Guest guest Posted August 26, 1999 Report Share Posted August 26, 1999 What type of vegetarian are you? lacto/ovo How old were you when you became a vegetarian? 16 How old are you now? 20 What was your main reason for becoming vegetarian? Don't really know...I guess it was a mix of animal right concerns, health concerns. I had been thinking about it for a while but I didn't become veg until I had made some veg friends and seen for myself that one could survive without meat. Are you an animal rights activist? not especially, I care about the issue but I don't think that I am an activist where do you live? Houston, TX Is anyone else in your family a vegetarian? nope How many vegetarian friends do you have? 1 good friends, but I know several others (mostly of Indian/Hindu origin) Do you try to eat organic? no Are your friends and family supportive of your vegetarianism? yeah, they thinks its funny and sometimes will make a little fun of me, but mostly don't try to convince me to switch back (sometimes I think that some of them think it is still a fad after 4 years) Do you wear leather or other animal products? not generally What's your favorite vegetarian/vegan: cookbook? don't have a veg cookbook website? veggie burger? morningstar veggie dog? none frozen entree? smart ones (weight watchers) brand? morningstar (esp. their buffalo wings) mail order catalog? store? restauraunt? Mexican restauant called Casa Ole milk alternative? cheese alternative? egg substitute? entree? dessert? strawberry cheese cake and ice cream (tie) candy? side dish? breakfast? columbo yogurt book/guide? magazine?new woman mailing list? beverage?V-8 splash (strawberry kiwi or tropical) meat alternative? morningstar crumbles way to prepare tofu? fried in sesame oil (i know, its bad for you) way to prepare tempeh? way to prepare seitan? other comments: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 For all those who aren't against getting the odd product from the supermarkets. Sainsburys now do their own brand of dairy free toffee and walnut icecream which is really yummy. Just thought I'd let people know. Rowan _______________IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Thanks, Rowan... I don't reckon that it's vegan, though. It's the Free-From range, isn't it? Those items in that range are all definitely labelled suitable for vegans, if they are. xxk@xx Rowan McCartney [be99rnm]17 October 2002 16:22 Subject: Re: Digest Number 202 For all those who aren't against getting the odd product from the supermarkets. Sainsburys now do their own brand of dairy free toffee and walnut icecream which is really yummy. Just thought I'd let people know. Rowan _______________IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 >I don't reckon that it's vegan, though. It's the Free-From range, isn't >it? Those items in that range are all definitely labelled suitable for >vegans, if they are. Ditto, I went once (not easy to get to for me) to see the new free-from range and decided against it because it was only labeled " Suitable for vegetarians " , and all new packaging explicitly mentions vegans now. Apparently though Simon (on V Uncensored) was waiting for a reply from Sainsbury's to confirm it is vegan as it seems it might be after all. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I often spread humus on a thin pita or another thin bread and then add tabouleh to it! Give it a try, it tastes great! Nicolette > Re: Has Anyone Noticed? > > > There > > have been many days I could eat and eat tabouli, for > > example and never quite become satiated enough to not > > eat for hours. However, if I eat something like a > > bean burrito, I can go hours with no interest in food. > > Well, I don't know how you make *your* tabouli, but mine is mostly > parsley (and/or coriander leaves or mint leaves) with a little onion and > tomato plus the bulgar wheat. It's salad. I think you'd find the bean > burrito more satisfying because it would provide more energy, you know? > Calories? But of course those extra calories, unless you 'burn' them off > with more activity, keep your weight up. Even if you don't 'count' > calories, it still kinda works this way. That satifaction comes at a > price. > > Another point: many people suggest we shouldn't try to go hours without > food but, to lose extra weight, we should try dividing our daily intake > of food into six smaller meals rather than three. > > For myself, I find that the tabouli, to use your example, would be great > as part of a meal for nutritional purposes and for taste (love it!) and > for something to munch on (chewing feels better than just gulping > somehow), but I myself feel less hungry if I have something *hot*. A hot > meal or hot soup, even just a heated vegetable broth, will keep me and > my tum happier ;=) That could be another reason why you find your bean > burrito more satisfying. > > If I can't get anything hot, I really do find that a banana works great > as a pick-me-up too - and bananas have the advantage of being easily portable. > > Best, > > Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 > > have been many days I could eat and eat tabouli, > for > > example and never quite become satiated enough to > not > > eat for hours. However, if I eat something like a > > bean burrito, I can go hours with no interest in > food. > > Well, I don't know how you make *your* tabouli, but > mine is mostly > parsley (and/or coriander leaves or mint leaves) > with a little onion and > tomato plus the bulgar wheat. It's salad. I think > you'd find the bean > burrito more satisfying because it would provide > more energy, you know? > Calories? I didn't make myself clear. I could easily eat 1,000 calories of bread or tabouli (and yes, I do make it the way you do, too) and yet I would never be as satisfied as if