Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 In a message dated 5/14/04 9:25:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Heartwork writes: I agree. Why they can't call them omnivores who sometimes detox I don't know. cuz its not a hip soundbite... its all about the packaging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 In a message dated 5/14/04 9:53:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, simonpjones writes: Lucky not too many people crave eating humans...we could be in real trouble then! i dunno..might do the world a heap of good if we started munchin on each other we seem to be real good at killin one another anyways... fraggle *soylent green is people,..ITS PEOPLE!!* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Aissa > people shouldn't be known as " sometimes vegetarians " but just as meat > eaters who eat a lot of vegetables. I guess using the logic of the article, you could claim that Myra Hindley was " sometimes not a murderer " ! Well... she only murdered ocassionally, after all! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I agree. Why they can't call them omnivores who sometimes detox I don't know. Jo flexitarians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Vegetarian and meat-eating has to be worlds apart by defintion surly. If someone craves meat, then maybe they should seek help from the friendly vegan and leave the poor animals alone. Lucky not too many people crave eating humans...we could be in real trouble then! - " Aissa Cockroft " <aissacockroft Friday, May 14, 2004 4:24 AM flexitarians > I heard about this article about so called " flexitarians " also known > as " sometimes vegetarians " defined as " vegetarians who occasionally > eat meat " the full article is here: > http://content.health.msn.com/content/Article/86/99210.htm > > Personally this article annoyed me a lot, the whole definition of a > vegetarian is someone who doesn't eat meat AT ALL, whether it be for > ethical reasons, environmental reasons, health reasons or whatever > else, not that I'm saying that people eating less meat is a bad > thing, of course it isn't, it's the just the term " flexitarian " or > worse " sometimes vegetarian " is very annoying and insulting, making > it look like vegan/vegetarian diets are just some kind of fad that > can be broken any time you crave meat, as someone else said these > people shouldn't be known as " sometimes vegetarians " but just as meat > eaters who eat a lot of vegetables. > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I hear that from people soo often. Oh I am a vegetarian, or they one someone who is, but they eat chicken or fish because they need the protein. I just give them a look, like okay, not sure how you are qualified as a vegetarian, but whatever floats your boat. I used to work with a girl who said she was a vegan. She was raised vegetarian, and was lactose intolerant. except she would eat the stuff in the green room (i work at a theatre), which consisted of cookies, pasteries, donuts, those types of things. she would put soy milk in her coffee, and sugar that was there. she had a wool coat, and she wanted to buy another one, and then she told me that she had chicken about a month ago because she was so hungry and there was nothing there for her to eat. I thought that it was only high school that people liked to use labels....ones they weren't, or others weren't. -Samantha "sometimes not a murderer"....I like that quote peterPeter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Aissa> people shouldn't be known as "sometimes vegetarians" but just as meat> eaters who eat a lot of vegetables.I guess using the logic of the article, you could claim that Myra Hindleywas "sometimes not a murderer"! Well... she only murdered ocassionally,after all!BBPeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 - EBbrewpunx Friday, May 14, 2004 6:04 PM Re: flexitarians In a message dated 5/14/04 9:53:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, simonpjones writes: i dunno..might do the world a heap of good if we started munchin on each otherwe seem to be real good at killin one another anyways...> True what a waste of meat for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 I take articles like that as seriously as the people they are written about...not a lot! The Valley Vegan....Aissa Cockroft <aissacockroft wrote: I heard about this article about so called "flexitarians" also known as "sometimes vegetarians" defined as "vegetarians who occasionally eat meat" the full article is here: http://content.health.msn.com/content/Article/86/99210.htmPersonally this article annoyed me a lot, the whole definition of a vegetarian is someone who doesn't eat meat AT ALL, whether it be for ethical reasons, environmental reasons, health reasons or whatever else, not that I'm saying that people eating less meat is a bad thing, of course it isn't, it's the just the term "flexitarian" or worse "sometimes vegetarian" is very annoying and insulting, making it look like vegan/vegetarian diets are just some kind of fad that can be broken any time you crave meat, as someone else said these people shouldn't be known as "sometimes vegetarians" but just as meat eaters who eat a lot of vegetables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 *soylent green is people,..ITS PEOPLE!!* soylent green, sloppy joes, gummi bears, doc martens,.... >EBbrewpunx > > >Re: flexitarians >Fri, 14 May 2004 13:04:17 EDT > >In a message dated 5/14/04 9:53:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >simonpjones writes: > > Lucky not too many people crave > > eating humans...we could be in real trouble then! > > >i dunno..might do the world a heap of good if we started munchin on each >other >we seem to be real good at killin one another anyways... >fraggle >*soylent green is people,..ITS PEOPLE!!* Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Yvonne, I hope my point didn't make you uncomfortable. Hopefully, varied viewpoints add to our understanding of why we make the choices we do. For you, here is one of my favorite meals: COSTA RICAN PAPAS Y FRIJOLES Preparation Time: 30 minutes Cooking Time: 30 minutes Servings: 4 ½ cup water 1 onion, chopped ½ teaspoon bottled minced garlic 1 can green chiles Can tomatoes ¼ cup, packed, finely chopped cilantro several twists of freshly ground pepper 4 cups, packed, chopped greens (chard, spinach, kale, etc.) 3 cups chunked cooked potatoes (see hint) 1 15 ounce can black beans, drained and rinsed dash or two of hot pepper sauce (optional) Place the water in a large nonstick frying pan. Add onion, garlic and chiles. Cook, stirring occasionally, until onion is very soft, about 10 minutes. Add a little more water if necessary to keep onion from sticking to the pan. Add tomatoes, cilantro and pepper. Cook, uncovered, stirring occasionally, for 15 minutes. Add potatoes and beans to the cooked tomato mixture. Cook and stir for 3 minutes. Stir in greens and cook for an additional 2 minutes. Add hot pepper sauce to taste. This is a McDougall recipe I adapted to my taste and convenience. I use the bagged spinach and adding it in as I reheat the potatoes and beans with the sauce is sufficient to wilt the greens to my taste without making them the mush you get from cans, although ina pinch you could certainly use a can or frozen spinach or other greens in this, like mustard, turnip, etc. I forget the brand, but there are vegan greens in cans at the supermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 ditto what everyone one else said. But Yvonne, please don't assume that just b/c someone's vegan they can't have fun! peace, geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 I'm in the same boat with you. I'm on this list just to get ideas because my MIL is vegan. I only cook vegetarian at home...but I do eat meat when I go out...or if I go to someone's house and it is served there. There are types of meat I don't eat....but I definately can't be called a full time vegetarian. So if they don't want you here they should kick me off too. KirstenYvonne <yummy1 wrote: I'm here for vegan recipes. I'm not vegan nor am I vegetarian. My boyfriend is vegan and I joined this list so I could find recipes to make for us to eat when we are together. Our Little Luci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Yvonne, I am not a vegetarian nor a vegan and I also came here for the recipes, menu suggestions and basic information. While I don't post often (mostly lurk), I did introduce myself as above and the people here haven't thrown me off yet. They have been welcoming and helpful. Earnie On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Yvonne wrote: > I'm here for vegan recipes. I'm not vegan nor am I vegetarian. My > boyfriend is vegan and I joined this list so I could find recipes to > make for us to eat when we are together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 My vote..... enough talk about labels. We each have our own view. Nobody is going to be asked to leave this group because they are not strict vegans... as we can see many of us aren't. Now, as others have tried to do, let's get back to talking food... Anyone have a good recipe for tempeh? On 7/7/05, Earnie Lumpkins <elumpkin wrote: > > Yvonne, > > I am not a vegetarian nor a vegan and I also came here for the recipes, > menu suggestions and basic information. While I don't post often > (mostly lurk), I did introduce myself as above and the people here > haven't thrown me off yet. They have been welcoming and helpful. > > Earnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 98% of my friends are omnivore aswell as 100% of my family. I'm not saying and would never say that I'm better than anyone for being vegan. I don't lecture people or try to change how they eat because I wouldn't want anyone to do it to me. I let people try my vegan food and I tell them about it if they ask. I think its great that people have an interest in vegetarianism regardless of if they still eat meat cause I went back and forth between vegetarian and omnivore several times before going straight to vegan. All I said was " Flexitarian " as a term annoys me. It does and I won't change that. Sorry for expressing my opinions I'll fade back to lurking now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 At 07:25 PM 7/5/2005 -0700, Colleen wrote: > >The use of such a term annoys me... they are omnivores trying to puff >up their shirts. It does sound silly, but at least it distinguishes us from omnivores who eat a veg meal now and again. If it gains greater acceptance, maybe well-meaning relatives, waitstaff, etc. will learn that veg*ns don't eat everything " flexitarians " do. As one poster mentioned, it gets people thinking about what they eat, which can be a good thing. On a decidedly non-flexitarian note, two books arrived in the mail yesterday; " Professional Vegetarian Cooking " by Ken Bergeron (a brilliant vegan chef), and Steven Raichlen's " High Flavor, Low Fat Vegetarian Cooking " . Yay! I haven't had a chance to peruse them thoroughly, but if you have any requests, just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 At 05:25 PM 7/6/2005 -0400, Yvonne wrote: >I'm an omnivore. I hope its okay that I am on this list. Sure, but are you a flexitarian? Seriously, when I approve memberships, I don't inquire into dietary preferences, nor do I care the least bit. The list is for the sharing of vegan/vegetarian recipes. If you have any to share, you're certainly welcome to do so. If not, you're welcome to lurk and, one hopes, get some good meal ideas. [...] > I thought the flexitarian term was cute. Whatever floats your boat. [...] > Do people always have to be serious? Can one not have fun? Non sequitur. It may be helpful to understand that for many veg*ans, labels can be a hot button. Omnivores generally haven't experienced the awkwardness of having to turn down a fish entree because a well-intended but misguided host has a " vegetarian " friend who eats fish. They don't have to worry about a waitperson assuring them the soup was veg*an, only to later learn it was made with beef broth, or purchasing a delightful looking frozen vegetable brioche, only to find that somewhere down in the ingredients, somebody sneaked meat in! These things are decidedly un-fun and occur because some non-veg*ans insist on calling themselves vegetarian, thereby muddying the definition. The term 'flexitarian' has been bandied about for about a year now. If it, or something similar, gain general acceptance, perhaps we'll enjoy better communication in these kinds of matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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