Thanks & menus

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Kirsten,

 

Thanks for the information and advice. I will look up the cookbook.

 

Earnie

 

On Jun 17, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Kirsten Borges wrote:

 

> one of my favorite cookbooks that I make quite a few recipes from is

> " More Choices for a Healthy low-fat You " . I don't always cook

> vegan...but always vegetarian. My mother - in - law is allergic to

> milk so this cookbook has been a lifesaver. As I've tried more

> recipes I actually make them even when she is n! ot here visiting.

[Guest guest]

If you're looking at cookbooks, I can't say enough good things about

Nava Atlas's books. I have Vegetarian Express & the 5-Ingredient

Vegetarian Gourmet and I love them both. Not all recipes are vegan

but they are adaptable. She includes menus and is not afraid of

spices . I don't know why vegetarian food is often so bland. Once

on a flight I was served a two-compartment tray: one side had a pile

of steamed carrots, the other a pile of steamed celery. No lemon

juice, no pepper, nothing else. Made me wonder if the menu planner

had just broken up with a vegetarian or something.

 

Peace,

Diane

 

, Earnie Lumpkins <elumpkin@s...>

wrote:

> Thanks Eric. I will check McDougall's books at the library today.

> Earnie

>

> On Jun 17, 2005, at 7:31 AM, Eric wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Kirsten, those are good ideas.

 

Another suggestion is to substitute ground beef in regular recipes for a like amount of cooked brown rice. I find the texture remarkably similar. As I am blind, I can't say what it looks like...

 

Long time ago in my SAD eating days, I had a guest to dinner and made my cheater's gravy for mashed potatoes, opening a can of cream of mushroom soup. He told me months later that he just couldn't stand to look at his plate because it was so disgustingly green. We figured out I had probably opened cream of asparagus instead of mushroom soup. Oops!

 

Eric

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have been wondering if McDougall had good recipes or not. I have a friend who thought she would lose a lot of weight doing the McDougall diet. Of course not being even the least bit vegetarian, she couldn't stick with it. Anyhow, she said all the recipes were disgusting. I thought, "is it because she's used to meat and dairy, or are the recipes really gross?" She does eat at my house, but who knows if she really thinks we eat gross, you know.

 

MelanieEric <sseric57 wrote:

 

If you forget the claims and the hype he has gone to to sell, sell, sell, I think Dr. John McDougall has really great recipes. They are made with readily available ingredients and are very easy and I think very good. He and his wife have out many books you might find at the library or try a Google search on line. I have some files I could send off list if you like.

 

Eric

 

[Guest guest]

I go through and make a menu for the week. I usually try to have a main course, side dish or two, and that's about it. We've been doing this for two and a half years, totally vegan, and there's been no problem with protein. At first, I was afraid of the vitamin B12 lacking from vegan diets, so I obsessed over the nutritional info at the bottom of each recipe. I found that we were getting more than enough protein each day, so long as our calories were met. So I stopped worrying about it all and just make foods we all enjoy.

 

MelanieEarnie <elumpkin wrote:

I think at this point, my search is to be able to create interestingand balanced meals. Coming from a non vegetarian/vegan background, I am use to the SAD (think protein, starch, veggie) meal. How do you bring together the different partsof your all vegan meal? Do you have different courses?Earnie

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[Guest guest]

No, they are not disgusting. I am not vegan, not even vegetarian and

I found many good recipes in the McDougall site and cookbooks. I am

one who loves vegetables and desires to have vegetables before meats.

I am also one who loves cookbooks--all kinds--including

vegetarian/vegan cookbooks.

 

I think your friend is just ignorant of many different ways of eating,

especially vegetarian.

 

Earnie

 

 

On Jun 21, 2005, at 6:45 PM, melanie casto wrote:

> I have a friend who thought she would lose a lot of weight doing the

> McDougall diet.  Of course not being even the least bit vegetarian,

> she couldn't stick with it.  Anyhow, she said all the recipes were

> disgusting.  I thought, " is it because she's used to meat and dairy,

> or are the recipes really gross? "   She does eat at my house, but who

> knows if she really thinks we eat gross, you know.

>  

[Guest guest]

Melanie,

 

I should not have used the word ignorant of different ways of eating.

That is an ugly sounding word and I didn't mean it that way. She/he

may not understand the many different cultures and ways of eating.

 

Earnie

 

 

No, they are not disgusting. I am not vegan, not even vegetarian and

I found many good recipes in the McDougall site and cookbooks. I am

one who loves vegetables and desires to have vegetables before meats.

I am also one who loves cookbooks--all kinds--including

vegetarian/vegan cookbooks.

 

I think your friend is just ignorant of many different ways of eating,

especially vegetarian.

 

Earnie

 

 

On Jun 21, 2005, at 6:45 PM, melanie casto wrote:

> I have a friend who thought she would lose a lot of weight doing the

> McDougall diet.  Of course not being even the least bit vegetarian,

> she couldn't stick with it.  Anyhow, she said all the recipes were

> disgusting.  I thought, " is it because she's used to meat and dairy,

> or are the recipes really gross? "   She does eat at my house, but who

> knows if she really thinks we eat gross, you know.

>  

[Guest guest]

Melanie,

I use McDougall all the time. I like most of the recipes in his books. I don't use them for weight lose specifically but because I like them. I do "tweak" them to my tastes but then I do that with almost every recipe I use.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

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melanie casto

Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:45 PM

Re: Thanks & menus

 

I have been wondering if McDougall had good recipes or not. I have a friend who thought she would lose a lot of weight doing the McDougall diet. Of course not being even the least bit vegetarian, she couldn't stick with it. Anyhow, she said all the recipes were disgusting. I thought, "is it because she's used to meat and dairy, or are the recipes really gross?" She does eat at my house, but who knows if she really thinks we eat gross, you know.

 

Melanie

[Guest guest]

I found that we were getting more than enough protein each day, so long

as our calories were met.

 

If you are getting enough protein in your diet, it is more likely

because you are getting enough of the 8 essential amino acids that your

body does not create on its own than anything else. And for those who

are not sure if they are getting all 8 of the essential amino acids in

their diet, just start integrating hemp seed into your diet. Hemp seed

contains not only all 8 of the essential amino acids that you must get

on a regular basis for protein synthesis, but it also contains omega 3

and 6 fatty acids.

 

Hemp Seed Protein

 

Hemp seeds have the most complete edible and

usable protein in the vegetable kingdom. Although

soybeans are said to contain more, much of it is

unusable by the human body. Proteins serve such

functions as acting as enzymes, antibodies, and

the structural components of tissues, hormones, and

blood protein. The main function of dietary

protein is to supply the building blocks called amino acids so

that they can be used to reconstruct other

proteins needed for the growth and maintenance of body

tissue.

 

Proteins are often classified as structural

(fibrous) or biologically active (globular). Structural proteins

include collagen, keratin, and fibrinogen, which

are the main constitutents of bones, skin, hair,

ligaments, feathers, and hooves! Biologically

active proteins are mainly globulins and include such

things as hormones, hemoglobin, antibodies

(immunoglobulins), and enzymes. Although the body can

make globular proteins out of any protein that

enters the body, it is much more efficient for the body to

make globulins out of globular starting material.

 

What makes globular proteins so special is that

they are precursors to some of the most vital

chemicals in the body:

 

hormones (which regulate all the body

processes);

hemoglobin (which transports oxygen, carbon

dioxide, and nitric oxide);

enzymes (which catalyze and control

biochemical reactions);

antibodies (immunoglobulins which fend off

invading bacteria, viruses, and other pathogens, as

well as toxins or antigens as they enter the

body).

 

The total protein content of hemp seed is about

65% of the globular protein edestin, which closely

resembles the globulin found in human blood

plasma. It is easily digested, absorbed, and utilized by

humans and vital to maintaining a healthy immune

system. Edestin has the unique ability to stimulate

the manufacture of antibodies against invasive

agents and is nearly phosphorus-free, which is important

for kidney ailments. The other important protein

in hemp seed is albumin, which is also a highly

digestible protein because of its globular shape.

Albumin is a major free radical scavenger and is the

industry standard for protein quality evaluation.

 

Hemp protein contains all 21 known amino acids,

including the 8 essential ones adult bodies cannot

produce. Proteins are considered complete when

they contain all the essential amino acids in sufficient

quantities and ratios to meet the body's needs.

The following are the 21 most common amino acids,

with the 8 essential ones in bold:

 

alanine

arginine

aspargine

aspartic acid

cysteine

glutamic acid

glutamine

glycine

histidine

isoleucine

leucine

lysine

methionine

phenylalanine

proline

serine

taurine

threonine

tryptophan

tyrosine

valine

taurine (considered essential for premature

babies)

histidine (considered essential for children,

but not for adults)

 

Proteins are potential allergens, which also

include soy, dairy, or peanut proteins. However, no hemp

seed allergies have ever been reported. Several

oilseeds also contain anti-nutritional factors; for

example, the trypsin inhibitors in soybeans; but

none of these factors are known to occur in hemp

seeds. Hemp seeds also contain fewer

oligosaccharides, present in peas and beans and which cause

intestinal gas. A significant number of people are

becoming allergic to soy products, possibly because

most are from genetically engineered crops or

grown with the use of chemicals. On the other hand,

because hemp seed does not require chemicals or

genetic alteration, it rarely, if ever, causes

sensitivity.

 

Hemp seed protein can supply any diet with a

vegetarian source of essential fatty acids, antioxidants,

vitamins, minerals, fibre, chlorophyll, and a

complete, balanced gluten-free source of the essential

amino acids.

 

Edestin

 

History reveals the importance of hemp seed

protein.

 

In 1881, a German scientist discovered that

hemp seed contained edestin, its main protein.

