Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 I've decided to forget the idea of going vegetarian. I decided earlier today. Last night I felt like puking up, and today I felt like I had been trampled underfoot, I had wierd dreams, and really felt bad, stupid and guilty. Incidentally I decided to go back to veganism before I logged on to the group. But thanks for all the replies, I felt well supported when I read them. I was going to go back to veganism whether I'd read anything from you lot or not. But you've helped me feel a bit less depressed. I suffered a few days ago from a really severe reality shock, as my best friend stabbed me in the back, my mum threatened to kick me out of home, my dad has been pushing me to buy him cannibis for the last few months (which was the cause of some of my problems in the first place), and to top it college started as usual, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that for me going to college is often like going to war (because I'm vegan). The heat wave of the spring, the oppressive unwritten rules and superstitions of canterbury, the fact that I was trying to escape through smoking cannibis (bad idea) and it was all too much. I'm ok now. Oh yeah, and graham was telling me to stop taking on the 'everybody hates me' attitude, (fair enough, I have been, I can't help it at the moment) so I lost faith in discussing it on the group before I decided to eat some dairy. Thanks again for the replies, I read all of them, I'm replying to all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Hi Jules Good to hear you're back to veganism! Sounds like you're happy with that decision as well. I'm really pleased. Don't bow to peer pressure, just do what's right for you. Janey x - " djules_75 " <djules_75 Friday, April 19, 2002 8:22 PM To Hell with Public Opinion > I've decided to forget the idea of going vegetarian. I decided > earlier today. Last night I felt like puking up, and today I felt > like I had been trampled underfoot, I had wierd dreams, and really > felt bad, stupid and guilty. Incidentally I decided to go back to > veganism before I logged on to the group. But thanks for all the > replies, I felt well supported when I read them. > > I was going to go back to veganism whether I'd read anything from you > lot or not. But you've helped me feel a bit less depressed. > > I suffered a few days ago from a really severe reality shock, as my > best friend stabbed me in the back, my mum threatened to kick me out > of home, my dad has been pushing me to buy him cannibis for the last > few months (which was the cause of some of my problems in the first > place), and to top it college started as usual, and I'm not > exaggerating when I say that for me going to college is often like > going to war (because I'm vegan). The heat wave of the spring, the > oppressive unwritten rules and superstitions of canterbury, the fact > that I was trying to escape through smoking cannibis (bad idea) and > it was all too much. I'm ok now. > > Oh yeah, and graham was telling me to stop taking on the 'everybody > hates me' attitude, (fair enough, I have been, I can't help it at the > moment) so I lost faith in discussing it on the group before I > decided to eat some dairy. > > Thanks again for the replies, I read all of them, I'm replying to all > of them. > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 -----Original Message----- djules_75 [djules_75] 19 April 2002 20:23 To Hell with Public Opinion I've decided to forget the idea of going vegetarian. I decided earlier today. Last night I felt like puking up, and today I felt like I had been trampled underfoot, I had wierd dreams, and really felt bad, stupid and guilty. Incidentally I decided to go back to veganism before I logged on to the group. But thanks for all the replies, I felt well supported when I read them. I was going to go back to veganism whether I'd read anything from you lot or not. But you've helped me feel a bit less depressed. I suffered a few days ago from a really severe reality shock, as my best friend stabbed me in the back, my mum threatened to kick me out of home, my dad has been pushing me to buy him cannibis for the last few months (which was the cause of some of my problems in the first place), and to top it college started as usual, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that for me going to college is often like going to war (because I'm vegan). The heat wave of the spring, the oppressive unwritten rules and superstitions of canterbury, the fact that I was trying to escape through smoking cannibis (bad idea) and it was all too much. I'm ok now. Oh yeah, and graham was telling me to stop taking on the 'everybody hates me' attitude, (fair enough, I have been, I can't help it at the moment) so I lost faith in discussing it on the group before I decided to eat some dairy. Thanks again for the replies, I read all of them, I'm replying to all of them. ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 > > Oh yeah, and graham was telling me to stop taking on the 'everybody > hates me' attitude, (fair enough, I have been, I can't help it at the > moment) so I lost faith in discussing it on the group before I > decided to eat some dairy. Ah so it's all my fault... Naughty BSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 It seems fair to say your dad is a very BAD INFLUENCE! Parents are supposed to most definitely discourage their kids from drugs, not get their kids to get drugs for them! Your dad sounds like a prize jerk. You need to stay clean and tell your dad you will shop him if he uses drugs. It's called tough love and parents do it to kids who use drugs, make them accountable for breaking the law, in this case it would be the other way round, but you might be more mature and responsible than your dad, it should be easier for you to be clean from drugs even if you have been on cannabis as you are younger and presumably not as addicted and messed up as your dad. I have a really great vegan friend in Canterbury actually, and she might be able to point you in the direction of some others, can I pass your email address to her? Lesley djules_75 [djules_75] 19 April 2002 20:23 To Hell with Public Opinion I've decided to forget the idea of going vegetarian. I decided earlier today. Last night I felt like puking up, and today I felt like I had been trampled underfoot, I had wierd dreams, and really felt bad, stupid and guilty. Incidentally I decided to go back to veganism before I logged on to the group. But thanks for all the replies, I felt well supported when I read them. I was going to go back to veganism whether I'd read anything from you lot or not. But you've helped me feel a bit less depressed. I suffered a few days ago from a really severe reality shock, as my best friend stabbed me in the back, my mum threatened to kick me out of home, my dad has been pushing me to buy him cannibis for the last few months (which was the cause of some of my problems in the first place), and to top it college started as usual, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that for me going to college is often like going to war (because I'm vegan). The heat wave of the spring, the oppressive unwritten rules and superstitions of canterbury, the fact that I was trying to escape through smoking cannibis (bad idea) and it was all too much. I'm ok now. Oh yeah, and graham was telling me to stop taking on the 'everybody hates me' attitude, (fair enough, I have been, I can't help it at the moment) so I lost faith in discussing it on the group before I decided to eat some dairy. Thanks again for the replies, I read all of them, I'm replying to all of them. ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2002 Report Share Posted April 21, 2002 Yeah my mum did the tough love thing, after two months of hiding it from her, I confroonted her (she's really antidrugs) and explained that sometrimes my dad and i weere smoking pot. She threatened to call the police and huge conflict occurred. I'm not addicted to it, but I appreciate its recreational use, but it almost broke up our home so I've insisted to my dad that I'm not going to buy it anymore, if only for his birthday or something. Yeah sur you can pass on my email: djules_75 Jules , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > It seems fair to say your dad is a very BAD INFLUENCE! > Parents are supposed to most definitely discourage their kids from drugs, > not get their kids to get drugs for them! Your dad sounds like a prize jerk. > You need to stay clean and tell your dad you will shop him if he uses drugs. > It's called tough love and parents do it to kids who use drugs, make them > accountable for breaking the law, in this case it would be the other way > round, but you might be more mature and responsible than your dad, it should > be easier for you to be clean from drugs even if you have been on cannabis > as you are younger and presumably not as addicted and messed up as your dad. > > I have a really great vegan friend in Canterbury actually, and she might be > able to point you in the direction of some others, can I pass your email > address to her? > > Lesley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 you haven't been listening to him ... he's already messed up ... he feels he takes too many drugs ... enough already to look ill in the morning ... then he justifies this 'looking ill' to anyone he feels in authority by blaming it on his own diet... so now his teacher probably believes firmly that 'veganism causes people to be ill' ... so much for the education of the masses to a better way of living... > > Lesley Dove [Lesley] > > as you are younger and presumably not as addicted and messed > up as your dad. > > > Lesley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 ooh smoking pot ... big crime ... you'll go down for that you will ... next time tell her to call the police... get the names of some good drugs testing labs ... and give her the numbers... then tell her to be as petty as she can be.... (yes i'm well aware she's coming from the (selfish) mothering love point of view... all the more pity to jules...) after i took mushrooms i called my mother and told her about it ... same as after i took acid... and then i told her when i did ecstacy every night ... then when i stopped i told her that i thought ecstacy had drained my life away ... that after three years of clubbing and drinking, i had found the best drug of them all... sobriety. she freaked initially ... but i told her to stop being a mother and to listen as a friend... to listen as a student ... (she started her Art degree course when i finished mine...) ... and from then on she has listened... and it makes it easier... > > djules_75 [djules_75] > > > Yeah my mum did the tough love thing, after two months of hiding it > from her, I confroonted her (she's really antidrugs) and explained > that sometrimes my dad and i weere smoking pot. She threatened to > call the police and huge conflict occurred. I'm not addicted to it, > but I appreciate its recreational use, but it almost broke up our > home so I've insisted to my dad that I'm not going to buy it anymore, > if only for his birthday or something. > > Yeah sur you can pass on my email: djules_75 > > Jules > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 she's ok with my sobriety now ... i think she can handle the truth.... > > Oliver Slay [oliver] > > that after three years of clubbing and drinking, i had found > the best drug > of them all... > > sobriety. > > she freaked initially ... but i told her to stop being a mother and to > listen as a friend... to listen as a student ... (she started her Art > degree course when i finished mine...) ... and from then on she has > listened... and it makes it easier... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 , Oliver Slay <oliver@l...> wrote: > you haven't been listening to him ... he's already messed up ... Do you feel I'm a lost cause then? > he feels he takes too many drugs ... enough already to look ill in the > morning ... > > then he justifies this 'looking ill' to anyone he feels in authority by > blaming it on his own diet... What a load of crap. > > so now his teacher probably believes firmly that 'veganism causes people to > be ill' ... so much for the education of the masses to a better way of > living... > Its difficult being the only vegan in my college, sorry I can't be perfect as well. > > > > > > Lesley Dove [Lesley@v...] > > > > as you are younger and presumably not as addicted and messed > > up as your dad. > > > > > > Lesley > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 > Do you feel I'm a lost cause then? no... i don't feel anything about it... put it behind you... forget it... move on... observe yourself... but don't put yourself down... just observe... and in that act of observation you will spontaneously change... be sensitive to everything... and you will find the real treasure... > > then he justifies this 'looking ill' to anyone he feels in > authority by > > blaming it on his own diet... > > What a load of crap. fair enough... i don't know you... i just read what you write... " To be fair to my physics teacher, I think he was genuinely worried about me. I'd turned up to the first physics lesson completrely drugged out of my head, and had to hide it because its illegal, he thought it was because of my food, and this was a severe blow to me because the whole class was listening and I was giving veganism a bad name. " to be fair to the physics teacher... he was duped... to be fair on you... you were scared... > Its difficult being the only vegan in my college, sorry I can't be > perfect as well. is this a small college? yes.. it's hard being the only vegan within a prison... but the prison is not the world... and there are more vegans outside of your college than there are students in your college... if it makes you feel any better - i think being imperfect is perfect.. " if you are sensitive to evreything then you will suffer more than someone who is insensitive to everything " z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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