ingredient questions- Sulfite 'free' vegan wines

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Im a sulfite sensitive asthmatic who loves wine but i don't get to drink it much .

unfortunately the truth is that all wines contain some sulfites because it is a by product of fermentation . Organic wines generally contain significantly fewer sulfites ,many (but not all ) contain no 'added' sulfites . it is my understanding and personal experience , that the red wines are generally lower in sulfites .I simply cant drink whites at all .I like Frey organic wines ; they are low to mid priced good quality wines that i can drink when i am breathing well without much trouble but really you should be able to buy a vegan organic wine from a local liquor store or better yet go into a specialty wine shop and don't be shy about stating your budget ;tell them of your sensitivity and preferences and let them direct you .try a deep full bodied red grape wine (less sulfites ) I don't know how severe your sensitivity is, but here is a little method I find works well for me (ymmv) before trying any new wine i let someone else have a few sips of the wine and then sit near enough to smell their breathe ;if the wine on their breathe effects my breathing- I don't even try it LOL ( I NEVER drink wine if i feel inflamed at all or WHAM I have sudden ,MASSIVE ,nebulizer required attacks )

here are a few links that may be helpful

 

http://www.ecowine.com/sulfites.html

http://www.winenet.com/sulfites.htm

http://www.freywine.com/freywine/

a friend shipped me wine from here for my 40th birthday and it was really good http://www.fitzpatrickwinery.com/ the prices are reasonable too with lots of choices in the 10-20 range . I think i may actually order from them .

I hope this helps ,

and luk if you discover a terrific new vegan wine

Teresa

 

 

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Abegael Drake

Monday, January 12, 2004 2:02 PM

Re: ingredient questions

Yah that is why I can't have wine. I know there is sulfite free wine but there is none at my local liquor store and I don't want to have to pay the expensive prices at a specialty store or mail order. Would you happen to know of any inexpensive sulfite free wine?>Shawna Marie Schwalenberg <shawnam> > >Re: ingredient questions>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:31:18 -0600 (CST)>>>Are you allergic to the wines because of sulfites? You can obtain>sulfite-free wines...>>On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Abegael Drake wrote:>> > Gloria, or anyone else reading this...if a recipe calls for port is >there> > anything else I could use instead? I am allergic to most wines.> >> > -Abbey>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply, you confirmed what I suspected (that all wine

contains sulfites to some degree due to naturally occuring sulfites, it is

the same with cheese). I have an extremely acute sensitivity and can't touch

any products that contain sulfites at all without a reaction which is why I

generally don't take the chance and was looking for a substitute.

 

Are you on the no sulfites ? Lots of nice knowledgeable people

there

 

thanks again!

-Abbey =)

 

 

> " outonalimb " <outonalimb

>

>

>Re: ingredient questions- Sulfite 'free' vegan

>wines

>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:01:23 -0500

>

>Im a sulfite sensitive asthmatic who loves wine but i don't get to

>drink it much .

> unfortunately the truth is that all wines contain some sulfites because

>it is a by product of fermentation . Organic wines generally contain

>significantly fewer sulfites ,many (but not all ) contain no 'added'

>sulfites . it is my understanding and personal experience , that the red

>wines are generally lower in sulfites .I simply cant drink whites at all .I

>like Frey organic wines ; they are low to mid priced good quality wines

>that i can drink when i am breathing well without much trouble but really

>you should be able to buy a vegan organic wine from a local liquor store

>or better yet go into a specialty wine shop and don't be shy about stating

>your budget ;tell them of your sensitivity and preferences and let them

>direct you .try a deep full bodied red grape wine (less sulfites ) I don't

>know how severe your sensitivity is, but here is a little method I find

>works well for me (ymmv) before trying any new wine i let someone else

>have a few sips of the wine and then sit near enough to smell their breathe

>;if the wine on their breathe effects my breathing- I don't even try it

>LOL ( I NEVER drink wine if i feel inflamed at all or WHAM I have sudden

>,MASSIVE ,nebulizer required attacks )

>here are a few links that may be helpful

> http://www.ecowine.com/sulfites.html

> http://www.winenet.com/sulfites.htm

>http://www.freywine.com/freywine/

>a friend shipped me wine from here for my 40th birthday and it was really

>good http://www.fitzpatrickwinery.com/ the prices are reasonable too with

>lots of choices in the 10-20 range . I think i may actually order from them

>.

