Ethics of real vegans: How extensive and pure?

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Do vegan Brits and Irish vegans get along in the UK? (I'd like to see that discussed.) Then I'd like to see it compared quantitatively with whether vegetarian Brits an Irish vegetarians get along well with one another, and to what extent social institutions and identity are serious factors for how vegetarians and vegans act in the world and relate with others. (I can already see that "religion" and "philosophy" (and personal values) are hot topics. Perhaps "politics" is ALSO a hot topic (which could/should/would be avoided among veg*ans). Maynard S. Clark (feeling energies of many sorts from veg*ans over >1/4 century veg*anism) --- responding to poster who had typed: > maybe we should create a sub catagorie of vegans. > I remember when it was great to be a vegetarian. > Now you have to be a vegan...now you have to be a vegan who ... Sheesh......

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i am a scottish vegan of irish catholic decent and i get on well with

british vegans (except maybe if ian paisley became a vegan

 

, " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote:

> Do vegan Brits and Irish vegans get along in the UK? (I'd like to

see that discussed.) Then I'd like to see it compared quantitatively

with whether vegetarian Brits an Irish vegetarians get along well

with one another, and to what extent social institutions and identity

are serious factors for how vegetarians and vegans act in the world

and relate with others. (I can already see that " religion "

and " philosophy " (and personal values) are hot topics.

Perhaps " politics " is ALSO a hot topic (which could/should/would be

avoided among veg*ans).

>

> Maynard S. Clark

> (feeling energies of many sorts from veg*ans over

> >1/4 century veg*anism) ---

> responding to poster who had typed:

> > maybe we should create a sub catagorie of vegans.

> > I remember when it was great to be a vegetarian.

> > Now you have to be a vegan...now you have to be a vegan who ...

Sheesh......

>

>

>

>

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I don't know whether any vegans I know are Irish or not . Its not an issue

I used to work with an Irish animal eater and we got on well -shared lifts etc .

I was married to an Irish man who became veggie for me. We were together for 3 years but I left because he hit me twice and I felt frightened . I knew I could not live with such fear . he also poured orange juice over a kittens head who was trying to play with him and he wanted to annoy me ( I was telling him to play with her )

I don't see why the Irishness should be an issue .

Vegans are vegans-----aren't they ?

 

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Maynard S. Clark

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Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:09 AM

Ethics of real vegans: How extensive and pure?

Do vegan Brits and Irish vegans get along in the UK? (I'd like to see that discussed.) Then I'd like to see it compared quantitatively with whether vegetarian Brits an Irish vegetarians get along well with one another, and to what extent social institutions and identity are serious factors for how vegetarians and vegans act in the world and relate with others. (I can already see that "religion" and "philosophy" (and personal values) are hot topics. Perhaps "politics" is ALSO a hot topic (which could/should/would be avoided among veg*ans).

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My ex-friend MrBig is an Northern Irish Vegan married to a Cornish

Vegan. They were both vegetarians when they met. MrBig became vegan

the day after his Wedding (prepared buffet for 50 people themselves

and thought it might be best to go vegan after that day). Mrs Big

became Vegan one year later when their 1st child was born (Much to

MrBiGs relief!)

 

Bear in mind, they are both common as muck, and as far as cultural

differences go, it's a villager vs towny thing; rather than an Irish

vs English. But then MrBig was brought up on the Shankill Road, a

loyalist stronghold in N.I. So he is culturally defined as British

anyway, even though he shudders at the thought of it, and his

relationship with MrsBigs tabloid reading " Pro-British " father is

far from complimentry.

 

 

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, " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote:

> Do vegan Brits and Irish vegans get along in the UK? (I'd like to

see that discussed.)

[Guest guest]

> Do vegan Brits and Irish vegans get along in the UK?

 

Beyond certain communities in Northen Ireland where there is

an issue of nationality and politics at stake (and if you break

down nationhood in such them and us way then, as 'British Irish'

which side do you class them on?) why do you think Brits and

the Irish wouldn't get along? Have you been watching to much

CNN?

 

Michael

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> > Do vegan Brits and Irish vegans get along in the UK?

 

what the $%@£ has being vegan got to do with getting on with someone?

 

two Japanese people sitting in bus opposite you ... do you assume that they

are friends? just because they are two people from a different culture

together amongst a bus full of Westerners? they are probably hate each

other... some of the words that flew around between Japanese overseas

students at uni ... just like a bunch of brits would be over in Japan ...

 

you see two cats ... will they get on or not? ... we just don't know till

you put them in a box together...

 

just cos A is bonkers and B is bonkers doesn't mean A will like B ... where

bonkers is 'vegan', 'Royalist' 'French' 'a sausage' ....

 

whether Brit vegans and Irish vegans get along is a matter of whether or not

they get along ... there are no rules about it....

 

Z

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I still like you Oliver. When my old friend MrBig first moved to

England/Wales...so many people would say to him... " oh you're

Irish...I've got a friend who's Irish...I'll have to introduce you! "

 

And MrBig would say to them " * & @%*% & @*$ & #%** $ & *@% & %*# & ^^ @$£ "

# & £# "

 

I think thats how it's spelt.

 

 

Dr P.C.Talking

 

 

, Oliver Slay <oliver@l...> wrote:

> > > Do vegan Brits and Irish vegans get along in the UK?

>

> what the $%@£ has being vegan got to do with getting on with

someone?

>

> two Japanese people sitting in bus opposite you ... do you assume

that they

> are friends? just because they are two people from a different

culture

> together amongst a bus full of Westerners? they are probably hate

each

> other... some of the words that flew around between Japanese

overseas

> students at uni ... just like a bunch of brits would be over in

Japan ...

>

> you see two cats ... will they get on or not? ... we just don't

know till

> you put them in a box together...

>

> just cos A is bonkers and B is bonkers doesn't mean A will like

B ... where

> bonkers is 'vegan', 'Royalist' 'French' 'a sausage' ....

>

> whether Brit vegans and Irish vegans get along is a matter of

whether or not

> they get along ... there are no rules about it....

>

> Z