Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Well, BFG was Dahl's *Big Friendly Giant*, but what is BSG, Graham? Janey x - " Graham Burnett " <grahamburnett Saturday, April 13, 2002 10:03 AM A positive incentive???? Re: Digest Number 39 > >Yup, you're right, and they were off topic too!. Even I didn't think to > change them so off to the naughty cornet for me. > > Oo Michael, do we all get an ice cream each time we break the VUK rules? I > do hope you've checked it's suitable for vegans... > > BSG :-) > > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Brave Sir Graham. , " Janey " <janey@p...> wrote: > Well, BFG was Dahl's *Big Friendly Giant*, but what is BSG, Graham? > > Janey > x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means that everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). , " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > Brave Sir Graham. > > > , " Janey " <janey@p...> wrote: > > Well, BFG was Dahl's *Big Friendly Giant*, but what is BSG, Graham? > > > > Janey > > x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 On Sun Apr 14, 2002, djules_75 wrote: > Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- > network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means that > everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what > Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). Are you sure it's just you Jules? I'm getting mail from vegan-network, but most of the features are locked on the website; it only has 'Home' and 'Post' links, no archive etc. I've no idea what's going on there though. Joel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- > network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means that > everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what > Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). Geez jules drop the 'everybody hates me' stance- why would I lie??? I don't know what John is doing with VN, he made me a co-moderator mainly cos I wanted to access some of my own posts in the archive, and put the list on moderation cos trolls & hackers with a personal issue with him were invading the list... When i last looked at VN there was nobody awaiting moderation at the moment, I personally actually passed you for re-signing up over a week ago (which John was totally happy with), so maybe it's a problem with your ISP, your computer or ??? if you have an issue take it up with John, and stop playing the victim role fer chrisakes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 PS. Have forwarded this to John (vegan Network list owner), which may be against the rules as he's not a member of this list and blardey blar, but it seems to me that it would be more helpful to address the relevant person than spread about words like 'liar' etc. HTH BSG , " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > > Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- > > network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means > that > > everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what > > Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). > > Geez jules drop the 'everybody hates me' stance- why would I lie??? > I don't know what John is doing with VN, he made me a co-moderator > mainly cos I wanted to access some of my own posts in the archive, > and put the list on moderation cos trolls & hackers with a personal > issue with him were invading the list... When i last looked at VN > there was nobody awaiting moderation at the moment, I personally > actually passed you for re-signing up over a week ago (which John > was totally happy with), so maybe it's a problem with your ISP, your > computer or ??? if you have an issue take it up with > John, and stop playing the victim role fer chrisakes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Aww sorry graham (sincere). I've just got a problem with the internet in general I think. I'm not playing any stance, its just that anything I seem to write on it turns out wrong, except when I write about factual content or my cat Lux. I wouldn't normally use the internet, but I need to have some kind of interaction with other vegans. Anyway, I don't see any difference in me saying 'he's a liar' and some of the other stuff that gets spouted/typed on this list. You're all a bunch of attention seekers, (except those of you who aren't): you know who you are! (fake digital smile) Jules , " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > PS. Have forwarded this to John (vegan Network list owner), which > may be against the rules as he's not a member of this list and > blardey blar, but it seems to me that it would be more helpful to > address the relevant person than spread about words like 'liar' etc. > > HTH > BSG > > , " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > > , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- > > > network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means > > that > > > everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). > > > > Geez jules drop the 'everybody hates me' stance- why would I > lie??? > > I don't know what John is doing with VN, he made me a co- moderator > > mainly cos I wanted to access some of my own posts in the archive, > > and put the list on moderation cos trolls & hackers with a > personal > > issue with him were invading the list... When i last looked at VN > > there was nobody awaiting moderation at the moment, I personally > > actually passed you for re-signing up over a week ago (which John > > was totally happy with), so maybe it's a problem with your ISP, > your > > computer or ??? if you have an issue take it up with > > John, and stop playing the victim role fer chrisakes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 , Joel Cartwright <joel@f...