Non-vegan possesions - what do you do with them?

March 29, 2002

I have a funny story -- well, funny to me and to the

NAVS Directors who were part of it.

when I first had become a vegetarian while in the

Harvard Divinity School, I managed quickly to discover

BOTH Vegetarian Times (www.Vegetariantimes.com) AND

the North American Vegetarian Society

(www.NAVS-Online.org).

When I registered for the North American Vegetarian

Society summer conference and joined the organization

in the same form, I was asked (on their membership

form) what kind of vegetarian considered myself.

One of the options was " vegan " (eats no animal

ingredients and wears no animal items or uses any

products which purposefully caused animal suffering.

I checked another item and wrote back an explanatory,

apologetic note (about the item which had made me

think), saying (something like):

(that) I am trying to eliminate all these items, and I

would never again buy leather shoes or animal

products, but I had an old pair of (Clark's) leather

shooes which had been broken in and which felt like a

friend, and which I didn' wan tto throw away.

When Brian and Sharon Graff met me at that year's

summer conference, Brian remembered me as the NAVS

member with the pair of old shoes that felt like a

friend (rather than the other way around).

As a matter of fact, though I'm nearly a 25-year

vegan, I didn't discard those old shoes until 2 years

ago, when my home of 20 years burned (and I moved to

another city).

Maynard S. Clark

--- Joel Cartwright <joelc wrote:

> On Mon Mar 25, 2002, Viv wrote:

> > I had some leather boots but after a short time

> just felt too uncomfortable

> > wearing them - luckily a non-veg friend wore the

> same size as me and took

> > them from me.

>

> I feel the same; I have a pair of leather shoes for

> smart occasions,

> but I'll give them away as soon as I can afford to

> replace them with

> vegan ones.

>

> I don't think we should throw away things like

> leather shoes, but

> can't see anything wrong with giving them away. Even

> if you don't know

> someone who would take them, you can give them to a

> charity shop. As

> long as they're not going to waste.

>

> Joel.

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March 29, 2002

, " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote:

> I have a funny story -- well, funny to me and to the

> NAVS Directors who were part of it.

Erm... I don't know whether I should say this... but over the last

week veganUK has been the only thing that has made me laugh

> > I don't think we should throw away things like

> > leather shoes, but

> > can't see anything wrong with giving them away. Even

> > if you don't know

> > someone who would take them, you can give them to a

> > charity shop. As

> > long as they're not going to waste.

> >

> > Joel.

I have a really comfy pair of leather boots which i gave up

wearing... should I wear them...(I'll try to make the decision up

for my self) I'm wearing a woolly hat at the moment (I'm not sure if

its wool or not, certainly feels lke it) to cover my recently shaved

head... it was my birthday not long ago...

>

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March 29, 2002

, " geouze " <djules_75> wrote:

> Erm... I don't know whether I should say this... but over the last

> week veganUK has been the only thing that has made me laugh

I mean the things people have written on it... its been a bad week...

thanks...

March 29, 2002

On Fri Mar 29, 2002, geouze wrote:

>

> I have a really comfy pair of leather boots which i gave up

> wearing... should I wear them...(I'll try to make the decision up

> for my self) I'm wearing a woolly hat at the moment (I'm not sure if

> its wool or not, certainly feels lke it) to cover my recently shaved

> head... it was my birthday not long ago...

I think it really depends on whether you feel comfortable wearing

them. The damage has already been done to the animals, so it won't

make any difference in that respect whether you carry on wearing them

or not.

I suppose one bad thing about wearing animal-derived clothes as a

vegan is that if non-vegans see you wearing them, they may think you

don't have a problem with such clothes and perhaps buy more for you in

future.

Joel.

March 29, 2002

From a personal standpoint, I just can't bear to see the wool, leather, silk (et al, ad nauseum) on my body. I feel too guilty.

xxk@xx

Joel Cartwright [joel]29 March 2002 03:26 Subject: Re: Non-vegan possesions - what do you do with them?On Fri Mar 29, 2002, geouze wrote:> > I have a really comfy pair of leather boots which i gave up > wearing... should I wear them...(I'll try to make the decision up > for my self) I'm wearing a woolly hat at the moment (I'm not sure if > its wool or not, certainly feels lke it) to cover my recently shaved > head... it was my birthday not long ago...I think it really depends on whether you feel comfortable wearingthem. The damage has already been done to the animals, so it won'tmake any difference in that respect whether you carry on wearing themor not.I suppose one bad thing about wearing animal-derived clothes as avegan is that if non-vegans see you wearing them, they may think youdon't have a problem with such clothes and perhaps buy more for you infuture.Joel.~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -