Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Those who read the texts see that it SAYS that all life was designed to live at peace -- ALL sentient beings with ALL OTHER sentient beings - PERIOD!That there is anger, and that vegans are not exempted from this anger, and that professing religionists don't think through what theyprofess to believe, and that persons make what they call their "religion" into phony masks (which don't hide much) {like the "Emperors' new clothes") is not reason to cloud one's own vision about what is evidently in front of us.Maynard S. Clark Simon pJones <simonpjones wrote: Hello Elisabeth, I agree people throwing insults at each other is not the forward, The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, I have read this quote in quite a few Bibles and they all say quite clearly that all humans and animals ,Everything that has the breathe of life in it, the plants shall be theirs for food, How can you interpret this as meaning just humans?~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 ---If we read from Gen1-24-31, Wild animals are talked of, and we humans, are told to subdue the earth and rule over the Birds and animals etc,I'm sure this can only mean to rule as a helping hand to the creatures, and to help them to adhere to a plant- type diet,not to harm them! so many people today who masquerade as godly people,seem not to understand the very basic components of what they are even masquerading about,which confuses everyone and progress it not made, but as long as the vast amount of edible plants are recognized as food and not animals, the future will get better! if it was not such a serious thing it would be almost laughable, humans eating animals,inconceivable! SP, , " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote: > > Those who read the texts see that it SAYS that all life was designed to live at peace -- ALL sentient beings with ALL OTHER sentient beings - PERIOD! > > That there is anger, and that vegans are not exempted from this anger, and that professing religionists don't think through what theyprofess to believe, and that persons make what they call their " religion " into phony masks (which don't hide much) {like the " Emperors' new clothes " ) is not reason to cloud one's own vision about what is evidently in front of us. > > Maynard S. Clark > Simon pJones <simonpjones@o...> wrote: Hello Elisabeth,I agree people throwing insults at each other is not the way forward,The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, I have read this quote in quite a few Bibles and they all say quite clearly that all humans and animals ,Everything that has the breathe of life in it, the plants shall be theirs for food, How can it be interpreted as meaning just humans without the point being missed? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 The United Kingdom has PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, and my understanding is that STEWARDSHIP is PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION of a range of reality ON BEHALF OF the persons involved in that range of reality -- working outward from oneself, one's family, one's neighborhood or grouping, and so on.... Subdue is not really the issue, unless (as with terrorist aggression) it's unruly to the point that persons are harmed. We have laws, and hopefully laws are good, or are made to be(come) good. Maynard S. Clark vegicate1 <simonpjones wrote: ---If we read from Gen1-24-31, Wild animals are talked of, and we humans, are told to subdue the earth and rule over the Birds and animals etc,I'm sure this can only mean to rule as a helping hand to the creatures, and to help them to adhere to a plant- type diet,not to harm them!So many people today who masquerade as godly people,seem not to understand the very basic components of what they are even masquerading about,which confuses everyone and progress it not made, but as long as the vast amount of edible plants are recognized as food and not animals, the future will get better! if it was not such a serious thing it would be almost laughable, humans eating animals,inconceivable!SP,, "Maynard S. Clark" <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote:> > Those who read the texts see that it SAYS that all life was designed to live at peace -- ALL sentient beings with ALL OTHER sentient beings - PERIOD!> > That there is anger, and that vegans are not exempted from this anger, and that professing religionists don't think through what they profess to believe, and that persons make what they call their "religion" into phony masks (which don't hide much) {like the "Emperors' new clothes") is not reason to cloud one's own vision about what is evidently in front of us.> > Maynard S. Clark> Simon pJones <simonpjones@o...> wrote: Hello Elisabeth,I agree people throwing insults at each other is not the way forward, The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, I have read this quote in quite a few Bibles and they all say quite clearly that all humans and animals ,Everything that has the breathe of life in it, the plants shall be theirs for food, How can it be interpreted as meaning just humans without the point being missed? Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 --- The mini oxford dictionary I have handy,( prehaps not the best definition) but all the same defines the word subdue in these words; Quote; Bring under control;make quieter or less intense.Unquote; It seems prehaps we have a different understanding of the word, why you relative it to terrorist aggression,when you must clearly know the in Genesis1;29-31 the word is used to bring about peace amonge creaturekind and we humans have been given Dominion over the rest of the ( at least the larger) animals to bring this about. it is unfortunate of you to do that. , " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote: > > The United Kingdom has PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, and my understanding is that STEWARDSHIP is PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION of a range of reality ON BEHALF OF the persons involved in that range of reality -- working outward from oneself, one's family, one's neighborhood or grouping, and so on.... Subdue is not really the issue, unless (as with terrorist aggression) it's unruly to the point that persons are harmed. We have laws, and hopefully laws are good, or are made to be (come) good. > > Maynard S. Clark > vegicate1 <simonpjones@o...> wrote: ---If we read from Gen1-24- 31, Wild animals are talked of, and we humans, are told to subdue the earth and rule over the Birds and > animals etc,I'm sure this can only mean to rule as a helping hand to the creatures, and to help them to adhere to a plant- type diet,not to harm them! > So many people today who masquerade as godly people,seem not to > understand the very basic components of what they are even > masquerading about,which confuses everyone and progress it not made, but as long as the vast amount of edible plants are recognized as food and not animals, the future will get better! if it was not such a serious thing it would be almost laughable, humans eating animals,inconceivable! > SP, > > , " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote: > > > > Those who read the texts see that it SAYS that all life was > designed to live at peace -- ALL sentient beings with ALL OTHER > sentient beings - PERIOD! > > > > That there is anger, and that vegans are not exempted from this anger, and that professing religionists don't think through what > they profess to believe, and that persons make what they call > their " religion " into phony masks (which don't hide much) {like > the " Emperors' new clothes " ) is not reason to cloud one's own vision about what is evidently in front of us. > > > > Maynard S. Clark > > Simon pJones <simonpjones@o...> wrote: Hello Elisabeth,I agree people throwing insults at each other is not the way forward, The quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, I have read this quote in quite a few Bibles and they all say quite clearly that all humans and animals ,Everything that has the breathe of life in it, the plants shall be theirs for food, How can it be interpreted as meaning just humans without the point being missed? > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 , " vegicate1 " <simonpjones@o...> wrote: > --- The mini oxford dictionary I have handy,( prehaps not the best > definition) but all the same defines the word subdue in these words; > Quote; Bring under control;make quieter or less intense.Unquote; It > seems prehaps we have a different understanding of the word, why you > relate it to terrorist aggression,when you must clearly know that in > Genesis1;29-31 the word is used to bring about peace amonge > creaturekind and we humans have been given Dominion over the rest of > the ( at least the larger) animals to bring this about. it is > unfortunate of you to do that. > > > > , " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote: > > > > The United Kingdom has PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, and my understanding > is that STEWARDSHIP is PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION of a range of reality ON > BEHALF OF the persons involved in that range of reality -- working > outward from oneself, one's family, one's neighborhood or grouping, > and so on.... Subdue is not really the issue, unless (as with > terrorist aggression) it's unruly to the point that persons are > harmed. We have laws, and hopefully laws are good, or are made to be > (come) good. > > > > Maynard S. Clark > > vegicate1 <simonpjones@o...> wrote: ---If we read from Gen1-24- > 31, Wild animals are talked of, and we humans, are told to subdue the > earth and rule over the Birds and > > animals etc,I'm sure this can only mean to rule as a helping hand > to the creatures, and to help them to adhere to a plant- type > diet,not to harm them! > > So many people today who masquerade as godly people,seem not to > > understand the very basic components of what they are even > > masquerading about,which confuses everyone and progress it not > made, but as long as the vast amount of edible plants are recognized > as food and not animals, the future will get better! if it was not > such a serious thing it would be almost laughable, humans eating > animals,inconceivable! > > SP, > > > > , " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote: > > > > > > Those who read the texts see that it SAYS that all life was > > designed to live at peace -- ALL sentient beings with ALL OTHER > > sentient beings - PERIOD! > > > > > > That there is anger, and that vegans are not exempted from this > anger, and that professing religionists don't think through what > > they profess to believe, and that persons make what they call > > their " religion " into phony masks (which don't hide much) {like > > the " Emperors' new clothes " ) is not reason to cloud one's own > vision about what is evidently in front of us. > > > > > > Maynard S. Clark > > > Simon pJones <simonpjones@o...> wrote: Hello Elisabeth,I agree > people throwing insults at each other is not the way forward, The > quote I used was from Genesis 1-29, I have read this quote in quite a > few Bibles and they all say quite clearly that all humans and > animals ,Everything that has the breathe of life in it, the plants > shall be theirs for food, How can it be interpreted as meaning just > humans without the point being missed? > > > > > > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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