>I hope this helps ,

>and luk if you discover a terrific new vegan wine

>Teresa

>

>

> -

> Abegael Drake

>

> Monday, January 12, 2004 2:02 PM

> Re: ingredient questions

>

>

> Yah that is why I can't have wine. I know there is sulfite free wine but

> there is none at my local liquor store and I don't want to have to pay

>the

> expensive prices at a specialty store or mail order. Would you happen to

> know of any inexpensive sulfite free wine?

>

>

> >Shawna Marie Schwalenberg <shawnam

> >

> >

> >Re: ingredient questions

> >Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:31:18 -0600 (CST)

> >

> >

> >Are you allergic to the wines because of sulfites? You can obtain

> >sulfite-free wines...

> >

> >On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Abegael Drake wrote:

> >

> > > Gloria, or anyone else reading this...if a recipe calls for port is

> >there

> > > anything else I could use instead? I am allergic to most wines.

> > >

> > > -Abbey

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

yeah Abbey, it REALLY stinks doesn't it? ( ha ha I know you get the stupid pun) LOL I was on the Samters Triad list a few years ago when i developed that and got top notch inf. that saved me from surgery and almost eliminated my polyps YEAH :)I have never joined the sulfite group though maybe i should . Ive been sulfite sensitive my whole life ( used to have anaphylactic shock reactions to lots of the 70s preservatives , dyes and fruits and veggies back when they used to put that stuff on everything ! ) but find that since i eat organic fresh whole foods its much better. Since I'm a vegan i don't eat cheese anyway the only thing I miss is white wine VBG are your fruit and veggie choices restricted ? I'm thankful that i can eat a really diverse diet without reacting .

teresa

 

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Thanks for your reply, you confirmed what I suspected (that all wine contains sulfites to some degree due to naturally occuring sulfites, it is the same with cheese). I have an extremely acute sensitivity and can't touch any products that contain sulfites at all without a reaction which is why I generally don't take the chance and was looking for a substitute.Are you on the no sulfites ? Lots of nice knowledgeable people there :)thanks again!-Abbey =)>>Im a sulfite sensitive asthmatic who loves wine but i don't get to >drink it much .> unfortunately the truth is that all wines contain some sulfites because

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Everything that has sulfites is out for me, that includes potatoes, corn,

and grapes. Most other fruits and veggies seem to be okay. I also think I

would be okay with organic potatoes, corn, and grapes and will be checking

that in a while (after I get this cooking thing under wraps). I was sick and

underweight for 22 years and despite many tests noone figured out what was

wrong with me. Finally an allergenist recognized my symptoms and suggested

msg and sulfite sensitivity. I tried for a year to cut out foods that were

labelled as containing sulfites but still reacted and so now I am on a

lifestyle change and completely cutting out all sulfite ingredients. Pectin

is a hard one as I love yogurt and find a noticeable difference in my

body's behavior when I go a week without it, it will probably be the last

product I cut out. Basically though I am cutting out ALL commercially

produced products except fruit juice (which does contain sulfites but I like

juice too much) and the odd slice of pizza when my bf orders it. One hard

thing has been corn ingredients as corn meal is an ingredient in a lot of

recipes.

 

I've learned so much this past month, I'm annoying the hell out of everyone

I know because I'm always talking about hidden msg and sulfites in the foods

they are eating lol

 

-Abbey =)

 

 

> " outonalimb " <outonalimb

>

>

>Re: ingredient questions- Sulfite 'free' vegan

>wines

>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:39:49 -0500

>

>yeah Abbey, it REALLY stinks doesn't it? ( ha ha I know you get the stupid

>pun) LOL I was on the Samters Triad list a few years ago when i developed

>that and got top notch inf. that saved me from surgery and almost

>eliminated my polyps YEAH :)I have never joined the sulfite group though

>maybe i should . Ive been sulfite sensitive my whole life ( used to have

>anaphylactic shock reactions to lots of the 70s preservatives , dyes and

>fruits and veggies back when they used to put that stuff on everything ! )

>but find that since i eat organic fresh whole foods its much better. Since

>I'm a vegan i don't eat cheese anyway the only thing I miss is white wine

>VBG are your fruit and veggie choices restricted ? I'm thankful that i can

>eat a really diverse diet without reacting .