I had a 300-400 calorie burrito. For me, it's the beans (the protein here in this case) that makes the difference. I've noticed this over and over again with different foods...when I add more protein in the form of beans or tofu I get satisfied sooner and longer had I not. So I don't think it's a calories issue at all but rather a nutrient balance issue. I do agree with the heat issue...hot meals are more satisfying especially when it's cold out. There is some belief that the warm helps give us more energy and the heat of meals helps our body digest (by not stealing more heat to do so). I am not attracted to the philosophy of the Atkins diet at all...especially the lack of regard for eating animals and the almost zealousness over protein...but I can admit he is right about this item. I am kind of grateful because now when I eat more protein...I no longer overeat and eat less food in general. Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Okay, understood - you really meant protein ;=) And yes sometimes we need protein rather than more salad! And a balanced vegetarian diet would provide beans or tofu or lentils or tempeh or certain grains or, for ovo-lacto vegetarians, cheese, eggs and/or milk, along with the salad and other veg. I don't think the need for protein is in dispute - what we might wonder is whether all this emphasis on protein from some dieting 'warehouses' doesn't obscure the need for other nutrients. And we are agreed on that anyway! ;=) Since you mention calories and this is a health and slimming group, tofu is very efficient as a protein source. If you find its taste too 'beige', it is quickly brightened up if you slice the firm variety into thin strips or small cubes and marinate it for a few minutes or longer in a sprinkle of turmeric and soy sauce or Braggs seasoning before adding to what's in your skillet. I love using tofu and tempeh - ready cooked and sitting in the fridge ready to be added to soups, stir fries, stews and fried rice or noodles as well as the softer variety being a handy ingredient for 'cream' soups and sauces. Whoops - tofu is one of my hobby horses! Better stop now! Best, Pat > I didn't make myself clear. I could easily eat 1,000 > calories of bread or tabouli (and yes, I do make it > the way you do, too) and yet I would never be as > satisfied as if I had a 300-400 calorie burrito. For > me, it's the beans (the protein here in this case) > that makes the difference. I've noticed this over and > over again with different foods...when I add more > protein in the form of beans or tofu I get satisfied > sooner and longer had I not. So I don't think it's a > calories issue at all but rather a nutrient balance > issue. > > I do agree with the heat issue...hot meals are more > satisfying especially when it's cold out. There is > some belief that the warm helps give us more energy > and the heat of meals helps our body digest (by not > stealing more heat to do so). > > I am not attracted to the philosophy of the Atkins > diet at all...especially the lack of regard for eating > animals and the almost zealousness over protein...but > I can admit he is right about this item. I am kind of > grateful because now when I eat more protein...I no > longer overeat and eat less food in general. -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 > Message: 2 > Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:38:08 -0000 > " bluetulipz " <bluetulipz > I HATE Atkins > > Ppl actually believe it > is somehow healthy > to up your intake of foods loaded with saturated fat > and cholesterol > and practically banish eating whole grains, fruits, > and vegetables. > What's wild to me, is it just seems to make common > sense that such > diets would be unhealthy... > > Luving my carbs, > karen I agree. I don't see how others can see this as healthy. If anything, over time it must be uglifying ane there are negative effects. I think it's strange how they make no distinction between carbs. They are all bad...white wheat and brown rice...which we all know is false. However, it's not true that Atkins says no to vegetables...he says yes to them. I, too, am turned off by the gorging on meat Atkins promotes. Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Pat, I would love a "beginner's course" on using tofu and tempeh. I can't tell you how many times I've bought both to cook with at home, then end up throwing them out months later -- unopened. While I'll buy prepared tofu at the deli at Wild Oats, I just never have found myself thinking of it as easy or mindless enough to prepare myself. Too easy to fall back on the "old standbys." Paula J. - I love using tofu and tempeh - readycooked and sitting in the fridge ready to be added to soups, stir fries,stews and fried rice or noodles as well as the softer variety being ahandy ingredient for 'cream' soups and sauces.Whoops - tofu is one of my hobby horses! Better stop now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 Re Atkins: > I, too, am turned off by the gorging on meat Atkins > promotes. So am I. That's what makes discussion of the Atkins diet so difficult for vegetarians, right? - I mean because most of us don't want to have to discuss eating meat. On we are here to discuss Vegetarian Health and Slimming and Atkins seems to do only the last part of that, the slimming part, and even that not in a healthy or vegetarian way. I say leave Atkins and the Atkins diet to those among the non-vegetarians who believe in him and his gospel according to Atkins. I can find reasons *not* connected to a quack diet to discuss nutrients in my food - including the protein hype ;=) Me, I'm currently concerned with getting enough calcium (among other things) . . . Best, Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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