In the early 20th century, edestin was one of

the most studied proteins in both science and

industry.

In 1909, the nature of enzymes became known

when a British scientist discovered the protein

enzyme protease in hempseed. He called it

vegetable trypsin. Today, enzymes are indispensible

to the food ingredient industry and are used

to make many foods.

In 1915, the Journal of Biological Chemistry

discussed edestin at length, presenting ideas that

would later form the basis for protein

complementarity and combining, a popular concept among

vegetarians. A later issue published a

vegetable protein study. In it, edestin was considered

suitable as a sole protein source for

animals: “Protein feeding in the future will be based rather on

the amino acid makeup than on the results of

past feeding experiments.” The study also stated

that “the relatively large amounts of lysine

present in the…hempseed…is especially noteworthy.”

In 1932, a patent was issued for a gluing

process using hempseed protein. Today, milk protein is

used in adhesives.

In 1937, the same scientists who first spun

vegetable protein for food issued a patent using hemp

seed protein to make spun filaments, films,

and threads that are similar to silk and wool.

 

Protein Content Compared

 

Soybeans

35.0%

Hemp seed shelled

31.0%

Hamburger beef

27.1%

Blue fish

26.0%

Cheddar cheese

23.5%

Chicken

23.5%

Hempseed -- whole

23.0%

Almonds

18.3%

Wheat flour

13.3%

Egg

12.0%

Tofu

08.0%

Rice

07.5%

Skimmed milk

03.7%

 

 

Essential Amino Acids Compared

 

Essential

Amino Acid

Hemp

Seed

Egg

Whites

Tofu

Human

Milk

Cow's

Milk

Leucine

18.80

9.50

5.9

2.78

3.44

Lysine

9.10

6.48

5.7

3.12

2.72

Threonine

10.30

4.77

3.7

0.62

1.61

Phen + Tyro

21.90

6.89

4.8

1.21

1.70

Valine

14.20

8.42

4.3

1.39

2.40

Meth + Cyst

9.60

4.20

1.0

0.65

0.86

Isoleucine

11.40

6.98

4.1

0.75

2.23

Tryptophan

3.90

1.64

1.2

0.23

0.49

 

 

(See more information about proteins on this

website.)

 

Hemp Protein Powders

 

When purchasing a hemp protein powder, look for a

brand that supplies at least 50% protein by weight

and supplying 15 grams of protein per 30 gram

serving. While hemp protein may contain more total fat

than many other protein powders, it should be

stressed that almost all of this fat comes from the

essential polyunsaturated fatty acids Omega-6 and

Omega-3. Hemp is recognized by the World Health

Organization (WHO) as having what is considered to

be an optimal 3:1 balance of omega 6 to omega 3

essential fatty acids.

 

Unlike hemp protein powder, many soy isolate

powders that are not labeled organic are often processed

with hexane, a petroleum solvent that has adverse

impacts on the environment as well as on human

health. The resulting hexane-processed soy is

utilized in many soy protein powders, cereals, and bars.

Hemp protein powder is produced usuing only

cold-pressed techniques and does not involve the use of

hexane in the production process. It is the same

technique that ensures valuable vitamins and minerals

are not destroyed during processing.

 

Perhaps the most important difference between soy

and hemp seed protein powders is that the

non-organic soybeans used in many soy products are

often derived from genetically modified soybeans.

Hemp is never genetically modified. Hemp foods

also have low environmental impacts because growing

hemp seeds does not require the addition of

herbicides or pesticides.

 

A pound of hemp seed would provide all the

protein, essential fatty acids, and dietary fiber necessary for

human survival for two weeks. For this reason it

is used in many parts of the world for treating

malnourishment. How far does a pound of meat go?

 

(Taken from:)

http://www.innvista.com/health/hemp/seedprot.htm

 

 

Corey...

[Guest guest]

Earnie,

 

You said my friend may be ignorant to different ways of eating, you may very well be right!! She is slightly on the ignorant side, and a little set in her ways. But you know, when you only know one person in the entire world (at that time) that had ever tried McDougalls plan, and they said it was really disgusting, you tend to wonder.

 

Thank you for letting me know the recipes are good. That helps me a lot.

 

MelanieEarnie Lumpkins <elumpkin wrote:

No, they are not disgusting. I am not vegan, not even vegetarian and I found many good recipes in the McDougall site and cookbooks. I am one who loves vegetables and desires to have vegetables before meats. I am also one who loves cookbooks--all kinds--including vegetarian/vegan cookbooks.I think your friend is just ignorant of many different ways of eating, especially vegetarian.Earnie

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[Guest guest]

It is okay. You are possibly correct. Ignorant is a good word for it. It means she's not stupid, just uninformed.

 

MelanieEarnie Lumpkins <elumpkin wrote:

Melanie,I should not have used the word ignorant of different ways of eating. That is an ugly sounding word and I didn't mean it that way. She/he may not understand the many different cultures and ways of eating.Earnie

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