> wrote: > Are you sure it's just you Jules? I'm getting mail from vegan- network, > but most of the features are locked on the website; it only has 'Home' > and 'Post' links, no archive etc. I've no idea what's going on there > though. > > Joel. Oh I was wrong then: thats the same problem I have, I wrote to the group twice to ask what was going on, and got no answer, hence the frustrated vindictive 'liar' accusation (sorry again Graham). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Where do you live Jules . Are there no groups near you at all ? - djules_75 Monday, April 15, 2002 4:48 AM Re: Graham I need to have some kind of interaction with other vegans. Jules~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 I did reply on Vegan-Network to your last posting there, didn't you get it? > I still can't get back on vegan- >network, Via the web site? No one can except moderators, it was changed. >and yet I am still recieving mail from it, And everything you are sending is still getting through. You're seeing and getting the same service as the rest of us. Still I do think it is a very bad way of running the list to make all those changes without saying anything. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 >PS. Have forwarded this to John (vegan Network list owner), which >may be against the rules as he's not a member of this list... Oh, heck. Yeah it is against the rules and although I doubt anyone thinks there is anything wrong in that in this instance (I admit to apply that rule here is pedantic) if I let people make their own judgment we get into the same mess that caused the rule to be created. I wish people could be trusted. Really, in future can you ask me for permission first, however stupid it seems having to ask. Michael > and >blardey blar, but it seems to me that it would be more helpful to >address the relevant person than spread about words like 'liar' etc. > >HTH >BSG > >, " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > > , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- > > > network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means > > that > > > everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). > > > > Geez jules drop the 'everybody hates me' stance- why would I >lie??? > > I don't know what John is doing with VN, he made me a co-moderator > > mainly cos I wanted to access some of my own posts in the archive, > > and put the list on moderation cos trolls & hackers with a >personal > > issue with him were invading the list... When i last looked at VN > > there was nobody awaiting moderation at the moment, I personally > > actually passed you for re-signing up over a week ago (which John > > was totally happy with), so maybe it's a problem with your ISP, >your > > computer or ??? if you have an issue take it up with > > John, and stop playing the victim role fer chrisakes... > > > >~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >--------------------------- >Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Sorry Micheal I was a bit pissed and also pissed off as well... BSG , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> wrote: > > >PS. Have forwarded this to John (vegan Network list owner), which > >may be against the rules as he's not a member of this list... > > Oh, heck. Yeah it is against the rules and although I doubt anyone thinks > there is anything wrong in that in this instance (I admit to apply that > rule here is pedantic) if I let people make their own judgment we get into > the same mess that caused the rule to be created. I wish people could be > trusted. > > Really, in future can you ask me for permission first, however stupid it > seems having to ask. > > Michael > > > > > > and > >blardey blar, but it seems to me that it would be more helpful to > >address the relevant person than spread about words like 'liar' etc. > > > >HTH > >BSG > > > >, " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > > > , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- > > > > network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means > > > that > > > > everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what > > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). > > > > > > Geez jules drop the 'everybody hates me' stance- why would I > >lie??? > > > I don't know what John is doing with VN, he made me a co- moderator > > > mainly cos I wanted to access some of my own posts in the archive, > > > and put the list on moderation cos trolls & hackers with a > >personal > > > issue with him were invading the list... When i last looked at VN > > > there was nobody awaiting moderation at the moment, I personally > > > actually passed you for re-signing up over a week ago (which John > > > was totally happy with), so maybe it's a problem with your ISP, > >your > > > computer or ??? if you have an issue take it up with > > > John, and stop playing the victim role fer chrisakes... > > > > > > > >~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > >there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > >--------------------------- > >Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > >Un: send a blank message to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > Aww sorry graham (sincere). that's Ok Jules- you caught me at a bad time having had a blazing row earlier in the day with some control freak down at my allotment site- I still don't really appreciate being personally abused tho... Cheers BSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 , " Angie Wright " <angiewright@n...