Hate (was tibetans vegan?) [OT]right and wrong,{OT}

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---I use the words right and wrong, good and bad and love and hate as

dictionaries define the words, as opposites, how we decide what is

right and wrong in the real world can be diffcult in the mixed up

state it is in at the moment!I believe there is a ultimate right and

wrong which is true regardless of what we pathetic,arrogant humans at

times might decide.We can only hope to do what is right based on our

desire to do right! thats why a little bit of an awareness, that we

are not greater then that which made us! whether you believe in God

or some dead consciousless matter that came to life and just happened

to evolve living creatures through a mixture of different matter,

which just happened to exit anyway.There could be planets out there

the size of marbles with life similiar to ours in it!or insects on

planets with eyeballs the size of Jupiter!I find it to hard to

believe that there no conscious creator! whatever the case!

sp,

 

 

 

 

In , Oliver Slay <oliver@l...> wrote:

> love and hate are not opposites ... and right and wrong are not

opposites...

>

> when someone loves completely with their whole body ... there is no

room for

> hate... can you hate someone you love? ... someone you really

love... can

> you hate them? ... is there room for it?

>

> subjectively speaking, right and wrong for you are opposites...

and right

> and wrong for me might be opposites... but what you call right and

wrong,

> and what i call right and wrong, are not the same ... will never be

the

> same... so why not question whether right and wrong are

opposites... let's

> question whether opposite is the right word to be using here...

>

> what is the wrong way to do something ? ... is the wrong way to do

something

> the way that i have been educated to do it? ... are you going to

stand in

> front of someone and tell them that?

>

> let's use a little science knowledge ... if you are doing an

experiment ...

> to test your theory ... most results fit your theory ... but there

are some

> results that do not fit ... are they wrong? ... or is your initial

theory

> wrong? ... it's a 'sin' (hamartia) when the results do not fit 100%

with

> your theories... and in order to repent (metanoia) you must adjust

your own

> theories until the results fit ...

>

> so you have values... you have values that you have created in your

lifetime

> due to the (relatively) immediate environment in which you live ...

the

> village the town the area... the society .. the country ... the

continent

> ...

>

> and yet we place these values on the universe ... a universe where

there is

> no mercy for any part... stars die just because they might get

sucked into a

> black hole ... stars are born ... some plastic surgery and some

stars are

> reborn ... where tidal waves kill people ... and tornadoes rip up

homes...

> (don't you just hate tidal waves?)

>

> so what is right and what is wrong? ... in 15th century Korea boys

of 9

> years old were married to 14 year old girls... you might say that is

> wrong... but 4-20 million Koreans would have put you in the corner

and

> laughed at you for being so silly... they don't do it now ...

because some

> self-righteous missionaries came along and told them they shouldn't

do it

> because it was wrong...

>

>

>

>

> >

> > vegicate1 [simonpjones@o...]

> > Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:59 AM

> >

> > Re: Hate (was tibetans vegan?) [OT]

> >

> >

> > ---Love and hate are opposite entities,like right and wrong!If we

> > love what is right and hate what is wrong,then surely we will

surly

> > win the battle!

> > SP,

> >

> >

> > In , " Oliver Slay " <oliver@l...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Maybe without hate there could be no love. And as easy as it

is

> > > > to love everyone through understanding it makes us vulnerable

> > > > while it is hate that installs in us the doubt that protects

us.

> > The

> > > > questions is not whether we should hate, but that we should

> > > > learn to use it and channel it better.

> > >

> > > what?! ... where there is love there can be no hate.... !

> > >

> > > is this not clear enough?

> >

> >

> >