Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 what is the vegetable source of taurine? - " djules_75 " <djules_75 Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:44 PM A veggie cat recipe > -warning: cats' special dietary needs are more critical than dogs'. > they can suffer loss of eyesight and can die if they are deprived of > taurine, which until recently was virtually impossible to find in a > non-animal form (now available as a derivative of an organic, > renewable, non-animal source). While most cats appear to do well on > a vegetarian diet,some have not adapted so well. Watch your > companion closely when you switch her or him to a non-meat diet. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 >what is the vegetable source of taurine? Non-animal taurine is synthetic and not vegetable. And if you want to see the chemistry just look at http://www.sigma-aldrich.com/sigma-aldrich/t8691_safc_po.pdf . Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 shame they don't tell you how it is made ... i wonder whether there is any nitrate waste ... i generally avoid taurine anyway... i think it's too easy for people to get it from the meat industry ... thanks Z > > Mavreela [nec.lists] > Monday, March 25, 2002 4:47 PM > > Re: taurine > > > > >what is the vegetable source of taurine? > > Non-animal taurine is synthetic and not vegetable. And if > you want to see > the chemistry just look at > http://www.sigma-aldrich.com/sigma-aldrich/t8691_safc_po.pdf . > > Michael > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 Oliver, The taurine in Vegecat (for instance) is not of vegetable derivation. It's synthetic. xxk@xx Oliver Slay [oliver]25 March 2002 12:04 Subject: taurine what is the vegetable source of taurine?- "djules_75" <djules_75Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:44 PM A veggie cat recipe> -warning: cats' special dietary needs are more critical than dogs'. > they can suffer loss of eyesight and can die if they are deprived of > taurine, which until recently was virtually impossible to find in a > non-animal form (now available as a derivative of an organic, > renewable, non-animal source). [asands] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 OK. Of course, those conditions are also related to deficiencies of vitamins B12 and D; and consumption of animal products. I still think the sensible, foundational step in resolving symptoms is undertaking a whole foods, low-fat vegan, gluten free diet... with emphasis on whole foods (whole grains, no oil or sugar, avoiding alcohol and caffeine) high in green and yellow veggies... with a Vitamin B12 supplement. Ensuring an adequate supply of Vitamin D is also becoming an increasingly prominent concern for everyone, not just vegans. To me, ensuring a nutrient-rich diet first and foremost is the most economical and efficient way to address potential deficiencies. Deborah I believe the connection is: if you are celiac, you may be deficient in B6. If you are deficient in B6 you may not be able to properly synthesize taurine. I noticed that some of the symptoms of taurine deficiency listed on this page are commonly associated with celiac: http://www.bodyecology.com/06/11/16/deficient_in_taurine.php anxiety, depression, hypertension, hypothyroidism, gout, infertility, obesity, kidney failure and autism, among other conditions. Pam . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Absolutely. Optimal diet for optimal health. But remember that for celiacs - and most of us on the list are - increasing your intake of vitamin B6, B12, etc. will not necessarily meet your needs. If your gut is too damaged to absorb those nutrients, you're hooped. Pam On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Deborah Pageau<dpageau wrote: > > > OK. Of course, those conditions are also related to deficiencies of vitamins > B12 and D; and consumption of animal products. > > I still think the sensible, foundational step in resolving symptoms is > undertaking a whole foods, low-fat vegan, gluten free diet... with emphasis > on whole foods (whole grains, no oil or sugar, avoiding alcohol and > caffeine) high in green and yellow veggies... with a Vitamin B12 supplement. > Ensuring an adequate supply of Vitamin D is also becoming an increasingly > prominent concern for everyone, not just vegans. > > To me, ensuring a nutrient-rich diet first and foremost is the most > economical and efficient way to address potential deficiencies. > > Deborah > > I believe the connection is: if you are celiac, you may be deficient > in B6. If you are deficient in B6 you may not be able to properly > synthesize taurine. > > I noticed that some of the symptoms of taurine deficiency listed on > this page are commonly associated with celiac: > > http://www.bodyecology.com/06/11/16/deficient_in_taurine.php > > anxiety, depression, hypertension, hypothyroidism, gout, infertility, > obesity, kidney failure and autism, among other conditions. > > Pam > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 If you're THAT hooped, taking ordinary supplements orally won't help either. Injections, patch or sublingual administration would be necessary. However, my understanding is that (thankfully!) 