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hey, lesley must be thrilled she has simon, another reactionary

authoritarian bigot to feel morally superior with over we baby killers. i'm

sooooo pleased for her :) never mind that winning incited/encouraged violent

bigots to beat up gays, at least he tried to stop women making choices about

their bodies. what a hero.

 

jane the ironic

 

p.s. if you want to moderate me, michael go ahead -just remember, i didn't

start it. so sucks ya boo.

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> p.s. if you want to moderate me, michael go ahead -just

remember, i didn't

> start it. so sucks ya boo.

 

Don't worry because next time I will. And nope, you did start it.

 

Michael

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What is your big problem with me? Because I challenge your inconsistency of

attitude to living beings, you feel the need to assume me to be some sort of

right-wing reactionary? Yep, I guess it's easier to demonise me, because it

diverts you from looking critically at yourself and what you did.

At least I am consistent in my attitude to respecting life, and I would

certainly never agree with anyone being violent towards gay people, I'm very

much against homophobia, but at the same time there is a difference between

agreeing with violence and actually doing it, and it doesn't come much more

violent than killing your own child. That is a much more serious harm than

beating up a gay person and causing a few bruises, because the person still

has his or her life.

I certainly don't feel I am morally superior to you, I of all people have no

right to feel superior because I made the mistake of using the morning-after

pill one time in my teens not much older than you when you had the abortion,

so I could be equally a baby-killer (I don't know for certain), but at least

I have changed my views and attitude and am sorry for what I did and would

always discourage such killing now that I am aware that it takes a life.

I've never opposed us making choices about our own bodies, just opposed to

us killing those most dependent on us.

 

Lesley

 

 

 

jane easton [jane.easton]

27 March 2002 19:55

 

it's the cardinal winning fan club

 

 

hey, lesley must be thrilled she has simon, another reactionary

authoritarian bigot to feel morally superior with over we baby killers. i'm

sooooo pleased for her :) never mind that winning incited/encouraged violent

bigots to beat up gays, at least he tried to stop women making choices about

their bodies. what a hero.

 

jane the ironic

 

p.s. if you want to moderate me, michael go ahead -just remember, i didn't

start it. so sucks ya boo.

 

 

 

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Has gone back to its original format or does the new unmoderated

list still exist? Since getting my computer back I haven't received any

messages from the new vegan list, and this one just seems like the old days.

 

Janey

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>

> What is your big problem with me? Because I challenge your inconsistency

of

> attitude to living beings, you feel the need to assume me to be some sort

of

> right-wing reactionary? Yep, I guess it's easier to demonise me, because

it

> diverts you from looking critically at yourself and what you did.

>

> Lesley

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> Has gone back to its original format or does the new

unmoderated

> list still exist? Since getting my computer back I haven't

received any

> messages from the new vegan list, and this one just seems

like the old days.

 

'Tis funny that. I half expected this list to die completely and the

other one carry on as before. No idea what went wrong.

 

Still this list has gained a few active members so something

went to plan. As for it being like the old days, I know. I admit it, I

just don't like moderating people. I want to give people a chance

to redeem themselves. That said several people have had their

warning and will be moderated next time so maybe things

around here will die out after all? Pessemistic, moi?

 

Michael

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