Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Hi everyone, As a self confessed lurker but also a member I just wanted to add a few things to what Jak has said. I find some of the lists such as VU and BlueVegans to have a sizeable dietary member base so once in a while these "vegans" go on about honey, eggs and cheese as a sort of treat once in a while which I find bizarre because it's not vegan but that's dietary vegans for you. As an ethical or AR vegan I would entirely welcome, even as a way to redress the balance, to hear of AR topics on this list - as well as other topics. I think Jak has made a fair point. Best wishes, W x Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 >Hi everyone, > >As a self confessed lurker but also a member I just wanted to add a >few things to what Jak has said. > >I find some of the lists such as VU and BlueVegans to have a >sizeable dietary member base so once in a while these " vegans " go on >about honey, eggs and cheese as a sort of treat once in a while >which I find bizarre because it's not vegan but that's dietary >vegans for you. > >As an ethical or AR vegan I would entirely welcome, even as a way to >redress the balance, to hear of AR topics on this list - as well as >other topics. > >I think Jak has made a fair point. > Hi Wendy - I agree up to a point - I don't mind a little AR or animal welfare discussion on a vegan list, since there is considerable overlap with genuine (as opposed to dietary) veganism. The things that annoy me though, and which IMNVHO tend to spoil a list are: * indiscriminate cross-posting of AR stuff from AR lists onto vegan lists - people who want to know about AR demos, marches, etc, will already be hearing about them on the AR lists. None of us wants to read the same stuff over and over again on multiple lists - it starts to look a lot like spam. * preaching to the choir - there's a certain kind of AR type who feels the need to lecture and chide anyone and everyone about how they should be out on demos, marches, etc, even on vegan lists. This gets old fast. Just my 2p = 3c. Paul -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 > I find some of the lists such as VU and BlueVegans to have a sizeable > dietary member base so once in a while these " vegans " go on about > honey, eggs and cheese as a sort of treat once in a while which I find > bizarre because it's not vegan but that's dietary vegans for you. I have never seen any such thing on Vegans Uncensored or on here, and would not expect such a view to be well received either. Graham does admit to eating honey but he has very specific and reasoned arguments to back that up, and is hardly a dietary vegan. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 I know I said I wasn't going to post any more, but you've coxed me out as I can sense this might actually be resolved to everyone's benefit. > I'm not aware of the accepted unspoken rules in this group that are > known by those who've been members for a while. Let's be clear, there were never any unspoken rules. If you are not going to do what you originally stated (and which I quoted in my final reply on the subject) then talking about AR is fine. My protests (and I'm sure those of everyone else) were purely based on what you originally suggested you wanted to do. Nothing you have subsequently suggested you wanted to do has been a problem though so if you are retracting that original suggestion then I do not see there being any problem with AR discussion topics being raised. It is simply a difference between activism and discussion. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Personally, I do not see the harm in the odd AR message appearing on this site. After all, as long as it is in the subject title, it can always be deleted without being read. So where is the harm? The Valley Vegan.... > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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