> wrote: > Are there no groups near you at all ? There probably are. I tried to find some. But I've got exams coming up soon and I want to do well in them because I want to move to another area in september when I'll cvarry on studying. Its probably best I don't meet anyone new at the moment. Jules > > Angie > - > djules_75 > > Monday, April 15, 2002 4:48 AM > Re: Graham > > > I need to have some kind of interaction with other > vegans. > Jules > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> wrote: > > >PS. Have forwarded this to John (vegan Network list owner), which > >may be against the rules as he's not a member of this list... > > Oh, heck. Yeah it is against the rules and although I doubt anyone thinks > there is anything wrong in that in this instance (I admit to apply that > rule here is pedantic) if I let people make their own judgment we get into > the same mess that caused the rule to be created. I wish people could be > trusted. > > Really, in future can you ask me for permission first, however stupid it > seems having to ask. YEAH MR BRAVE SIR GRAHAM. THANKS FOR NOTHING. Jules > > Michael > > > > > > and > >blardey blar, but it seems to me that it would be more helpful to > >address the relevant person than spread about words like 'liar' etc. > > > >HTH > >BSG > > > >, " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > > > , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham is a liar. I still can't get back on vegan- > > > > network, and yet I am still recieving mail from it, which means > > > that > > > > everyone else on the list didn't get moderated (which is what > > > > Brave 'Sir' Graham told me). > > > > > > Geez jules drop the 'everybody hates me' stance- why would I > >lie??? > > > I don't know what John is doing with VN, he made me a co- moderator > > > mainly cos I wanted to access some of my own posts in the archive, > > > and put the list on moderation cos trolls & hackers with a > >personal > > > issue with him were invading the list... When i last looked at VN > > > there was nobody awaiting moderation at the moment, I personally > > > actually passed you for re-signing up over a week ago (which John > > > was totally happy with), so maybe it's a problem with your ISP, > >your > > > computer or ??? if you have an issue take it up with > > > John, and stop playing the victim role fer chrisakes... > > > > > > > >~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > >there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > >--------------------------- > >Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > >Un: send a blank message to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 , " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > , " djules_75 " <djules_75> wrote: > > Aww sorry graham (sincere). > > that's Ok Jules- you caught me at a bad time having had a blazing > row earlier in the day with some control freak down at my allotment > site- I still don't really appreciate being personally abused tho... > Well I don't drink beer much, but sometimes I do. And abusive people exist. And I've had to come to accept that vegan ones do too, but I'd assumed because of the digital atmosphere in this internetroom you'd take it in good stead. (Snail mail rocks!) Jules > Cheers BSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 > > > YEAH MR BRAVE SIR GRAHAM. THANKS FOR NOTHING. > > Jules > > > Oh grow up Jules. Why don't you communicate with john instead of spreading all the Vegan Network business around here and acting like a drama queen? You had it explained to you why VN was placed on moderation, which was nothing to do with you and your posts (which were responded to positively and constructively, including by John) you also had the post forwarded to you by me that explained that John had no problem with approving your membership of VN, but it seems it's more dramatic to keep making out that John allan is victimising you. I suggest if you wish to continue this that it be taken to Vegans uncensored. BSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 >YEAH MR BRAVE SIR GRAHAM. THANKS FOR NOTHING. Actually I was only telling Graham off for technically breaking the rules, I don't think being rude is appropriate as he was only trying to help. >I suggest if you wish to continue this that it be >taken to Vegans uncensored. Hmm, quite, yeah. Damn, everyone will think Graham's in charge now. I have no idea what's going on at vegan network (someone should post something on there, although it is returning to 'normal') but if you do want to have a got at people then this list isn't the place to do it. I am not afraid to moderate. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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