Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2005 Namaste Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans waffle between: A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls, B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so casual comments about anti-Veganism, C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner for like-minded folks, D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with their Tofurkeys, E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans, F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards for " dessert " G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in. H) Not going to these gatherings and fasting. That's right! I said FASTING. I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has been a tradition since 1998. I hope some list members will be joining me on this day of torture, death, greed, selfishness and debauchery by doing the same. My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the MILLIONS of animals that are tortured and abused, then slaughtered just for this one (1) day alone in the U.S. I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run from Wednesday until Sunday. Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful way to clean out the body as far as health is concerned. Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul. Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to the higher being.' It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This was copied from watching animals when they are ill. They either eat greens or nothing at all. Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of protest. Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across. My fasting tradition has came about when I could no longer go to family gatherings for this 'holiday' and sit around a table infested with dead carcass and by-products. Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we traipsed to our building of worship only to march back to a home full of death, abuse and chemical irresponsibility. Previous years has folks pointing out that this is a time for family and friends getting-together to show their love and thankfulness. But, who needs a " Hallmark " holiday for this occasion? We can get together the other 364 days of the year without the excuse of a 'holiday.' I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded folks for a holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon this holiday as a festive occasion. Why? Because it also represents false facts throughout American history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery and near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name of 'god.' Recent findings are coming out that there was no turkey - or even any kind of 'meat' - at the dinner; only fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains. Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that after these dinners, the male attendees would gather together in front of a television set to watch the bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving the women (slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and watch after the children. You are invited and welcome to join my discussion list: SoFlaVegans/ Starting this weekend there will appear articles, information and guides about the history and hypocrisy of ThanXgiving, as well as how to cope with the upcoming holidays. Additionally, you will find ways to fast safely and wisely. For those who wish to " celebrate " and not fast, you will find literally hundreds of recipes and tips, as well! As we ready ourselves for Fur-Free Friday, I wish everyone who is willing to " take the plunge " the best of luck in a successful and quick fast, and may all of our efforts pay off! = = = = = = = = = = Here are my other discussion lists that also contain tons of information in each of their categories – DAILY!!! Please research the message archives for information you are seeking and what you have missed: Everything Yoga! Yoga-With-Nancy/ American Sign Language and Deaf Culture SignSoFla/ Alternative Schooling Within The School System SoFlaSchools/ Om Shanti Fidyl Live Simply So That Others May Simply Live Yoga-With-Nancy/ SignSoFla/ SoFlaVegans/ SoFlaSchools/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 On Tue, November 15, 2005 1:09 am, fidyl said: > An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2005 > > Namaste > > Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans waffle between: > > A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls, <snip> > G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in. My chosen action: To have Thanksgiving with my friends and family and suspend judgment of them so that I can relate to them as fellow humans. Wish you well on your fast. serene -- Religion is like wine: http://jhuger.com My food blog: http://www.reluctantvegan.com My online journal: http://serenejournal.livejournal.com -- Religion is like wine: http://jhuger.com My food blog: http://www.reluctantvegan.com My online journal: http://serenejournal.livejournal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Thank you for the posting. Quite illuminating, eye-opening and > thought-provoking. Wouldn't it be nice to combine the spirit of > community (be it family members or otherwise) with a positive, > truly humble, appreciative and compassionate celebration of > nature's bounty without having to be reminded of how humans > mistreat each other and other living creatures. Now, that would be > worthy of a year-long thanksgiving. Ron Landskroner > > > > fidyl <fidyl > > Nov 15, 2005 4:09 AM > > > > An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2005 > > > > An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2005 > > > > Namaste > > > > Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans > > waffle between: > > > > A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through > > hours > > of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not > > chewing – these abused souls, > > B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so > > casual > > comments about anti-Veganism, > > C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner for > > like-minded folks, > > D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with > > their > > Tofurkeys, > > E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the > > feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans, > > F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards for " dessert " > > G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in. > > H) Not going to these gatherings and fasting. > > > > That's right! I said FASTING. > > I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has been a > > tradition > > since 1998. > > I hope some list members will be joining me on this day of torture, > > death, greed, selfishness and debauchery by doing the same. > > > > My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the MILLIONS of > > animals > > that are tortured and abused, then slaughtered just for this one > > (1) > > day alone in the U.S. > > > > I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run from Wednesday > > until Sunday. > > > > Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful way to clean > > out the body as far as health is concerned. > > > > Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul. > > > > Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to the higher being.' > > > > It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This was copied > > from > > watching animals when they are ill. They either eat greens or > > nothing > > at all. > > > > Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of protest. > > Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across. > > > > My fasting tradition has came about when I could no longer go to > > family gatherings for this 'holiday' and sit around a table > > infested > > with dead carcass and by-products. > > Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we traipsed to our > > building of worship only to march back to a home full of death, > > abuse and chemical irresponsibility. > > > > Previous years has folks pointing out that this is a time for > > family > > and friends getting-together to show their love and thankfulness. > > But, who needs a " Hallmark " holiday for this occasion? > > We can get together the other 364 days of the year without the > > excuse > > of a 'holiday.' > > > > I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded folks for a > > holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon this holiday as a > > festive > > occasion. Why? Because it also represents false facts throughout > > American history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery and > > near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name of 'god.' Recent > > findings are coming out that there was no turkey - or even any kind > > of 'meat' - at the dinner; only fruits, vegetables, nuts and > > grains. > > > > Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that after these > > dinners, the male attendees would gather together in front of a > > television set to watch the bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving > > the women (slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and watch > > after the children. > > > > You are invited and welcome to join my discussion list: > > SoFlaVegans/ > > > > Starting this weekend there will appear articles, information and > > guides about the history and hypocrisy of ThanXgiving, as well as > > how > > to cope with the upcoming holidays. > > Additionally, you will find ways to fast safely and wisely. > > For those who wish to " celebrate " and not fast, you will find > > literally hundreds of recipes and tips, as well! > > > > As we ready ourselves for Fur-Free Friday, I wish everyone who is > > willing to " take the plunge " the best of luck in a successful and > > quick fast, and may all of our efforts pay off! > > > > = = = = = = = = = = > > > > Here are my other discussion lists that also contain tons of > > information in each of their categories – DAILY!!! > > Please research the message archives for information you are > > seeking > > and what you have missed: > > > > Everything Yoga! > > Yoga-With-Nancy/ > > > > American Sign Language and Deaf Culture > > SignSoFla/ > > > > Alternative Schooling Within The School System > > SoFlaSchools/ > > > > Om Shanti > > > > Fidyl > > Live Simply So That > > Others May Simply Live > > Yoga-With-Nancy/ > > SignSoFla/ > > SoFlaVegans/ > > SoFlaSchools/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Fidyl wrote: "Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans waffle between:A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls...." I understand that the e-mail was intended to lead to a positive message about fasting. But I've been vegan for five years precisely because I care about animals, and when I read the above, I wanted to say "Speak for yourself!" There are certainly times I feel angry with family and friends because they eat meat, dairy, & eggs and therefore participate, to my mind so clearly, in the suffering of animals. But I do not dread the holidays. I focus instead on enjoying -- and do enjoy! -- the time with family and friends. I am happy when they see me enjoying my vegan dishes, and I am especially happy when they choose to share a vegan dish with me. I think showing that I can be happy as a vegan at a holiday dinner is much more likely to persuade people to consider reducing their own animal consumption -- and thus to help animals -- than if I let myself wallow in anger and even sadness. Peace, Thea FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi Fidyl thanks for talking about fasting, this is informative and something to think about. I send you peace and courage on your fasting and respect you for doing so. -- In , " fidyl " <fidyl> wrote: > > An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2005 > > Namaste > > Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans > waffle between: > > A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours > of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not > chewing – these abused souls, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 My two cent. I plan on preparing 1-2 vegan yummy dishes and share them with my meat-eater friend at the table. This is one great opportunity get my friends to try some vegan food. Hopfully, they'll end the holiday with possitive thought about veganism. Cheer! Thea Langsam <thea_langsamnpauthor, Subject: Re: An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2005Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:00:45 -0800 (PST) Fidyl wrote: "Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans waffle between:A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls...." I understand that the e-mail was intended to lead to a positive message about fasting. But I've been vegan for five years precisely because I care about animals, and when I read the above, I wanted to say "Speak for yourself!" There are certainly times I feel angry with family and friends because they eat meat, dairy, & eggs and therefore participate, to my mind so clearly, in the suffering of animals. But I do not dread the holidays. I focus instead on enjoying -- and do enjoy! -- the time with family and friends. I am happy when they see me enjoying my vegan dishes, and I am especially happy when they choose to share a vegan dish with me. I think showing that I can be happy as a vegan at a holiday dinner is much more likely to persuade people to consider reducing their own animal consumption -- and thus to help animals -- than if I let myself wallow in anger and even sadness. Peace, Thea FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * VOTE TODAY IN OUR BEST OF VEG 2005 SURVEY! Tell us the best places to eat veg in the Bay Area... Ya never know, maybe you'll win the Sun Flour Baking Cookie Basket or other great prizes! http://www.bayareaveg.org/vote* - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * BAY AREA VEGETARIANS (BAV) is a non-profit 501 ©(3) community organization for veggies to network, find support and promote veg*nism.Events Calendar - http://bayareaveg.org/eventsNewsletter - http://bayareaveg.org/newsVeg Mentor Program - http://bayareaveg.org/mentorUltimate Guide - http://bayareaveg.org/ug Veg Food Finder - http://www.bayareaveg.org/finderCharter & Post Guidelines - http://bayareaveg.org/charterCompassionate Living Program - http://www.bayareaveg.org/cl____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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