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This board is infested with religious nuts who talk a lot about " love " but

worship a God who is gonna make me burn for eternity just cos I don't! That

is Christian " mercy " ! Fucking pile of shit! It's about social control, get

it? Same as Islam, Hinduism and all the rest. Let go of the scripture and

get a life!

 

Edith French

 

 

 

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You obviously havent read the scripture, or you'd know

that God doesn't punish- he forgives.

 

Some of us are veg*ans for spiritual reasons. What is

wrong with that?

 

So we 'love' so we don't like to 'judge'. SO WHAT?

We all have our own views, and you being a vegan, you

should be used to diversity and even religious people.

 

as far as 'getting a life'- we all have a life. Can we

not be more than a vegan? Can we not also be a

christain, a gay, a jew, a hindu? Can we all not have

our own reasons for it?

 

 

 

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BTW, if you didn't believe in God, why do you think

he'll make you burn in hell?

 

If he doesnt exist is all.....

 

 

 

 

 

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" You obviously havent read the scripture, or you'd know

that God doesn't punish- he forgives. "

 

Oh right, so it don't matter if we own JC as our " Saviour " or not cos we all

gonna be saved anyway!?

 

I must have read the scriptures all wrong then!!!

 

Yipppppeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

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--- Edith,

I think we can only be saved when we turn from wrong doing and seek

to do good,why would anyone want to do wrong anyway!unless they have

been misled,If we seek with all our desires to do what is right

surely that is the first step!

SP,

 

 

, " slg edith " <slgedith@h...> wrote:

> " You obviously havent read the scripture, or you'd know

> that God doesn't punish- he forgives. "

>

> Oh right, so it don't matter if we own JC as our " Saviour " or not

cos we all

> gonna be saved anyway!?

>

> I must have read the scriptures all wrong then!!!

>

> Yipppppeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>

> Edith

> Lmfao!

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---Edith,

Seeing as we are surrounded by a lot of fire, the sun and stars and

so on, it dosn't seem inconceivable that we might burn,and i'm sure

it would be hellish!I'm sure also that most people except, we are not

living on this planet as we should be,that the planet is becoming

worse off through humans being selfish and destructive,what will be

the fate of the life forms on the planet if we carry on destroying!!

SP,

 

 

 

In , " slg edith " <slgedith@h...> wrote:

> This board is infested with religious nuts who talk a lot

about " love " but

> worship a God who is gonna make me burn for eternity just cos I

don't! That

> is Christian " mercy " ! Fucking pile of shit! It's about social

control, get

> it? Same as Islam, Hinduism and all the rest. Let go of the

scripture and

> get a life!

>

> Edith French

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my first reaction to you edith, is that you are a

hatefilled bitch.

 

But in reality your probably really insecure, and

thats why you are so negative and down on every one

who wants to have a spiritual life.

 

Poor thing....

 

 

 

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.. there is never anythign wrong i nbeing vegan, whatever the initial reasons were. on a personal level it is "wrong" to be vegan because god told you to.

..christians do judge.

[asands] and who is saying any of us aren't more than just vegan? beleiving in god doesn't make you something special, in fact, i'd say it shows and insecurity........RAT........ Some of us are veg*ans for spiritual reasons. What iswrong with that?So we 'love' so we don't like to 'judge'. SO WHAT?We all have our own views, and you being a vegan, youshould be used to diversity and even religious people.as far as 'getting a life'- we all have a life. Can wenot be more than a vegan? Can we not also be achristain, a gay, a jew, a hindu? Can we all not haveour own reasons for it?Everything you'll ever need on one web pagefrom News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.

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> beleiving in god doesn't make you something special, in fact,

i'd say it

> shows and insecurity........RAT........

 

Would you like to back up that claim with reasons why, if not you

may find yourself in the big bad naughty corner because calling

people insecure just because they have different beliefs to you

sounds like an insult to me.