>teresa

>

>-----

>

>

> Thanks for your reply, you confirmed what I suspected (that all wine

> contains sulfites to some degree due to naturally occuring sulfites, it

>is

> the same with cheese). I have an extremely acute sensitivity and can't

>touch

> any products that contain sulfites at all without a reaction which is

>why I

> generally don't take the chance and was looking for a substitute.

>

> Are you on the no sulfites ? Lots of nice knowledgeable

>people

> there

>

> thanks again!

> -Abbey =)

>

>

> >>Im a sulfite sensitive asthmatic who loves wine but i don't get

>to

> >drink it much .

> > unfortunately the truth is that all wines contain some sulfites

>because

>

[Guest guest]

There are some wines at our local co-op labled " sulfite free " ...

 

 

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, outonalimb wrote:

 

> Im a sulfite sensitive asthmatic who loves wine but i don't get to

drink it much .

> unfortunately the truth is that all wines contain some sulfites because it

is a by product of fermentation . Organic wines generally contain significantly

fewer sulfites ,many (but not all ) contain no 'added' sulfites . it is my

understanding and personal experience , that the red wines are generally lower

in sulfites .I simply cant drink whites at all .I like Frey organic wines ; they

are low to mid priced good quality wines that i can drink when i am breathing

well without much trouble but really you should be able to buy a vegan organic

wine from a local liquor store or better yet go into a specialty wine shop and

don't be shy about stating your budget ;tell them of your sensitivity and

preferences and let them direct you .try a deep full bodied red grape wine (less

sulfites ) I don't know how severe your sensitivity is, but here is a little

method I find works well for me (ymmv) before trying any new wine i let someone

else have a few sips of the wine and then sit near enough to smell their breathe

;if the wine on their breathe effects my breathing- I don't even try it LOL ( I

NEVER drink wine if i feel inflamed at all or WHAM I have sudden ,MASSIVE

,nebulizer required attacks )

> here are a few links that may be helpful

> http://www.ecowine.com/sulfites.html

> http://www.winenet.com/sulfites.htm

> http://www.freywine.com/freywine/

> a friend shipped me wine from here for my 40th birthday and it was really good

http://www.fitzpatrickwinery.com/ the prices are reasonable too with lots of

choices in the 10-20 range . I think i may actually order from them .

> I hope this helps ,

> and luk if you discover a terrific new vegan wine

> Teresa

>

>

> -

> Abegael Drake

>

> Monday, January 12, 2004 2:02 PM

> Re: ingredient questions

>

>

> Yah that is why I can't have wine. I know there is sulfite free wine but

> there is none at my local liquor store and I don't want to have to pay the

> expensive prices at a specialty store or mail order. Would you happen to

> know of any inexpensive sulfite free wine?

>

>

> >Shawna Marie Schwalenberg <shawnam

> >

> >

> >Re: ingredient questions

> >Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:31:18 -0600 (CST)

> >

> >

> >Are you allergic to the wines because of sulfites? You can obtain

> >sulfite-free wines...

> >

> >On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Abegael Drake wrote:

> >

> > > Gloria, or anyone else reading this...if a recipe calls for port is

> >there

> > > anything else I could use instead? I am allergic to most wines.