95% of those with damaged cilia, recover fully with a 100% gluten free diet. Apparently, the exceptions tend to be the very elderly, but I've heard of and met some who have recovered very well despite their advanced age. Deborah Absolutely. Optimal diet for optimal health. But remember that for celiacs - and most of us on the list are - increasing your intake of vitamin B6, B12, etc. will not necessarily meet your needs. If your gut is too damaged to absorb those nutrients, you're hooped. Pam . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 So my son / I are not official ' celiacs ' but we both have a strong intolerance. I am so so so concerned about healing his belly. If he has the slightest amount of gluten he has some horrible undigested poop (sorry tmi) which takes w week @ least to get back to normal. I have a few questions which such knowledgable people can help. - the husband and SIL (who will live w us for @ least another 9 month are eating gluten in the house.) I do as much as I can to separate it. I cook only gf foods, cook w separate pans/ pots than when they cook gluten, try 2 keep foods separate. But the same day gluten is in our kitchen (some one cooks something w it he gets horrible poop) suggestions? I am sure I can slowly get my husband to understand even a crumb hurts but my SIL I don't even know where 2 start. - when my son does get glutened ** I cringe beyond belief ** what more can I do? What are some foods to help his little tummy? Supplements? Herbs ? ANYthing? I feel just so bad because I try to be so strict and people just don't understand. - how do I teach people how SERIOUS of an issue this is? Ex. I told my parents and they ask is it confirmed by a doctor. So I say yes. (though its not. He has been off gluten to long for blood wk) and then they go and eat gluten and then play w him, or feed him, or eat it around him. any suggestions? I really try hard not to have gluten around him but obviously its not wking.... I will not put his body back onto gluten for a 'test' for something to confirm I already know which leads me to my next ? - has any one used enterolab diagnosis? I am thinking this is the only way I can show my hisbans / fam that he can not tolerate gluten and that they need to be careful. Like I said I do not want to put gluten back into his system and don't mind this test not being mainstream accepted as we are non quite main stream med people. Or are there any ' official ' diagnosis possibilities that are non invasive? Thanks so much. This is such an important matter to me I get so stressed beyong belief. Tracy. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld pdw <pdworkman Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:26:28 Re: taurine Absolutely. Optimal diet for optimal health. But remember that for celiacs - and most of us on the list are - increasing your intake of vitamin B6, B12, etc. will not necessarily meet your needs. If your gut is too damaged to absorb those nutrients, you're hooped. Pam On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Deborah Pageau<dpageau wrote: > > > OK. Of course, those conditions are also related to deficiencies of vitamins > B12 and D; and consumption of animal products. > > I still think the sensible, foundational step in resolving symptoms is > undertaking a whole foods, low-fat vegan, gluten free diet... with emphasis > on whole foods (whole grains, no oil or sugar, avoiding alcohol and > caffeine) high in green and yellow veggies... with a Vitamin B12 supplement. > Ensuring an adequate supply of Vitamin D is also becoming an increasingly > prominent concern for everyone, not just vegans. > > To me, ensuring a nutrient-rich diet first and foremost is the most > economical and efficient way to address potential deficiencies. > > Deborah > > I believe the connection is: if you are celiac, you may be deficient > in B6. If you are deficient in B6 you may not be able to properly > synthesize taurine. > > I noticed that some of the symptoms of taurine deficiency listed on > this page are commonly associated with celiac: > > http://www.bodyecology.com/06/11/16/deficient_in_taurine.php > > anxiety, depression, hypertension, hypothyroidism, gout, infertility, > obesity, kidney failure and autism, among other conditions. > > Pam > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hey, Tracy. I got diagnosed through Enterolab, I was happy with my experience, and I fully believe the results. I don't have too much advice for your situation with your son and the family except to say that in your house, you have every right to require that people living there make a living situation that is viable for your son. If people don't understand through conversation about it, then it's fine for if it just