Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 I agree actually, and I think they ought to arrange the AGM in different places to avoid the same people being disenfranchised every time. I live near London but I would agree to it moving around the country. Lesley , Ian McDonald <ian@m...> wrote: > > > Lesley Dove wrote: > > > > I know you would probably choose for parents to not be > > allowed to participate as there is no childcare, you seem to think we > > have forfeited our equality by having children, but forget it, it > > aint going to happen because parents have an equal democratic right > > to get involved in the groups they belong to, and we will strive for > > that right (even with our poor tired eyes held open with > > matchsticks!). > > Rights are nonsense on stilts. You have a right (meaning it's part of > your agreement with the society) to come along to the AGM and vote. You > do not have a *right* to have other people meet *your* other > commitments in order to free you up to attend. > > Because children are a fairly common and important 'other commitment', > it would still be nice to try to meet it if practical - otherwise, some > parents will be unable to come. I think a bigger 'disenfranchisement' > issue is those vegans who are, in practice, disenfranchised by not being > able to afford to visit London for the AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Lesley Dove wrote: > > I agree actually, and I think they ought to arrange the AGM in > different places to avoid the same people being disenfranchised every > time. I live near London but I would agree to it moving around the > country. > > Lesley > That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year. And London has got pretty good transport links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 It would still be fairer and they could always rotate it between a handful of large cities such as Birmingham, Manchester and Glasgow. All those would be well-linked by public transport. I would not think it was a good idea to hold it in the middle of the countryside. Lesley , Ian McDonald <ian@m...> wrote: > > > Lesley Dove wrote: > > > > I agree actually, and I think they ought to arrange the AGM in > > different places to avoid the same people being disenfranchised every > > time. I live near London but I would agree to it moving around the > > country. > > > > Lesley > > > > That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year. > And London has got pretty good transport links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 >That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year. >And London has got pretty good transport links. I tend to find Southerners always say that. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 I live near London but my loyalties would tend to be with Northern vegans, as I am from Cheshire, and northerners are more friendly in my experience anyway. Lesley , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> wrote: > > >That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year. > >And London has got pretty good transport links. > > I tend to find Southerners always say that. > > Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Yes, because we're the ones who count - London rules! Keep it in London I say. And if looks like there might be a punch up (poss followed by a drink in a lovely, smoky pub) I'll forego my day at work & come along to shout the participants on... Viv "You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" www.veganvillage.co.uk www.vegansociety.com Mavreela [nec.lists]Monday, October 07, 2002 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: Rights, Good ideas, and practical problems>That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year.>And London has got pretty good transport links.I tend to find Southerners always say that.Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 except to Leeds .. cos trains aren't stopping there during next weekend's works ... too busy to stop in Leeds i was told... Mavreela [nec.lists]>That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year.>And London has got pretty good transport links.I tend to find Southerners always say that.Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 >except to Leeds .. cos trains aren't stopping there during next weekend's >works ... too busy to stop in Leeds i was told... I remember that time when no trains went to London, I made the mistake of getting the first train leaving Euston (10:30 to Birmingham, sometime over Christmas), took an hour and half just to get to Watford. Good transport links indeed. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 But I'm Yorkshire, born and bred! Mavreela wrote: > > >That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year. > >And London has got pretty good transport links. > > I tend to find Southerners always say that. > > Michael > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Sundays can be bad with engineering works. Lesley , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> wrote: > > >except to Leeds .. cos trains aren't stopping there during next weekend's > >works ... too busy to stop in Leeds i was told... > > I remember that time when no trains went to London, I made the mistake of > getting the first train leaving Euston (10:30 to Birmingham, sometime over > Christmas), took an hour and half just to get to Watford. > > Good transport links indeed. > > Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 You sound too posh! Lesley , Ian McDonald <ian@m...> wrote: > But I'm Yorkshire, born and bred! > > Mavreela wrote: > > > > >That would just disenfranchise a different group of people every year. > > >And London has got pretty good transport links. > > > > I tend to find Southerners always say that. > > > > Michael > > > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > > --------------------------- > > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > > Un: send a blank message to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 my girlfriend was on that train... Mavreela [nec.lists]I remember that time when no trains went to London, I made the mistake of getting the first train leaving Euston (10:30 to Birmingham, sometime over Christmas), took an hour and half just to get to Watford.Good transport links indeed.Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 >my girlfriend was on that train... Small world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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