> > >

> > > -Abbey

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Shawna, this is a perfect example of "buyer beware " .

unless they have discovered some new way to ferment wine,all wines contain sulfites . Some organic wines are very low in sulfites and contain "no added " sulfites but the term 'sulfite free wine ' is pretty much a misnomer . I can drink some organic red wines but not all and it sounds like Abbey is much more sensitive than i am . If you know of a wine vineyard that produces truly sulfite free wines please luk as there are millions like us who would buy it there are many sites on the internet that explain why all wines contain sulfites here is a link to 1

http://www.ecowine.com/sulfites.html

 

hth's,

Teresa

 

 

----- There are some wines at our local co-op labled "sulfite free"...:///

 

 

[Guest guest]

Also something to note is that FDA regulations only require labelling of

products pertaining to sulfites if it is 10 parts per million or higher. So

sulfite free (or preservative free) could mean less than 10ppm which is why

in my case I have gone to a completely home made diet (or am on my way there

anyway). For most people 10ppm won't affect you at all and is not conidered

harmful.

 

-Abbey

 

 

> " outonalimb " <outonalimb

>

>

>Re: ingredient questions- Sulfite 'free' vegan

>wines

>Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:26:07 -0500

>

>Hi Shawna, this is a perfect example of " buyer beware " .

>unless they have discovered some new way to ferment wine,all wines contain

>sulfites . Some organic wines are very low in sulfites and contain " no

>added " sulfites but the term 'sulfite free wine ' is pretty much a

>misnomer . I can drink some organic red wines but not all and it sounds

>like Abbey is much more sensitive than i am . If you know of a wine

>vineyard that produces truly sulfite free wines please luk as there are

>millions like us who would buy it there are many sites on the internet

>that explain why all wines contain sulfites here is a link to 1

>http://www.ecowine.com/sulfites.html

>

>hth's,

>Teresa

>

> -----

>

>

>

> There are some wines at our local co-op labled " sulfite free " ...

>

> :///

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shoot, I forgot to look at the store last night..one of the wines I

remember saying that sulfites had been removed...if I'm remembering

correctly...I'll try to keep it in mind to check it when I go next...

 

 

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, outonalimb wrote:

 

> Hi Shawna, this is a perfect example of " buyer beware " .

> unless they have discovered some new way to ferment wine,all wines contain

sulfites . Some organic wines are very low in sulfites and contain " no added "

sulfites but the term 'sulfite free wine ' is pretty much a misnomer . I can

drink some organic red wines but not all and it sounds like Abbey is much more

sensitive than i am . If you know of a wine vineyard that produces truly sulfite

free wines please luk as there are millions like us who would buy it there

are many sites on the internet that explain why all wines contain sulfites here

is a link to 1

> http://www.ecowine.com/sulfites.html

>

> hth's,

> Teresa

>

> -----

>

>

>

> There are some wines at our local co-op labled " sulfite free " ...

>

> :///

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We lived in another country for a while where wine was unavailable so we made our own and we didn't add suffites. The suffites are probably preservatives so it'may not be a good idea to keep them too long. I need to get the recipe from dh and share it with you. In the meantime, here is a recipe I found on the net that turned out great!

 

2 - 12 oz. cans frozen grape juice (no preservatives)

4 cups sugar

1 pkg. dry yeast (if you don't have wine yeast, you can use baking yeast)

 

Mix in gallon jug. Fill with water to just below neck.Stretch a large balloon over neck and use a rubber band to secure it. Store at room temperature for 6 to 8 weeks

BettyShawna Marie Schwalenberg <shawnam wrote:

Shoot, I forgot to look at the store last night..one of the wines Iremember saying that sulfites had been removed...if I'm rememberingcorrectly...I'll try to keep it in mind to check it when I go next...On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, outonalimb wrote:> Hi Shawna, this is a perfect example of "buyer beware " .> unless they have discovered some new way to ferment wine,all wines contain sulfites . Some organic wines are very low in sulfites and contain "no added " sulfites but the term 'sulfite free wine ' is pretty much a misnomer . I can drink some organic red wines but not all and it sounds like Abbey is much more sensitive than i am . If you know of a wine vineyard that produces truly sulfite free wines please luk as there are millions like us who would buy it there are many sites on the internet that explain why all wines contain sulfites here is a link to 1 > http://www.ecowine.com/sulfites.html> > hth's,> Teresa

> > ----- > > > > There are some wines at our local co-op labled "sulfite free"...> > :///