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Hi Simon!

 

- Who could deny evilness,horror ,what ever you want call

> it exits.

 

Nobody with any sense!! I would never be daft enough to say

otherwise!=) My point was basically that, if we want to use the

Bible to talk about the origin of evil and related things, we need to

take care that we are consistant with it. The Bible refers very

plainly to Satan as a distinct personality and not as the evil within

man etc.

 

>The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, It clearly states

> that humans and animals and every thing that has the breathe of

life

> in it should eat the plants should be theirs for food,

 

Gen 1:29 reads:

'And God went on to say: " Here I have given to you all vegetation

bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and ever tree

on which there is fruit of a tree bearing seed. To you let it serve

as food. " '

 

Verse 29 mentions only humans, although v30 goes on to talk

about " everything moving on the earth in which there is life as a

soul " . Think about it though, who was God talking to here? Was it

not Adam? And do animals need spoken and written instruction from

their creator? They don't do they? All their *natural* behaviour

patterns are instinctively programmed and it is an unarguable fact

that some animals *are* carnivorous - their digestive systems are

designed and built to deal with flesh foods. As I mentioned last

time though, ultimately, all animal life relies on plant foods for

survival whether they eat the plants directly or get them by eating

the digestive organs of herbivores, which is what carnivores do -

they rip out herbivorous animals' intestines. Natural ecological

control??=) Anyway, the fact remains that humans were designed as

very herbivorous, (probably frugivorous), beings and modern research

gives overwhelming support to the healthfulness of a plant-based

diet.=)

 

> p.s what does mango mean?

 

The fruit???=) It's my favourite food and I often include it in a

closing greeting as a way of sharing something nice.=) Also, I'm

into a high raw diet so I eat a large amount of fruit. Yum! The

fruit in the greeting can very though, so:

 

Love and ripe papaya!

 

Elisabeth.

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, " elisabeth_rb " <erbraun@u...> wrote:

> Hi Simon!

>

> - Who could deny evilness,horror ,what ever you want call

> > it exits.

>

> Nobody with any sense!! I would never be daft enough to say

> otherwise!=) My point was basically that, if we want to use the

> Bible to talk about the origin of evil and related things, we need

to

> take care that we are consistant with it. The Bible refers very

> plainly to Satan as a distinct personality and not as the evil

within

> man etc.

>

> >The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, It clearly states

> > that humans and animals and every thing that has the breathe of

> life

> > in it should eat the plants should be theirs for food,

>

> Gen 1:29 reads:

> 'And God went on to say: " Here I have given to you all vegetation

> bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and ever

tree

> on which there is fruit of a tree bearing seed. To you let it

serve

> as food. " '

>

> Verse 29 mentions only humans, although v30 goes on to talk

> about " everything moving on the earth in which there is life as a

> soul " . Think about it though, who was God talking to here? Was it

> not Adam? And do animals need spoken and written instruction from

> their creator? They don't do they? All their *natural* behaviour

> patterns are instinctively programmed and it is an unarguable fact

> that some animals *are* carnivorous - their digestive systems are

> designed and built to deal with flesh foods. As I mentioned last

> time though, ultimately, all animal life relies on plant foods for

> survival whether they eat the plants directly or get them by eating

> the digestive organs of herbivores, which is what carnivores do -

> they rip out herbivorous animals' intestines. Natural ecological

> control??=) Anyway, the fact remains that humans were designed as

> very herbivorous, (probably frugivorous), beings and modern

research

> gives overwhelming support to the healthfulness of a plant-based

> diet.=)

>

> > p.s what does mango mean?

>

> The fruit???=) It's my favourite food and I often include it in a

> closing greeting as a way of sharing something nice.=) Also, I'm

> into a high raw diet so I eat a large amount of fruit. Yum! The

> fruit in the greeting can very though, so:

>

> Love and ripe papaya!

>

> Elisabeth.

 

<Hi Elisabeth,

What the scriptures seem clearly to be saying from Gen;1-26...Gen;1-

31, is that we shoulod eat the fruits and plant type foods across the

whole earth and animals should be eating the plant type foods, there

is no indication that animals should be eating one another!