 

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i'm suprised that you see it as an insult. you obviously have low opinions of some of us.

why beleive in something that you have absolutly NO proof exists? to secure a place in "heaven"? to feel the need to beleive in something that cannot be proven. an individual should beleive i nthemselves, not have to look to a book (that's all it is) for "guidance". why do people get pissed all the time? insecurity. why do people fight all the time? insecurity.

still in the big bad naughty corner? whatever...RAT.......> beleiving in god doesn't make you something special, in fact, i'd say it> shows and insecurity........RAT........Would you like to back up that claim with reasons why, if not you may find yourself in the big bad naughty corner because calling people insecure just because they have different beliefs to you sounds like an insult to me.Michael~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -

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> i'm suprised that you see it as an insult. you obviously have

low opinions

> of some of us.

> why beleive in something that you have absolutly NO proof

exists?

 

Woah there, boy, slow down. I am an atheist and have never

professed or insinuated otherwise. Wish to continue your attack

on why I have a low opinion of you when I have the same

beliefs?

 

I'm surprised you don't see what you said as an insult... Okay,

sorry, I lied. Actually I'm not surprised because you seem to

want to jump on people for being Christian (or of any other

religion) just for that reason, and even when they aren't religious

at all.

 

Are you a bit insecure in your own beliefs that you feel you need

to attack those who you have other ones? Poor poppet.

 

> to feel the need to beleive in something that

> cannot be proven.

 

Then I challenge you to prove there isn't a god (or gods) o

master of metaphysics.

 

> why do people get pissed all the time? insecurity.

 

Well regardless of what you might think I just happen to like a

good drink

 

> still in the big bad naughty corner? whatever...RAT.......

 

To be honest I think I'm there too, if anyone else was as flippant

as I'm being then I'd probably give them a good telling off. Lucky

thing then that I'm in charge, and as this list is supposed to be a

non judgmental, friendly and welcoming place, unless you wish

to state opinions rather than stand in judgment of others from

your high and mighty position of absolute rightousness then yep,

the big bad naughty corner it is.

 

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But Christians are allowed to refer to women as *bitches*??? That is not an

*insult*??? What is this crap? You don't scare, Mr Hunt!

 

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>Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:30:04 -0000

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> > beleiving in god doesn't make you something special, in fact,

>i'd say it

> > shows and insecurity........RAT........

>

>Would you like to back up that claim with reasons why, if not you

>may find yourself in the big bad naughty corner because calling

>people insecure just because they have different beliefs to you

>sounds like an insult to me.

>

>Michael

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, " slg edith " <slgedith@h...> wrote:

> But Christians are allowed to refer to women as *bitches*???

That is not an

> *insult*??? What is this crap? You don't scare, Mr Hunt!

 

Goodness woman, don't you listen. As I said already, if any

more of those nice Christians wish to refer to our poor widdle

helpless Edith as a bitch again then they;ll be making a visit to

the big bad naughty corner, but as you started it then you can't

really be upset if they play you at your own game. Everyone else

can because it makes the list less tolerant, but you my dear, you

don't give a damn. Admit it.

 

Now let us all have a good nights sleep as I'm away tomorrow

daytime and in the evening my " moderate this member " link

clicking finger might be itchy from all the travelling I'll have done.

 

And please don't call me Mr Hunt or I may get invited to Peter's

family functions, and you wouldn't want that for me? Would you?

 

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Just watched a great programme " sinners " on BBC

about unmarried mums and how their babies were stolen from them

The only sinners I saw were the evil nuns It was dated in 1960's and based

on true conditions

Those nuns were clearly in league with the Devil

 

I'm so grateful to be an unbeliever I couldn't cope with having the

churches evil doings on my conscience . At least I'm not upholding their

evil past

Has the church ever appologised for its crimes Its busy telling us how

we are sinners !!!!!

 

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Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:38 AM

What is all this Christian crap anyway?

 

 

religious nuts who talk a lot about " love " but

> worship a God who is gonna make me burn for eternity just cos I don't!

That

> is Christian " mercy " ! Fucking pile of shit! It's about social control, get

> it? Same as Islam, Hinduism and all the rest. Let go of the scripture and

> get a life!

>

> Edith French

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Is he allowed to be insulting to our Edith on this polite site ??? I'm with you Edith Now there's a first !!

