Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Hi Nick, I went straight from omni to vegan without doing the veggie thing. Personally veggie never made sense... given battery-hens as the most well known bad husbandry practise. Maybe it's because I'm not coming from the animals shouldn't be eaten angle, rather if animals are being kept, then they should be treated well. Now been vegan 10 years (helpfully, still with the girlfriend that got me into the vegan thing in the first place). Converting doesn't have to be 100% overnight experience... you could try and make sure you have a vegan meal every week, and build up. 'Though (harking back to why I went omni to vegan) at least the rules for vegan are fairly easy ... Q : " Why no honey ? " A : " it comes from bees, they're living things, that's the rule I'm adopting " . Things that I found helped : 1) Living in London and having the chance to find all sorts of cool places to eat. 2) Enjoying cooking and trying new dishes 3) Availability of Scheese (now also Cheezly), Tofitti cream cheese, and horseradish Fromsoy. I definitely agree that cheese is the toughest break. In place of meat products, there's the obligatory nut-roast, and I could eat tempeh most days :-) However, going from meat & 2-veg to meat replacement and 2-veg isn't getting the most from eating vegan. Lots of salad vegetables and grated root veg in summer, steamers full of veggies in winter, some mixed grains and lentils on the side... explore chinese supermarkets for interesting things... I find supermarkets much less stressful now that I know that most of their contents is not of interest to me... only the Co-op's a problem 'cos I'll look at tempting things to see if they're labelled vegan (and I'm hooked on bourbon biscuits...). Giving parents a copy of the Vegan Soc. Animal Free Shopper makes it less difficult for them... 'though my mothers reaction to my changeover was basically " he's always liked his vegetables " ... Steve W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Steve Welburn wrote: > > Hi Nick, > > I went straight from omni to vegan without doing the veggie thing. > Personally veggie never made sense... given battery-hens as the most well > known bad husbandry practise. I know some veggies that treat non-free range eggs as just as bad as meat. (Even my omni parents tell me they buy free range now, and are aware of the not-so-free-range con.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Hi Steve, Many thanks for that! Sorry to reply a bit late. Considering it was 10 yrs ago going 100% from one to the other must have been challenging! I bought Scheese a while ago but it is still sitting in the fridge (!) I'll have to drag it out and use it.... Thanks for mentioning lentils - I had forgotten about them! Regards, Nick Steve Welburn [] 13 October 2002 00:23 RE: Conversion Hi Nick, I went straight from omni to vegan without doing the veggie thing. Personally veggie never made sense... given battery-hens as the most well known bad husbandry practise. Maybe it's because I'm not coming from the animals shouldn't be eaten angle, rather if animals are being kept, then they should be treated well. Now been vegan 10 years (helpfully, still with the girlfriend that got me into the vegan thing in the first place). Converting doesn't have to be 100% overnight experience... you could try and make sure you have a vegan meal every week, and build up. 'Though (harking back to why I went omni to vegan) at least the rules for vegan are fairly easy ... Q : " Why no honey ? " A : " it comes from bees, they're living things, that's the rule I'm adopting " . Things that I found helped : 1) Living in London and having the chance to find all sorts of cool places to eat. 2) Enjoying cooking and trying new dishes 3) Availability of Scheese (now also Cheezly), Tofitti cream cheese, and horseradish Fromsoy. I definitely agree that cheese is the toughest break. In place of meat products, there's the obligatory nut-roast, and I could eat tempeh most days :-) However, going from meat & 2-veg to meat replacement and 2-veg isn't getting the most from eating vegan. Lots of salad vegetables and grated root veg in summer, steamers full of veggies in winter, some mixed grains and lentils on the side... explore chinese supermarkets for interesting things... I find supermarkets much less stressful now that I know that most of their contents is not of interest to me... only the Co-op's a problem 'cos I'll look at tempting things to see if they're labelled vegan (and I'm hooked on bourbon biscuits...). Giving parents a copy of the Vegan Soc. Animal Free Shopper makes it less difficult for them... 'though my mothers reaction to my changeover was basically " he's always liked his vegetables " ... Steve W ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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