becomes a rule, period. If that requires them thinking you're a bitch, oh well. That's my take, anyway---start gently, but be willing to be very firm. (I'm sure you'll get much sage advice here, though.) Is it possible your son has allergies/intolerances to more than just gluten that could be affecting him? In many people's cases, dairy (casein) is a culprit as well. I'm also allergic to soy and eggs, and when I originally increased those while going gluten-free, I actually felt worse than I had before going gluten-free at times! As far as the poo goes, I did an experiment with macrobiotics a while back, and I realized that one thing that made me feel better---in general, whether eating the macro food or not---was taking the time and effort to chew my food a lot more thoroughly than I had been. Someone commented to me that the only part of our digestive system we can consciously control is our chewing, so we should make the most of that, and it's held true for me. My stomach feels a lot better when I take the time to chew each bite 20-30 times, until the food forms a sort of paste in my mouth. Then it's easier for my (still healing) digestive system to handle the rest. I think I'm not alone in my not-chewing-enough issue, though it often feels odd to bring up with people who have upset GI issues. Sally On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:02 PM, <tbozek77 wrote: > So my son / I are not official ' celiacs ' but we both have a strong > intolerance. I am so so so concerned about healing his belly. If he has the > slightest amount of gluten he has some horrible undigested poop (sorry tmi) > which takes w week @ least to get back to normal. I have a few questions > which such knowledgable people can help. > > - the husband and SIL (who will live w us for @ least another 9 month are > eating gluten in the house.) I do as much as I can to separate it. I cook > only gf foods, cook w separate pans/ pots than when they cook gluten, try 2 > keep foods separate. But the same day gluten is in our kitchen (some one > cooks something w it he gets horrible poop) suggestions? I am sure I can > slowly get my husband to understand even a crumb hurts but my SIL I don't > even know where 2 start. > > - when my son does get glutened ** I cringe beyond belief ** what more can > I do? What are some foods to help his little tummy? Supplements? Herbs ? > ANYthing? I feel just so bad because I try to be so strict and people just > don't understand. > > - how do I teach people how SERIOUS of an issue this is? Ex. I told my > parents and they ask is it confirmed by a doctor. So I say yes. (though its > not. He has been off gluten to long for blood wk) and then they go and eat > gluten and then play w him, or feed him, or eat it around him. any > suggestions? I really try hard not to have gluten around him but obviously > its not wking.... I will not put his body back onto gluten for a 'test' for > something to confirm I already know which leads me to my next ? > > - has any one used enterolab diagnosis? I am thinking this is the only way > I can show my hisbans / fam that he can not tolerate gluten and that they > need to be careful. Like I said I do not want to put gluten back into his > system and don't mind this test not being mainstream accepted as we are non > quite main stream med people. Or are there any ' official ' diagnosis > possibilities that are non invasive? > > Thanks so much. This is such an important matter to me I get so stressed > beyong belief. > > > Tracy. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > > pdw <pdworkman > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:26:28 > > Re: taurine > > > Absolutely. Optimal diet for optimal health. But remember that for > celiacs - and most of us on the list are - increasing your intake of > vitamin B6, B12, etc. will not necessarily meet your needs. If your > gut is too damaged to absorb those nutrients, you're hooped. > > Pam > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Deborah Pageau<dpageau wrote: > > > > > > OK. Of course, those conditions are also related to deficiencies of > vitamins > > B12 and D; and consumption of animal products. > > > > I still think the sensible, foundational step in resolving symptoms is > > undertaking a whole foods, low-fat vegan, gluten free diet... with > emphasis > > on whole foods (whole grains, no oil or sugar, avoiding alcohol and > > caffeine) high in green and yellow veggies... with a Vitamin B12 > supplement. > > Ensuring an adequate supply of Vitamin D is also becoming an increasingly > > prominent concern for everyone, not just vegans. > > > > To me, ensuring a nutrient-rich diet first and foremost is the most > > economical and efficient way to address potential deficiencies. > > > > Deborah > > > > I believe the connection is: if you are celiac, you may be deficient > > in B6. If you are deficient in B6 you may not be able to properly > > synthesize taurine. > > > > I noticed that some of the symptoms