We,humans it seems, assume that because some animals do eat each

other that ,thats how it is meant to be,Lets remember that God said

before the food advice, we should rule over the animals,that does not

say we should leave animals to their own device,the only conclusion

that can be made from this is, in todays world we should be helping

animals to rekindle the way they should be eating their food, plant

foods!.

Domesticated cats and dogs can be live on a veggie diet why not there

distant relatives?

SP, Plantian and advocado!

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Dear Simon,

 

With the greatest respect in the world, you have some large gaps in

both your biological and biblical knowledge!!!=)

 

Fresh pineapple wishes to you,

 

Elisabeth

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, " vegicate1 " <simonpjones@o...> wrote:

> , " elisabeth_rb " <erbraun@u...> wrote:

> > Hi Simon!

> >

> > - Who could deny evilness,horror ,what ever you want

call

> > > it exits.

> >

> > Nobody with any sense!! I would never be daft enough to say

> > otherwise!=) My point was basically that, if we want to use the

> > Bible to talk about the origin of evil and related things, we

need

> to

> > take care that we are consistant with it. The Bible refers very

> > plainly to Satan as a distinct personality and not as the evil

> within

> > man etc.

> >

> > >The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, It clearly states

> > > that humans and animals and every thing that has the breathe of

> > life

> > > in it should eat the plants should be theirs for food,

> >

> > Gen 1:29 reads:

> > 'And God went on to say: " Here I have given to you all vegetation

> > bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and ever

> tree

> > on which there is fruit of a tree bearing seed. To you let it

> serve

> > as food. " '

> >

> > Verse 29 mentions only humans, although v30 goes on to talk

> > about " everything moving on the earth in which there is life as a

> > soul " . Think about it though, who was God talking to here? Was

it

> > not Adam? And do animals need spoken and written instruction

from

> > their creator? They don't do they? All their *natural*

behaviour

> > patterns are instinctively programmed and it is an unarguable

fact

> > that some animals *are* carnivorous - their digestive systems are

> > designed and built to deal with flesh foods. As I mentioned last

> > time though, ultimately, all animal life relies on plant foods

for

> > survival whether they eat the plants directly or get them by

eating

> > the digestive organs of herbivores, which is what carnivores do -

> > they rip out herbivorous animals' intestines. Natural ecological

> > control??=) Anyway, the fact remains that humans were designed

as

> > very herbivorous, (probably frugivorous), beings and modern

> research

> > gives overwhelming support to the healthfulness of a plant-based

> > diet.=)

> >

> > > p.s what does mango mean?

> >

> > The fruit???=) It's my favourite food and I often include it in

a

> > closing greeting as a way of sharing something nice.=) Also, I'm

> > into a high raw diet so I eat a large amount of fruit. Yum! The

> > fruit in the greeting can very though, so:

> >

> > Love and ripe papaya!

> >

> > Elisabeth.

>

> <Hi Neville Fowler,

 

> What the scriptures seem clearly to be saying from Gen;1-

26...Gen;1-

> 31, is that we should eat the fruits and plant type foods across

the

> whole earth and animals should be eating the plant type foods,

there

> is no indication that animals should be eating one another!

> We,humans it seems, assume that because some animals do eat each

> other that ,thats how it is meant to be,Lets remember that God

said

> before the food advice, we should rule over the animals,that does

not

> say we should leave animals to their own device,the only conclusion

> that can be made from this is, in todays world we should be helping

> animals to rekindle the way they should be eating their food, plant

> foods!.

> Domesticated cats and dogs can be live on a veggie diet why not

there distant relatives?

 

> SP,

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, " elisabeth_rb " <erbraun@u...> wrote:

> Dear Simon,

>

> With the greatest respect in the world, you have some large gaps in

> both your biological and biblical knowledge!!!=)

>

> Fresh pineapple wishes to you,

>

> Elisabeth

 

< With respect to you, one needs only to understand very basic

english to understand Gen1-26...Gen1-31; and being only on the second

page of your Bible searching for it will not be to hard,

Personally I would choose Gods rather thans a humans misguided word!

I understand I think; why you have missed the simplicity of the texts,

Try reading it again as if for the first time, this might help to

clear the cobwebs of others misinterpretations of a very simple

message!

PS I hope you will begin to understand the message!

Apples & pears,

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