Vegan Weirdos (was AGM, The meaning of life and Socials.)

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, " Angie Wright " <angiewright@n...> wrote:

> He asked me " Why are AR vegans weird ? Can anyone answer ?

> I couldn't

>

> Angie

 

Well, this is just my take on it, but part of it is probably about

feeling so different to the rest of society that is willing to abuse

anything for profit or other gain. Its a kind of rebellion thing and

the " weird look " is an expression of that - wanting to look different

on the outside to show that you think differently on the inside.

 

Sometimes I've felt that I look a bit " too normal " to take part in

some of the AR or environmental events - but I've mostly found that

the " weirdos " (your sons words, not mine!) are willing to not let

that get in the way, which is how it should be - so maybe your son

should try and look past the external - of course he may still find

they're still strange people! But I've recently met someone through

AR who looks like a hard-core punk - bleached spikey hair, facial

piercings, big boots etc. But when I spoke to them, they were as

polite as anything.

 

What I have found though is that there are a lot of vegans around who

seem to have problems with communicating with people - being able to

take part in conversations without appearing rude when

applying " accepted " etiquette of human interation - and I'm not

talking about ranting on about animal rights - I'm talking about

normal conversation or when they're at lecture talks etc and

addressing the speaker. Its as if they are not aware of how others

perceive them, and it comes across as arrogance although I'm sure

they don't intend it that way - they are honestly unaware of how they

appear.

 

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Rob

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Yes I agree with you . I have never found talking to anyone a problem .Looks are irrelevant to me,but then I am not looking for a potential life companion. My son is of such an age.

 

I have to look normal for my job and I like to show others that vegans are normal people .

I had never thought of it from the point you mentioned Rob( wanting to look different because the inside thoughts were different ) Its a good point

 

It is a pity that some have problems communicating adequately . There are always such people in society but we seem to have a larger %age

 

 

spacevegan [rob] 31 October 2002 16:19 Subject: Vegan Weirdos (was Re: AGM, The meaning of life and Socials.), "Angie Wright" <angiewright@n...> wrote:> He asked me "Why are AR vegans weird ? Can anyone answer ?> I couldn't > > AngieWell, this is just my take on it, but part of it is probably about feeling so different to the rest of society that is willing to abuse anything for profit or other gain. Its a kind of rebellion thing and the "weird look" is an expression of that - wanting to look different on the outside to show that you think differently on the inside.Sometimes I've felt that I look a bit "too normal" to take part in some of the AR or environmental events - but I've mostly found that the "weirdos" (your sons words, not mine!) are willing to not let that get in the way, which is how it should be - so maybe your son should try and look past the external - of course he may still find they're still strange people! But I've recently met someone through AR who looks like a hard-core punk - bleached spikey hair, facial piercings, big boots etc. But when I spoke to them, they were as polite as anything. What I have found though is that there are a lot of vegans around who seem to have problems with communicating with people - being able to take part in conversations without appearing rude when applying "accepted" etiquette of human interation - and I'm not talking about ranting on about animal rights - I'm talking about normal conversation or when they're at lecture talks etc and addressing the speaker. Its as if they are not aware of how others perceive them, and it comes across as arrogance although I'm sure they don't intend it that way - they are honestly unaware of how they appear. --Rob~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -

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spacevegan wrote:

>

> What I have found though is that there are a lot of vegans around who

> seem to have problems with communicating with people

 

That's rather true. I suspect it comes from removing the people who have

a strong need to fit in from the social pool.

 

> - being able to

> take part in conversations without appearing rude when

> applying " accepted " etiquette of human interation - and I'm not

> talking about ranting on about animal rights - I'm talking about

> normal conversation or when they're at lecture talks etc and

> addressing the speaker. Its as if they are not aware of how others

> perceive them, and it comes across as arrogance although I'm sure

> they don't intend it that way - they are honestly unaware of how they

> appear.

>

> --

> Rob

 

I'm fully aware that some people who have heard me address the speaker,

at, say, an LV talk think I'm arrogant. I don't think Rob is one of

them, but I could be wrong.

 

I just think they're wrong .

 

(I'm thinking in particular of talks that touch on my specialist area -

Biochemsitry - by speakers whose presentation flies in the face of

decades of solid evidence.)