Why is this group so quiet the last few months?

[Guest guest]

Is it all going on on VegansUncensored?

The VegansUK MSN group is busy, so what happened to everyone here?

 

Lesley

[Guest guest]

Vegans uncensored is quiet too

 

What is the vegansUK MSN group like and how would I find it ?

 

 

 

Why is this group so quiet the last few months?

 

 

Is it all going on on VegansUncensored?

The VegansUK MSN group is busy, so what happened to everyone here?

 

Lesley

 

 

 

 

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It's OK and some of us are meeting up in a couple of weeks in London.

It's at http://groups.msn.com/VegansUK/

 

You seem to be listed on it already though, but according to your profile it

has your email wrong angieright so maybe you are not getting

the email from them because the w is missed out of your name, so maybe you

did a typing error when you joined up.

 

Lesley

 

 

 

Angie Wright [angiewright]

11 March 2003 22:30

 

RE: Why is this group so quiet the last few months?

 

 

Vegans uncensored is quiet too

 

What is the vegansUK MSN group like and how would I find it ?

 

Angie

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On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:02:17 -0000, " Lesley Dove "

<Lesley wrote:

 

>The VegansUK MSN group is busy, so what happened to everyone here?

 

Whenever I write something, it's rare that anyone replies. When that

happens, it kind of makes you stop posting after a while! Can you give

me the URL or whatever for the VegansUK MSN group please?

 

Chris W

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Thanks Lesley

 

 

 

 

You seem to be listed on it already though, but according to your

profile it has your email wrong

Lesley

 

 

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You'll have to say something really dramatic ,to upset someone

 

 

 

Whenever I write something, it's rare that anyone replies. When that

happens, it kind of makes you stop posting after a while!

Chris W

 

 

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:32:15 -0000, " Angie Wright "

<angiewright wrote:

 

>You'll have to say something really dramatic ,to upset someone

 

I think it's a pity if that's what it takes to get responses. I didn't

join the list because I was looking for a fight, but to make contact,

and compare notes, with fellow vegans. If I wanted a fight, I'd

re- to uk.politics.animals. If this list isn't intended to be

what I thought it was, can someone point me at somewhere (other than the

MSN list which I'll check out) that is?

 

Chris W

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Depends what sort of thing you desire. There's always Veggieboards,

which is not strictly vegan. If you want to be more specific about the

sort of list that you'd like, i'll try to suggest some.

 

Cheers,

k@

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> On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:32:15 -0000, " Angie Wright "

> <angiewright wrote:

>

> >You'll have to say something really dramatic ,to upset someone

>

> I think it's a pity if that's what it takes to get responses. I didn't

> join the list because I was looking for a fight, but to make contact,

> and compare notes, with fellow vegans. If I wanted a fight, I'd

> re- to uk.politics.animals. If this list isn't intended to be

> what I thought it was, can someone point me at somewhere (other than

> the

> MSN list which I'll check out) that is?

>

> Chris W

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Well although I did put the cat among the pigeons on the other list a bit at one time, I am not always arguing, and I am quite friendly and like meeting other veggies and vegans locally, because I really do want a circle of like-minded friends in my area, so if you are anywhere near Harrow, I am always there at the Sakonis on a Friday lunchtime in term-time at noon. Don't get the chance to meet up much at evenings or weekends though because of family commitments (three kids under 10). I only have my youngest with me in the week, so that's the best time for me to meet up with people.

 

Are you quite a new vegan or an oldie like me and Angie?

You are right, this group is for vegans to be friendly and supportive, that was why Michael split it into two groups, so don't be afraid to discuss anything about veganism that is on your mind.

We won't bite! I think Angie was meaning the way things used to get when it was only one list, but all that is on the Vegansuncensored list now.

 

But yes do check that other group, it is very active these days, and meet-ups are happening in London soon.

We do argue or rather debate sometimes but somehow it's not as bad as it used to be on the Vegansuncensored list, and there is also a lot of support on there. Just take part in the bits that interest you!

 

There are other veggie/vegan groups which are very polite and friendly, such as Veggiebrits, not all vegans on there but quite a few are vegan.

 

Lesley

 

 

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:02:54 +0000, Kat <kittyveg wrote:

 

>Depends what sort of thing you desire. There's always Veggieboards,

>which is not strictly vegan. If you want to be more specific about the

>sort of list that you'd like, i'll try to suggest some.

 

I'm thinking of UK-based vegan forums or lists, as I want to get to know

more vegans.

 

I've considered becoming a Vegan Society regional contact for this area

(Worcs/Gloucs/Herefs), where I don't think they have anybody, but have

been put off by the need to attend training courses and the expectation

that local contacts will deal with the media. As I wouldn't be paid for

being a contact, I don't really want such formality or to have to spend

time dealing with the media. I'd just want to be a local source of

information and, therefore, would just expect to be dealing with

questions from local people to a certain extent and, therefore, don't

really see what benefit training would have. I'd prefer it to be a more

informal thing where the local contacts refer stuff they can't deal with

(such as media requests) up to the Contacts Co-ordinator (or whatever

he/she is called).

 

Are there any Vegan Society local contacts on this list?

 

Chris W

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:12:20 -0000, " Lesley Dove "

<Lesley wrote:

 

>Are you quite a new vegan or an oldie like me and Angie?

 

Depends what you regard as being new or old?! I'll have been vegan for 7

years in September, and my wife has been vegan for about a year longer

than that. I was vegetarian for about 8 or 9 years before that.

 

>You are right, this group is for vegans to be friendly and supportive, that

>was why Michael split it into two groups, so don't be afraid to discuss

>anything about veganism that is on your mind. We won't bite!

 

OK. It just seems so quiet and inactive here that it seems like no-one

has anything that they want to discuss, so it makes me a little

reluctant to start any topics for fear of " we've done that subject to

death already a year ago " type responses.

 

>But yes do check that other group, it is very active these days, and

>meet-ups are happening in London soon.

 

As I'm in Worcs, meet-ups in London are too far away, unfortunately.

 

>We do argue or rather debate sometimes but somehow it's not as bad as it

>used to be on the Vegansuncensored list

 

Differences of opinion are inevitable sometimes on any list, and you

don't have to look very hard on the Internet if you fancy having an

argument with someone! I just want to find somewhere vegan-related where

the emphasis is more on discussing what the list/forum members have in

common rather than what they haven't, and somewhere where there's a lot

of exchange of vegan-related information, ideas etc.

 

>There are other veggie/vegan groups which are very polite and

>friendly, such as Veggiebrits, not all vegans on there but quite a few are

>vegan.

 

I might check that out, thanks.

 

Chris W

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Oi Lesley !!! Are you looking for a fight

 

Actually Vegans Uncensored has gone quiet ---most boring

 

 

Lesley Dove [Lesley] 12 March 2003 10:12 Subject: RE: Why is this group so quiet the last few months?

 

 

Are you quite a new vegan or an oldie like me and Angie?

You are right, this group is for vegans to be friendly and supportive, that was why Michael split it into two groups, so don't be afraid to discuss anything about veganism that is on your mind.

We won't bite! I think Angie was meaning the way things used to get when it was only one list, but all that is on the Vegansuncensored list now.

 

Lesley

 

 

 

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I'm the local contact for Nottingham I haven't beem on any training

courses ---not in my area --but I would like to ,in order to meet more

vegans.

I haven't been asked to speak to the media either .

In fact I've done nothing !!!!

No one has phoned or Emailed me and since it is Vegan Soc policy not to

give out members info (understandably ) I can't contact them !!!

 

Try it Its not onerous If it becomes so you can always opt out again

 

Go for it !!!!

 

 

 

 

I've considered becoming a Vegan Society regional contact for this area

(Worcs/Gloucs/Herefs),

 

Are there any Vegan Society local contacts on this list?

 

Chris W

 

 

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> If this list isn't intended to be

> what I thought it was, can someone point me at somewhere (other than

> the

> MSN list which I'll check out) that is?

 

No, this list IS what you thought it to be. If people don't respond to

you then maybe you didn't say anything worth responding too. Maybe

every thought what you said was put so well they had nothing more to

add.

 

If there is anything anyone wants to discuss, ask, talk about then say

something. Otherwise everyone just sits back waiting for someone else

to start and complaining at the silence.

 

Michael

[Guest guest]

> OK. It just seems so quiet and inactive here that it seems like no-one

> has anything that they want to discuss, so it makes me a little

> reluctant to start any topics for fear of " we've done that subject to

> death already a year ago " type responses.

 

If that happens leave it to me to sort it out. You can bring up any

subject you want. People join and leave the list all the time so

subjects are bound to cycle and people seem more than happy to discuss

the same things ad infinitum anyway.

 

Michael

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Hi Chris,

I've just come on line and noticed you're in Worcs and looking to meet vegans. I know an active vegan or two there, shall I pass your e-mail address along? Chris W <chrisw wrote:

I've considered becoming a Vegan Society regional contact for this area(Worcs/Gloucs/Herefs),

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Hello everyone,

i had to to the group for a little while because i had some

problems but i think they're fixed. I'm still getting emails in the

wrong order, ie some are delayed in getting here, so i apologise in advance

if i reply to something then see its already been replyed to by someone

else. is this normal when receiving individual emails? I normally have

digests but decided to go for individuals this time or i never get round to

replying.

Anyway, i have a couple of questions for you, being new to veganism...

 

1) Where do you guys shop? I have a tiny, independent and not very good

health shop in my area, and a bigger one (beanfreaks) which stocks lots more

in town (but i can't get there very often at the moment). I do my main shop

for veg etc at ASDA but sainsbury's have an aisle of health foods and their

free from range which has no dairy in it, although its expensive. So i am

spending far too much time shopping at the moment, going to ASDA, Sainsburys

and trying to get to town (which i haven't managed yet). there must be an

easier way! - or am i just asking for too much

 

2) I've bought some vegan cookbooks but alot of the recies call for unusual

ingredients that i haven't been able to get yet. I'm already getting bored

with what i'm eating. Does anyone have any suggestions or tips about

cooking? I'm not asking for recipes, but rather suggestions of the types of

thing i could try.

 

Sorry guys, i'm sure you've had these questions before and they may seem a

little dumb but i'm starting to struggle a bit.

 

Also, i made some cookies yesterday and they were awful. They had this

bitter aftertaste and when my boyfriend tried them he described them as

" pure evil! " . Lol

I had the same taste when i tried to make a microwave vegan sponge pudding.

What am i doing wrong!!!

 

Laura

 

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> 1) Where do you guys shop? I have a tiny, independent and

> not very good health shop in my area, and a bigger one (beanfreaks) which

> stocks lots more in town (but i can't get there very often at the moment).

I

> do my main shop for veg etc at ASDA but sainsbury's have an aisle of

health

> foods and their free from range which has no dairy in it, although its

> expensive. So i am spending far too much time shopping at the moment,

going to

> ASDA, Sainsburys and trying to get to town (which i haven't managed yet).

> there must be an easier way! - or am i just asking for too much

 

Tell us where in the country you are, and maybe someone local will have

suggestions :-) Have you got the Vegan Society's Cruelty/Animal Free Shopper

guide ? It's amazing some of the things that are okay. Also, if you can

track down a Co-Op in your area they label their own-brand stuff when it's

vegan friendly. There's also www.veganstore.co.uk for all sorts of weird

stuff, and www.redwoodfoods.co.uk for vegan non-cheese / non-meat products.

 

Personally, most of the weekly shop (for 2 people) arrives in the form of

the weekly organic veg. box. Not the best time of year to join a scheme, as

we're entering the hungry gap and the choice of veg can get a little

limited. It does make it interesting when you have to invent the weeks food

based on a random selection of veg though... This does assume that you can

eat/enjoy eating whatever veg come your way.

 

> 2) I've bought some vegan cookbooks but alot of the recies

> call for unusual ingredients that i haven't been able to get yet.

 

Name the ingredients, and we may be able to offer suggestions as to where

you'd find them, or replacements, or other names for things (e.g. Garbanzos

= Chick Peas).

 

> I'm already getting bored with what i'm eating. Does anyone have any

> suggestions or tips about cooking? I'm not asking for recipes, but rather

> suggestions of the types of thing i could try.

 

Pasta, rice, potatoes, pies, stews, casseroles, steamed veg, stir-fries...

Apart from non-cheese things and various vegan sausages most of what I cook

/ we eat is based on veggies. I'd suspect that using TVP-style meaty recipes

would get very boring very quickly. Let us know what you're eating, and we

can try and suggest variations on the themes to liven it up.

 

There are lots of international veggie cook books - if you like cooking and

like food from all around the world, Madhur Jaffery's " World Vegetarian "

gives lots of recipes, but not much by way of inspirational pictures. The

World Food Cafe cookbook has lots of pictures to tempt you into trying

things. The entire Chronicle Books " Vegetarian Table " series make my mouth

water. However, these are all *veggie* not vegan cookbooks, so some playing

with ingredients is required.

 

One of my favourite cookbooks isn't veggie at all, it's " The Modern Cook's

Manual " by Lynda Brown. The good thing is it has nice sections on rice /

pasta / potatoes /pulses etc with a good introduction to each and

suggestions on ways to cook them. I know it's fairly normal cookbook stuff,

but the way it's done works wonderfully for me.

 

Sadly, I only have one inspirational vegan cookbook (The New Vegan Cookbook)

and the other vegan cookbooks I have are pretty much bland and functional.

However, looking on Amazon, there seem to be quite a few more out there than

last time I looked (several years ago probably). The Linda Majzlik " Vegan

Taste Of... " series look especially (a) interesting and (b) cheap.

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books-uk & field-a

uthor=Majzlik%2C%20Linda/202-7862738-4796635

 

Most recent culinary inspiration was a restaurant in Aberdeen. Aberdeen is

pretty bad for veggies, so for vegans it's a bit of a hunt to find food.

However, there is a wonderful afro-caribbean restaurant called " Soul &

Spice " (http://soulnspice.freeservers.com/). Half their menu is veggie, and

most of the veggie dishes can be vegan (pretty much all of them from what I

remember). We had veggie stew and spinach & pumpkin seed curry with fufu

(made of cassava flour, and like firm mashed potato, you tear lumps off to

dunk in the curry / stew :-) ). Living near Brixton, a quick trip to the

Index bookstore produced various cookbooks and some more recipes to butcher.

 

> Also, i made some cookies yesterday and they were awful.

> They had this bitter aftertaste and when my boyfriend tried them he

> described them as " pure evil! " . Lol

> I had the same taste when i tried to make a microwave vegan sponge

pudding.

> What am i doing wrong!!!

 

Tell us the recipe you're using and we'll try to help!

 

Steve

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Hi Laura!

 

I can't add very much to what SteveW said but here goes...

 

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> 2) I've bought some vegan cookbooks but alot of the recies call for

unusual

> ingredients that i haven't been able to get yet.

 

I have several recipe books that I really like but I mostly use them

for sweet things... For main dishes, I have one " universal " recipe

which I have found to HUGELY adaptable - if you like, I'll email it

to you personally (because it is quite long once I explain all the

variations....). It is based on a Kenyan kidney bean stew recipe

which is very simple and tasty.

 

> Also, i made some cookies yesterday and they were awful. They had

this

> bitter aftertaste and when my boyfriend tried them he described

them as

> " pure evil! " . Lol

> I had the same taste when i tried to make a microwave vegan sponge

pudding.

> What am i doing wrong!!!

 

My first guess is that your recipes have soya flour in them. I've

found that some recipes with soya flour have a really nasty soapy-

metallic flavour. Yet other similar recipes work a treat - anyone

know why?

 

The microwave sponge pudding I once made was so awful that I had to

throw it out!! (And I have a sweet tooth - always room in my pudding

tummy for a second slice...) Permission to guess which book you are

using? I *think* I know.

 

Take care

 

Siofra

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>I can't add very much to what SteveW said but here goes...

 

thank you for your reply. The fact that you bothered to respond has already

made me feel like i've got some help

 

>I have several recipe books that I really like but I mostly use them

>for sweet things... For main dishes, I have one " universal " recipe

>which I have found to HUGELY adaptable - if you like, I'll email it

>to you personally (because it is quite long once I explain all the

>variations....). It is based on a Kenyan kidney bean stew recipe

>which is very simple and tasty.

 

Sounds delicious and i would really appreciate the recipe.

However, i guess it must take a long time to type so only do it if you have

time

Which recipe books do you use for baking?

 

>My first guess is that your recipes have soya flour in them.

 

Nope. Neither recipe had soya flour. I [posted the ingredients to the

cookies in my last email.

 

>The microwave sponge pudding I once made was so awful that I had to

>throw it out!! (And I have a sweet tooth - always room in my pudding

>tummy for a second slice...) Permission to guess which book you are

>using? I *think* I know.

 

Sounds much the same as my pudding. I tried it again but made it vanilla

instead of choc incase it was the cocoa powder. Had to throw it out again.

then had to throw out my cookies (*gives disheartened sigh*)

As for guessing the cookbook, be my guest!

 

Thank you for your reply

 

Laura

 

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Hi Laura,

I'm newish so I haven't talked much about food yet either. I love scrambled tofu with turmeric to make it look eggy with any veg like mushies, broccoli, mixed herbs with toast and a dollop of ketchup. Pancakes with maple syrup are great and I simply replace the eggs with a tablespoon of oil. Warm salads are yum: I stir fry tofu with sunflower seeds, soya sauce and pour that over a tossed salad. Cheesy pasta always a winner... I get veggies via organic box scheme and 'staples' at local shops to avoid putting more pennies into Tesco, Asda, etc. etc.

Laura Moore <child_of_the_80s wrote:

Hello everyone,i had to to the group for a little while because i had some problems but i think they're fixed. I'm still getting emails in the wrong order, ie some are delayed in getting here, so i apologise in advance if i reply to something then see its already been replyed to by someone else. is this normal when receiving individual emails? I normally have digests but decided to go for individuals this time or i never get round to replying. :)Anyway, i have a couple of questions for you, being new to veganism...1) Where do you guys shop? I have a tiny, independent and not very good health shop in my area, and a bigger one (beanfreaks) which stocks lots more in town (but i can't get there very often at the moment). I do my main shop for veg etc at ASDA but sainsbury's have an aisle of health foods and their free from range which has no dairy in it, although its expensive. So i am spending far too much time shopping at the moment, going to ASDA, Sainsburys and trying to get to town (which i haven't managed yet). there must be an easier way! - or am i just asking for too much ;)2) I've bought some vegan cookbooks but alot of the recies call for unusual ingredients that i haven't been able to get yet. I'm already getting bored with what i'm eating. Does anyone have any suggestions or tips about cooking? I'm not asking for recipes, but rather suggestions of the types of thing i could try.Sorry guys, i'm sure you've had these questions before and they may seem a little dumb but i'm starting to struggle a bit.Also, i made some cookies yesterday and they were awful. They had this bitter aftertaste and when my boyfriend tried them he described them as "pure evil!". LolI had the same taste when i tried to make a microwave vegan sponge pudding. What am i doing wrong!!!Laura_______________Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -

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>Saoirse Soya <saoirse_soya

>Hi Laura,

>I'm newish so I haven't talked much about food yet either.

 

Nice to meet you. How are you finding your first few... days/weeks/months

of veganism? I'm finding it ok so far but haven't eaten out yet, or been

able to get to a health food store, or gone to a friends for food. Bit

scared about people's reactions. Told my mum yesterday over the phone (we

live far away) and she didn't seem to care. But that won't be the end to

it. I know my mum, she'll bring it up at a really inopportune (is that a

word) moment, like when i'm telling her i feel ill!

Got my first verbal lashing for being vegan yesterday, although it was

indirect. My boyfriends mum told me that her husband was quite wound up

over me being vegan. Apparently he was all riled up saying he'd never heard

anything ridiculous in all his life etc etc.

Not sure how to deal with it when i speak to him. I won't mention it if he

doesn't. The difficulty is that it is my boyfriends sisters wedding in May

and so i asked his mum, if at the menu tasting she could ask if they do a

vegan option... and thats what sparked the outburst.

She did offer to ask for me, all i did was email back saying that would be

great and explaining in brief what i didn't eat.

Apparently he said to her cows needed to be milked... so i can shoot that

one down

Have you, or anyone else, received any aggression as a result of your

lifestyle?

 

>I get veggies via organic box scheme and 'staples' at local shops to >avoid

>putting more pennies into Tesco, Asda, etc. etc.

 

I agree this is important. At the moment i'm kind of limited for a few

reasons:

1) we're renting at the moment but about to buy and move somewhere else so i

don't want to get too settled where we are. I'm not sure if there are box

schemes in the area but am planning on looking into it, especially in our

new house.

2) The local shops here that sell fruit and veg are pretty ropey! When we

first moved here every saturday i went down to the village to buy fruit, veg

etc but they used to go off so quickly, i mean a couple of days and they

were always bruised. I complained but nothing changed so i gave up. Also

our local shops are also chains, although not as big as ASDA like SPAR and

one stop shop, they don't stock much apart from biscuits, milk and alcohol.

3) money. I'm really really broke. Although i'm earning i have debts which

do affect where i shop. ASDA is so cheap that for the moment it makes

sense, but i'm hoping it won't be long before i'm in my new house, with some

decent local shops, a box scheme and a garden!!!

(nothing to do with food but i have been dreaming about a garden!)

I'm paying more renting than a mortgage would cost so i'll be able to afford

to support more worthwhile companies.

 

As an aside, although i know i've gone on long enough, when i was a student

in Coventry i lived in a really multicultural area. I could walk to my

local shops and they would sell all kinds of amazing ingredients! There was

a fruit and veg shop which sold " normal " things and stuff like mooli,

plantain, they always had loads of mango and lime etc. I'd never get this

type of stuff locally here.