 

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Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:32 PM

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my first reaction to you edith, is that you are ahatefilled bitch.But in reality your probably really insecure, andthats why you are so negative and down on every onewho wants to have a spiritual life.Poor thing....Everything you'll ever need on one web pagefrom News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -

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Surely insecurity isn't necessarily a bad thing? What's wrong with saying

someone is, possibly, insecure? Not sure I understand the rules on this

" new " list. Esp as the quote, below, specifically states " i'd say it... "

which to me means much the same as " in my opinion " . Are we not allowed to

voice opinions? Obviously if I said something like " I think you are a great

big smelly animal-eating imbecile... " then that's not nice but - no, can't

see what's wrong with that either!

Okay, for this great big smelly non-animal-eating imbecile please let me

know the rules again. Specially if I'm gonna be sometimes moderator..!

 

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mavreela [nec.lists]

Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:30 PM

 

Re: What is all this Christian crap anyway?

 

 

> beleiving in god doesn't make you something special, in fact,

i'd say it

> shows and insecurity........RAT........

 

Would you like to back up that claim with reasons why, if not you

may find yourself in the big bad naughty corner because calling

people insecure just because they have different beliefs to you

sounds like an insult to me.

 

Michael

 

 

 

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darling, yopu must read the whole post before you make

a judgement.

As marveela said- she started it.......

 

 

 

 

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Edith, I seem to remeber you calling me a JESUS CREEP,

not a christian....

too funny ...you are that is....

which side if the bible are you on? For? against? a

little of each?

 

LOL.....

 

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Edith seems to want to drag this on and on....

Perhaps she doesn't like me, or christians, but is

that just cause to be constantly trying to get me into

trouble or perpetuate the hate? Is this some sort of

personal vendetta?

Why cant we just close this topic for good...

I dont see how it is productive, or compassionate, or

how it fits in any way with the group statement...

ned

 

 

 

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> Okay, for this great big smelly non-animal-eating imbecile

please let me

> know the rules again. Specially if I'm gonna be sometimes

moderator..!

 

Good point about " insecure " not necessarily being a negative

term, although it was very clearly intended as one when used

yesterday.

 

Put it this way, if you say something negative about anyone it's

wrong (e.g. " you are insecure " is not allowed) but to state your

opinion of the subject is okay (e.g. " I don't not agree with religion

because is the product of insecurity " is fine). Maybe it seems the

same either way, but people genuinely get upset the first way

where they may not the second way. (Some people do get upset

the second way too but if we banned that you could never reply to

anyone unless you agreed which would be stupid).

 

In short, attack the subject, not the person. And if you are going

to state opinions which portray people negatively then you need

to back them up and say why.

 

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> As marveela said- she started it.......

 

And please don't make me regret doing so. If there is trouble

everyone involved is to blame because we all take responsibility

for our own actions.

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You can't close any topic for good unless everyone agrees to close it. Best

way is for one person to start. If you don't reply to them, they can't reply

to you... Difficult to do tho, which is why these things go on, and on and

on and on...

 

Cheers

 

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ned_flagherty [ned_flagherty]

Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:10 AM

 

Re: Re: What is all this Christian crap anyway?

 

 

Edith seems to want to drag this on and on....

Perhaps she doesn't like me, or christians, but is

that just cause to be constantly trying to get me into

trouble or perpetuate the hate? Is this some sort of

personal vendetta?

Why cant we just close this topic for good...

I dont see how it is productive, or compassionate, or

how it fits in any way with the group statement...

ned

 

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If they eat animals they must expect to be insulted on a vegan list unless they are " changing "

 

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Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:35 AM

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Obviously if I said something like "I think you are a greatbig smelly animal-eating imbecile..." then that's not nice but - no, can'tsee what's wrong with that either!Okay, for this great big smelly non-animal-eating imbecile please let meknow the rules again. Specially if I'm gonna be sometimes moderator..!CheersViv"You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji"www.veganvillage.co.ukwww.vegansociety.comhttp://VEGAN-info.com/index.htmmavreela [nec.lists]Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: Re: What is all this Christian crap anyway?> beleiving in god doesn't make you something special, in fact,i'd say it> shows and insecurity........RAT........Would you like to back up that claim with reasons why, if not youmay find yourself in the big bad naughty corner because callingpeople insecure just because they have different beliefs to yousounds like an insult to me.Michael~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -

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She's a bit weird Edith but you get used to her !!!

Just don't take her seriously

 

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