of taurine deficiency listed on > > this page are commonly associated with celiac: > > > > http://www.bodyecology.com/06/11/16/deficient_in_taurine.php > > > > anxiety, depression, hypertension, hypothyroidism, gout, infertility, > > obesity, kidney failure and autism, among other conditions. > > > > Pam > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hi Sally I appreciate your feedback. Do you know any where that tests for additional allergies? I know when he has TOO much dairy (some ice cream) his body reacts the same as w gluten. If he has just some cheese or a little yogurt every once in a while its perfectly fine (which makes sense cuz my body reacts the same). Its so tough w an elimination diet because he is quite a picky toddler as it is and I feel we are already down to so few foods. I try to set the example w me eating a plate full of veggies every night, and though he knows the name of each veggie he just has zero desire to eat them :o/ Thx Tracy ) Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld Sally Parrott Ashbrook <sally.parrott Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:53:24 Re: taurine Hey, Tracy. I got diagnosed through Enterolab, I was happy with my experience, and I fully believe the results. I don't have too much advice for your situation with your son and the family except to say that in your house, you have every right to require that people living there make a living situation that is viable for your son. If people don't understand through conversation about it, then it's fine for if it just becomes a rule, period. If that requires them thinking you're a bitch, oh well. That's my take, anyway---start gently, but be willing to be very firm. (I'm sure you'll get much sage advice here, though.) Is it possible your son has allergies/intolerances to more than just gluten that could be affecting him? In many people's cases, dairy (casein) is a culprit as well. I'm also allergic to soy and eggs, and when I originally increased those while going gluten-free, I actually felt worse than I had before going gluten-free at times! As far as the poo goes, I did an experiment with macrobiotics a while back, and I realized that one thing that made me feel better---in general, whether eating the macro food or not---was taking the time and effort to chew my food a lot more thoroughly than I had been. Someone commented to me that the only part of our digestive system we can consciously control is our chewing, so we should make the most of that, and it's held true for me. My stomach feels a lot better when I take the time to chew each bite 20-30 times, until the food forms a sort of paste in my mouth. Then it's easier for my (still healing) digestive system to handle the rest. I think I'm not alone in my not-chewing-enough issue, though it often feels odd to bring up with people who have upset GI issues. Sally On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:02 PM, <tbozek77 wrote: > So my son / I are not official ' celiacs ' but we both have a strong > intolerance. I am so so so concerned about healing his belly. If he has the > slightest amount of gluten he has some horrible undigested poop (sorry tmi) > which takes w week @ least to get back to normal. I have a few questions > which such knowledgable people can help. > > - the husband and SIL (who will live w us for @ least another 9 month are > eating gluten in the house.) I do as much as I can to separate it. I cook > only gf foods, cook w separate pans/ pots than when they cook gluten, try 2 > keep foods separate. But the same day gluten is in our kitchen (some one > cooks something w it he gets horrible poop) suggestions? I am sure I can > slowly get my husband to understand even a crumb hurts but my SIL I don't > even know where 2 start. > > - when my son does get glutened ** I cringe beyond belief ** what more can > I do? What are some foods to help his little tummy? Supplements? Herbs ? > ANYthing? I feel just so bad because I try to be so strict and people just > don't understand. > > - how do I teach people how SERIOUS of an issue this is? Ex. I told my > parents and they ask is it confirmed by a doctor. So I say yes. (though its > not. He has been off gluten to long for blood wk) and then they go and eat > gluten and then play w him, or feed him, or eat it around him. any > suggestions? I really try hard not to have gluten around him but obviously > its not wking.... I will not put his body back onto gluten for a 'test' for > something to confirm I already know which leads me to my next ? > > - has any one used enterolab diagnosis? I am thinking this is the only way > I can show my hisbans / fam that he can not tolerate gluten and that they > need to be careful. Like I said I do not want to put gluten back into his > system and don't mind this test not being mainstream accepted as we are non > quite main stream med people. Or are there any ' official ' diagnosis > possibilities that are non invasive? > > Thanks so much. This is such an important matter to me I get so stressed > beyong belief. > > > Tracy. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > > pdw <pdworkman > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:26:28 > > Re: taurine > > > Absolutely. Optimal diet for optimal health. But remember that for > celiacs - and most of us on the list are - increasing your intake of > vitamin B6, B12, etc. will not necessarily meet your needs. If your > gut is too damaged to absorb those nutrients, you're hooped. > > Pam > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Deborah Pageau<dpageau wrote: > > > > > > OK. Of course, those conditions are also related to deficiencies of > vitamins > > B12 and D; and consumption of animal products. > > > > I still think the sensible, foundational step in resolving symptoms is > > undertaking a whole foods, low-fat vegan, gluten free diet... with > emphasis > > on whole foods (whole grains, no oil or sugar, avoiding alcohol and > > caffeine) high in green and yellow veggies... with a Vitamin B12 > supplement. > > Ensuring an adequate supply of Vitamin D is also becoming an increasingly > > prominent concern for everyone, not just vegans. > > > > To me, ensuring a nutrient-rich diet first and foremost is the most > > economical and efficient way to address potential deficiencies. > > > > Deborah > > > > I believe the connection is: if you are celiac, you may be deficient > > in B6. If you are deficient in B6 you may not be able to properly > > synthesize taurine. > > > > I noticed that some of the symptoms of taurine deficiency listed on > > this page are commonly associated with celiac: > > > > http://www.bodyecology.com/06/11/16/deficient_in_taurine.php > > > > anxiety, depression, hypertension, hypothyroidism, gout, infertility, > > obesity, kidney failure and autism, among other conditions. > > > > Pam > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 enterolab worked well for for me, and for many personal friends. I think it is the most reliable results. Your son's reaction is the best " test " for the gluten though. Please defend your son. He cannot defend himself. Defend and protect him as if it were yourself you were defending. A crumb on something can make me useless for several days. Wheat flour in the kitchen can make my friend sick. I have to eat in a gluten free kitchen. It sounds like your family is going to have to be unselfish and eat their gluten in another place. Be courageous. You are making a huge difference in a life. It's your job. You're the mom and mother bears always defend and protect their cubs. Barbara ______ On Behalf Of tbozek77 [tbozek77] Friday, September 04, 2009 8:02 PM Re: taurine So my son / I are not official ' celiacs ' but we both have a strong intolerance. I am so so so concerned about healing his belly. If he has the slightest amount of gluten he has some horrible undigested poop (sorry tmi) which takes w week @ least to get back to normal. I have a few questions which such knowledgable people can help. - the husband and SIL (who will live w us for @ least another 9 month are eating gluten in the house.) I do as much as I can to separate it. I cook only gf foods, cook w separate pans/ pots than when they cook gluten, try 2 keep foods separate. But the same day gluten is in our kitchen (some one cooks something w it he gets horrible poop) suggestions? I am sure I can slowly get my husband to understand even a crumb hurts but my SIL I don't even know where 2 start. - when my son does get glutened ** I cringe beyond belief ** what more can I do? What are some foods to help his little tummy? Supplements? Herbs ? ANYthing? I feel just so bad because I try to be so strict and people just don't understand. - how do I teach people how SERIOUS of an issue this is? Ex. I told my parents and they ask is it confirmed by a doctor. So I say yes. (though its not. He has been off gluten to long for blood wk) and then they go and eat gluten and then play w him, or feed him, or eat it around him. any suggestions? I really try hard not to have gluten around him but obviously its not wking.... I will not put his body back onto gluten for a 'test' for something to confirm I already know which leads me to my next ? - has any one used enterolab diagnosis? I am thinking this is the only way I can show my hisbans / fam that he can not tolerate gluten and that they need to be careful. Like I said I do not want to put gluten back into his system and don't mind this test not being mainstream accepted as we are non quite main stream med people. Or are there any ' official ' diagnosis possibilities that are non invasive? Thanks so much. This is such an important matter to me I get so stressed beyong belief. Tracy. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld pdw <pdworkman Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:26:28 Re: taurine Absolutely. Optimal diet for optimal health. But remember that for celiacs - and most of us on the list are - increasing your intake of vitamin B6, B12, etc. will not necessarily meet your needs. If your gut is too damaged to absorb those nutrients, you're hooped. Pam On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Deborah Pageau<dpageau wrote: > > > OK. Of course, those conditions are also related to deficiencies of vitamins > B12 and D; and consumption of animal products. > > I still think the sensible, foundational step in resolving symptoms is > undertaking a whole foods, low-fat vegan, gluten free diet... with emphasis > on whole foods (whole grains, no oil or sugar, avoiding alcohol and > caffeine) high in green and yellow veggies... with a Vitamin B12 supplement. > Ensuring an adequate supply of Vitamin D is also becoming an increasingly > prominent concern for everyone, not just vegans. > > To me, ensuring a nutrient-rich diet first and foremost is the most > economical and efficient way to address potential deficiencies. > > Deborah > > I believe the connection is: if you are celiac, you may be deficient > in B6. If you are deficient in B6 you may not be able to properly > synthesize taurine. > > I noticed that some of the symptoms of taurine deficiency listed on > this page are commonly associated with celiac: > > http://www.bodyecology.com/06/11/16/deficient_in_taurine.php > > anxiety, depression, hypertension, hypothyroidism, gout, infertility, > obesity, kidney failure and autism, among other conditions. > > Pam > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Tracy, You are a good mom to be doing what you can for your son and his health. For many of the gluten free people I know, it has taken time for family members to understand and accept their dietary restrictions. It doesn't really make sense to the family members until they come to a clear understanding of how gluten affects those who are intolerant of it. I sympathize with your stress. We used enterolab to test our family and were very pleased with the company as a whole. We appreciated the non-invasive nature of the testing, especially for our children. Based on our experience, I would say that enterolab's stool test is more reliable than a blood test for diagnosing gluten intolerance. I would encourage you to pursue testing with enterolab for both yourself and your son. It is well worth the expense. In 2005 when we tested, some insurance companies were willing to help cover costs. Have your husband or any of the other members of your family seen your son's poop so they can begin to understand that things just aren't normal in his belly? It might help them realize where you're coming from with all this and perhaps they can be won over to advocate for him as well. The good news is that when a child is truly gluten-free, his gut can heal faster than that of an adult. Have courage, Karen tbozek77 wrote: > So my son / I are not official ' celiacs ' but we both have a strong intolerance. I am so so so concerned about healing his belly. If he has the slightest amount of gluten he has some horrible undigested poop (sorry tmi) which takes w week @ least to get back to normal. I have a few questions which such knowledgable people can help. > > - the husband and SIL (who will live w us for @ least another 9 month are eating gluten in the house.) I do as much as I can to separate it. I cook only gf foods, cook w separate pans/ pots than when they cook gluten, try 2 keep foods separate. But the same day gluten is in our kitchen (some one cooks something w it he gets horrible poop) suggestions? I am sure I can slowly get my husband to understand even a crumb hurts but my SIL I don't even know where 2 start. > > - when my son does get glutened ** I cringe beyond belief ** what more can I do? What are some foods to help his little tummy? Supplements? Herbs ? ANYthing? I feel just so bad because I try to be so strict and people just don't understand. > > - how do I teach people how SERIOUS of an issue this is? Ex. I told my parents and they ask is it confirmed by a doctor. So I say yes. (though its not. He has been off gluten to long for blood wk) and then they go and eat gluten and then play w him, or feed him, or eat it around him. any suggestions? I really try hard not to have gluten around him but obviously its not wking.... I will not put his body back onto gluten for a 'test' for something to confirm I already know which leads me to my next ? > > - has any one used enterolab diagnosis? I am thinking this is the only way I can show my hisbans / fam that he can not tolerate gluten and that they need to be careful. Like I said I do not want to put gluten back into his system and don't mind this test not being mainstream accepted as we are non quite main stream med people. Or are there any ' official ' diagnosis possibilities that are non invasive? > > Thanks so much. This is such an important matter to me I get so stressed beyong belief. > > > Tracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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