > > > 8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/102-7803173-3972900?v=glance & s=books & n=507846 > > > > And here's a link to a whole raft of books on the > > subject: > > > http://www.loompanics.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scsto > > > re+chrj2649ffd8f4d8+-c+scstore.cfg+-f+0+-C+Self%20Sufficiency > > > > --- HotMail <sseric57 wrote: > I am > > wondering what it would take for a > > > person/family to be totally self-sufficient. > What > > > would you have to grow, how much space would it > > > take, etc. Short of that, I am interested how > much > > > one normally needs to grow for all uses, like > how > > > many tomato plants per person, how much corn, > that > > > sort of thing. If anyone has seen any > interesting > > > discussion of this, I would appreciate the lead. > > > > > > Something else totally apart from this is a term > > > I've seen used in mailing lists. When women > refer > > > to their husbands DH. Is that Dear Husband or > > > something else. > > > > > > These are the kinds of things that I substitute > for > > > sleep, or a real life. SMILE > > > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 There is a book called The Good Life bye Helen and Scott Nearing which I believe is about a vegan or vegetarian couple who lived self-sufficiently for 60 years...it's worth a read... On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, [iso-8859-1] MrFalafel wrote: > > There are several books on this subject. The old 'have > more plan' proved that a family could live on 5 acres > if they new what they were doing. And this 5 acres > actually included food animals as well, so a vegan > would have more space to grow more crops or items to > trade. > > Here's a few links to books on the subject: > > The Classic book: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486209741/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/026-590710\ 3-3720410 > > More modern up-to-date book: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/055298051X/qid=1073907646//ref=sr_\ 8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/102-7803173-3972900?v=glance & s=books & n=507846 > > And here's a link to a whole raft of books on the > subject: > http://www.loompanics.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scsto\ re+chrj2649ffd8f4d8+-c+scstore.cfg+-f+0+-C+Self%20Sufficiency > > --- HotMail <sseric57 wrote: > I am > wondering what it would take for a > > person/family to be totally self-sufficient. What > > would you have to grow, how much space would it > > take, etc. Short of that, I am interested how much > > one normally needs to grow for all uses, like how > > many tomato plants per person, how much corn, that > > sort of thing. If anyone has seen any interesting > > discussion of this, I would appreciate the lead. > > > > Something else totally apart from this is a term > > I've seen used in mailing lists. When women refer > > to their husbands DH. Is that Dear Husband or > > something else. > > > > These are the kinds of things that I substitute for > > sleep, or a real life. SMILE > > > > Many thanks! > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > ______________________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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