When i move i'll be moving into Wales a bit more so the only bad thing is

gonna be getting more interesting ingredients, so for that i'll probably

still use supermarkets

 

 

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You will get it a lot at the beginning .

 

You have to show them that they can't bully you He was extremely rude

saying it was " ridiculous " His behaviour /face /house/dress

sense/etc might be ridiculous, but you would have the manners not to

respond in such a pathetic way .He is obviously very unintelligent so

probably wouldn't listen to your explanations anyway

 

They can't cope with people who are giving them a " problem

" --especially when it comes to food . I used to tell people not to

bother feeding me (and I would take my own ). These days most caterers

can deal with it and are quite able to cope with all the varied types of

religious/allergy free diets

 

Are you fond of your boyfriend ?. Having a father like that has

probably lost him many girlfriends

 

Got my first verbal lashing for being vegan yesterday, although it was

indirect. My boyfriends mum told me that her husband was quite wound up

 

over me being vegan. Apparently he was all riled up saying he'd never

heard

anything ridiculous in all his life etc etc.

Not sure how to deal with it when i speak to him. I won't mention it if

he

doesn't. The difficulty is that it is my boyfriends sisters wedding in

May

and so i asked his mum, if at the menu tasting she could ask if they do

a

vegan option... and thats what sparked the outburst.

She did offer to ask for me, all i did was email back saying that would

be

great and explaining in brief what i didn't eat.

Apparently he said to her cows needed to be milked... so i can shoot

that

one down

Have you, or anyone else, received any aggression as a result of your

lifestyle?

 

 

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Was ( maybe still am) on vegansuk, but as i do not have a pc of my own i have to

rely on local library to use free e-mail / internet access. unfortunately they

are tightening up on their access/firewall, and now cannot access many internet

vegan sites. they must think we are all a bunch of anarchists or something, or

just extremists?!

> It's OK and some of us are meeting up in a couple of weeks in London.

>It's at <a Target='_new'

Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://groups.msn.com/VegansUK\

/'>http://groups.msn.com/VegansUK/</a>

>

>You seem to be listed on it already though, but according to your profile it

>has your email wrong angieright so maybe you are not getting

>the email from them because the w is missed out of your name, so maybe you

>did a typing error when you joined up.

>

>Lesley

>

>

>

>Angie Wright [angiewright]

>11 March 2003 22:30

>

>RE: Why is this group so quiet the last few months?

>

>

>Vegans uncensored is quiet too

>

>What is the vegansUK MSN group like and how would I find it ?

>

>Angie

>

>

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I am a local contact but unfortunately haven't so far attended any formal training. You don't have to have a local group to be a contact. The main thing is that local vegans and aspiring vegans know there is someone there locally for support, and I do arrange meet ups with a few other local vegetarians and vegans, although often it's only me and one other person I keep persevering and inviting people in the hope that more will become interested. I've never been asked to deal with the media although I might possibly be happy to do it.

I'd be really happy to have a local group where I live but it isn't happening due to lack of interest, I can't do it all on my own and need a few other almost equally committed vegans to get a group going. I'm very keen to build vegan circle of friends and support locally.

I'd say do become a contact as the Vegan Society needs more of them and if you are a contact then some other local vegans might get in touch with you.

 

Lesley

 

 

Chris W [chrisw]12 March 2003 10:31 Subject: Re: Why is this group so quiet the last few months?On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:02:54 +0000, Kat <kittyveg wrote:>Depends what sort of thing you desire. There's always Veggieboards, >which is not strictly vegan. If you want to be more specific about the >sort of list that you'd like, i'll try to suggest some.I'm thinking of UK-based vegan forums or lists, as I want to get to knowmore vegans. I've considered becoming a Vegan Society regional contact for this area(Worcs/Gloucs/Herefs), where I don't think they have anybody, but havebeen put off by the need to attend training courses and the expectationthat local contacts will deal with the media. As I wouldn't be paid forbeing a contact, I don't really want such formality or to have to spendtime dealing with the media. I'd just want to be a local source ofinformation and, therefore, would just expect to be dealing withquestions from local people to a certain extent and, therefore, don'treally see what benefit training would have. I'd prefer it to be a moreinformal thing where the local contacts refer stuff they can't deal with(such as media requests) up to the Contacts Co-ordinator (or whateverhe/she is called).Are there any Vegan Society local contacts on this list?Chris W~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -