Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Simon, (and all the team here) Could you please give the citation for the text you quoted? It sounds similar to the one at Genesis 1:29 which was directed to humans and would, therefore, exclude the carnivorous animals, (although as we're all well aware, all animal life depends on plant life ultimately however they get it, ie directly or by eating the intestines of herbivores), thus satisfying both the points made about this text. Could be that it isn't a good translation too. (Actually, it would be better to cite ALL your quotations - carries a lot more weight that way and is much easier to reference). Anyway, the Bible actually doesn't comment much on diet. Some say it is anti-vegetarian and some others quote passages out of context to prove that it actively promotes it, but the truth is, it barely touches on the subject of diet, esp where veggie issues are concerned, but leaves that sort of thing to the individual.=) As both a Christian and a vegan, I have no problem with this, and would never use the Bible to prove either ethic. Moral and other issues are another matter..... Simon, I was surprised at your saying that Satan was the evil in things. You quoted Christ on the adultery front, but it's worth remembering that Christ spoke of, (and TO), the Devil as a real personality! On the Satan front, I don't think that anyone is stupid for believing that he exists, but I do feel that he likes it when people don't - means his tactics are pretty effective. However, I also don't think it's quite on to blame all evil on him. Sure, he influences things on the earth to an alarming degree, but humans are free to make their own decisions and act on them. Also, perhaps it is a little out of harmony with the gentleness of the vegan ethic to be calling others " stupid " ?? Love and mango, Elisabeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 , " elisabeth_rb " <erbraun@u...> wrote: > Simon, (and all the team here) > > Could you please give the citation for the text you quoted? It > sounds similar to the one at Genesis 1:29 which was directed to > humans and would, therefore, exclude the carnivorous animals, > (although as we're all well aware, all animal life depends on plant > life ultimately however they get it, ie directly or by eating the > intestines of herbivores), thus satisfying both the points made about > this text. Could be that it isn't a good translation too. > (Actually, it would be better to cite ALL your quotations - carries a > lot more weight that way and is much easier to reference). > > Anyway, the Bible actually doesn't comment much on diet. Some say it > is anti-vegetarian and some others quote passages out of context to > prove that it actively promotes it, but the truth is, it barely > touches on the subject of diet, esp where veggie issues are > concerned, but leaves that sort of thing to the individual.=) As > both a Christian and a vegan, I have no problem with this, and would > never use the Bible to prove either ethic. Moral and other issues > are another matter..... > > Simon, I was surprised at your saying that Satan was the evil in > things. You quoted Christ on the adultery front, but it's worth > remembering that Christ spoke of, (and TO), the Devil as a real > personality! > > On the Satan front, I don't think that anyone is stupid for believing > that he exists, but I do feel that he likes it when people don't - > means his tactics are pretty effective. However, I also don't think > it's quite on to blame all evil on him. Sure, he influences things > on the earth to an alarming degree, but humans are free to make their > own decisions and act on them. > > Also, perhaps it is a little out of harmony with the gentleness of > the vegan ethic to be calling others " stupid " ?? > > Love and mango, > > Elisabeth. < Elisabeth, Who could deny evilness,horror ,what ever you want call it exits.The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, It clearly states that humans and animals and every thing that has the breathe of life in it should eat the plants should be theirs for food,I can't see how it can be interpreted to mean any thing ,unless we have a different understanding of what words themselves mean! p.s what does mango mean? yours SP, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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