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mavreela <ndisc wrote:

> No more Beef

>

> Just an FYI, but I noticed today that the Walkers Beef & Onion crisps

> in the new packaging now contain whey powder so are no longer vegan.

>

> On the other hand, according to the most recent AFS update the Roast

> Chicken flavour Walkers crisps are now vegan (old and new packaging).

>

> I hope that's of interest to some.

>

> Michael

 

Thanks for telling us that. It's definite interest to me as I eat a ton of

crisps a day - and funnily enough I just posted to one of the other vegan

groups asking about other flavours. I wish someone would make more vegan

flavours as I get really bored with eating ready salted all the time. I

think we should all write to Walkers and request they get rid of the whey

powder and do more flavours that us vegans can eat.

 

<3

Shari Black Velvet

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Hi,

 

Sainsburys do 'free from' six-pack bag of cheese and onion, prawn and

cocktail, and salt and vinegar crisps. I'm fairly sure it is vegan.

 

And Tescos' thick barbeque crisps are allegedly vegan, though I haven't

brought any for a while.

 

Cheers,

 

John

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" Shari " <shari

 

Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:13 PM

No more Beef

 

 

> mavreela <ndisc wrote:

> > No more Beef

> >

> > Just an FYI, but I noticed today that the Walkers Beef & Onion crisps

> > in the new packaging now contain whey powder so are no longer vegan.

> >

> > On the other hand, according to the most recent AFS update the Roast

> > Chicken flavour Walkers crisps are now vegan (old and new packaging).

> >

> > I hope that's of interest to some.

> >

> > Michael

>

> Thanks for telling us that. It's definite interest to me as I eat a ton of

> crisps a day - and funnily enough I just posted to one of the other vegan

> groups asking about other flavours. I wish someone would make more vegan

> flavours as I get really bored with eating ready salted all the time. I

> think we should all write to Walkers and request they get rid of the whey

> powder and do more flavours that us vegans can eat.

>

> <3

> Shari Black Velvet

>

>

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mavreela <ndisc wrote:

 

> Just an FYI, but I noticed today that the Walkers Beef & Onion crisps

> in the new packaging now contain whey powder so are no longer vegan.

 

Oops... didn't realise you were on here too!

 

I'm on digest so I also didn't know you'd sent it to the list as well as

sending it the UK list! Hope you didn' t mind me cutting and pasting it here

but I didn't know you were on here!

 

I can't keep up with everyone/thing! lol

 

<3

Shari Black Velvet

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  • 2 weeks later...

there's a lot more crisps out there with whey in them ... all the

Sensations crisps ..

 

but the amount of Monosodium Glutamate in crisps altogether should

put people off eating them ... it's the seasoning ... it's the

flavouring of beef and prawns and even salt and vinegar?... they

seem to spoon it into everything...

 

 

, mavreela <ndisc@m...> wrote:

> Just an FYI, but I noticed today that the Walkers Beef & Onion

crisps

> in the new packaging now contain whey powder so are no longer vegan.

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The Free From range is not necessarily vegan ... it is free from

whatever it claims to be free from on the packet...

 

free from wheat ... free from wheat dairy eggs ... free from ... etc..

 

i can't imagine Cheese and Onion flavour being free from Cheese

powder or milk proteins... ??

 

 

 

, " John Davis " <mcxg46@d...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Sainsburys do 'free from' six-pack bag of cheese and onion, prawn

and

> cocktail, and salt and vinegar crisps. I'm fairly sure it is vegan.

>

> And Tescos' thick barbeque crisps are allegedly vegan, though I

haven't

> brought any for a while.

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Hi,

 

Surely 'free from dairy' means free from eggs, cheese and whey?

 

Says he hopefully...

 

John

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" zorgster " <oliver

 

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:57 PM

Re: No more Beef

 

 

> The Free From range is not necessarily vegan ... it is free from

> whatever it claims to be free from on the packet...

>

> free from wheat ... free from wheat dairy eggs ... free from ... etc..

>

> i can't imagine Cheese and Onion flavour being free from Cheese

> powder or milk proteins... ??

>

>

>

> , " John Davis " <mcxg46@d...> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > Sainsburys do 'free from' six-pack bag of cheese and onion, prawn

> and

> > cocktail, and salt and vinegar crisps. I'm fairly sure it is vegan.

> >

> > And Tescos' thick barbeque crisps are allegedly vegan, though I

> haven't

> > brought any for a while.

>

>

>

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yup ... but the Free From range as a whole is not Free From Dairy ...

only Free From certain things which are named on the packaging...

 

 

, " John Davis " <mcxg46@d...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Surely 'free from dairy' means free from eggs, cheese and whey?

>

> Says he hopefully...

>

> John

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Besides which free from dairy does not and never has meant free from eggs, free from diary means just that and eggs are not a dairy product

 

Lesley

 

 

zorgster [oliver]29 January 2004 11:33 Subject: Re: No more Beefyup ... but the Free From range as a whole is not Free From Dairy ... only Free From certain things which are named on the packaging... , "John Davis" <mcxg46@d...> wrote:> Hi,> > Surely 'free from dairy' means free from eggs, cheese and whey?> > Says he hopefully...> > John~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to -

 

 

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Very true - and Sainsburys are getting better at labelling

things " suitable for vegetarians and vegans " in addition to the

label " suitable for vegetarians " .

 

I think it was zorgster who once mentioned Sainburys has a policy of

adding the " and vegans " bit when they update packaging on vegans

products.

 

Seems to be the case and I think other supermarkets do this too -

asda, co-op, maybe tescos...

 

Siofra

 

, " zorgster " <oliver@l...> wrote:

> yup ... but the Free From range as a whole is not Free From

Dairy ...

> only Free From certain things which are named on the packaging...

>

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The Free From range is mainly allergy-focused, but I remember having

the cheese and onion crisps a couple years or so ago, and they were

vegan then. I wouldn't have thought they'd've changed it. But yeah,

you do have to watch out as Free From doesn't always mean vegan, they

might have eggs in, or just be free from gluten or something. But

well done Sainsbury's!

 

 

, " zorgster " <oliver@l...> wrote:

> The Free From range is not necessarily vegan ... it is free from

> whatever it claims to be free from on the packet...

>

> free from wheat ... free from wheat dairy eggs ... free from ...

etc..

>

> i can't imagine Cheese and Onion flavour being free from Cheese

> powder or milk proteins... ??

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Hi,

 

I've taken a look at the ingredients list of the free-from crisps, and they

don't list any animal products. Mind you, they do resort to the catch-all

'flavourings' ingredient, so who knows what that covers...

 

John

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" wee_siofra " <c.macneill

 

Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:26 PM

Re: No more Beef

 

 

>

> Very true - and Sainsburys are getting better at labelling

> things " suitable for vegetarians and vegans " in addition to the

> label " suitable for vegetarians " .

>

> I think it was zorgster who once mentioned Sainburys has a policy of

> adding the " and vegans " bit when they update packaging on vegans

> products.

>

> Seems to be the case and I think other supermarkets do this too -

> asda, co-op, maybe tescos...

>

> Siofra

>

> , " zorgster " <oliver@l...> wrote:

> > yup ... but the Free From range as a whole is not Free From

> Dairy ...

> > only Free From certain things which are named on the packaging...

> >

>

>

>

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Hi john,

 

, " John Davis " <mcxg46@d...> wrote:

> I've taken a look at the ingredients list of the free-from crisps,

and they

> don't list any animal products. Mind you, they do resort to the

catch-all

> 'flavourings' ingredient, so who knows what that covers...

 

And sometimes, it is in the manufacturing process. If I remember

correctly, some Linda McCartney things seem 100% vegan from the

ingredients but were put through some process that included animal by-

products. As these by-products weren't in the final sausage (or

whatever), they didn't need to be listed on the box...

 

I *think* someone on this list found that out but I can't be certain

about my source...

 

I've stopped recomending Linda McCartney stuff as something people I

visit can get in for me to eat... I've just gone off the stuff

completely.

 

Siofra

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Hi,

 

I'm in two minds about products that are put through a process using animal

products. Most sugar springs to mind...Granted, ideally I wouldn't eat that

kind of product, but taken one step further, most veg is grown using

fertiliser with animal products in. One step further, and all soil has dead

animal matter in it...

 

Increasingly, I'm of the opinion that veganism is an ideal, not a state you

can ever actually achieve. So whilst I'll avoid products whose process uses

animal products if I can, I've stopped feeling that guilty if I eat some by

accident or out of ignorance.

 

John

 

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" wee_siofra " <c.macneill

 

Friday, January 30, 2004 2:23 PM

Re: No more Beef

 

 

>

> Hi john,

>

> , " John Davis " <mcxg46@d...> wrote:

> > I've taken a look at the ingredients list of the free-from crisps,

> and they

> > don't list any animal products. Mind you, they do resort to the

> catch-all

> > 'flavourings' ingredient, so who knows what that covers...

>

> And sometimes, it is in the manufacturing process. If I remember

> correctly, some Linda McCartney things seem 100% vegan from the

> ingredients but were put through some process that included animal by-

> products. As these by-products weren't in the final sausage (or

> whatever), they didn't need to be listed on the box...

>

> I *think* someone on this list found that out but I can't be certain

> about my source...

>

> I've stopped recomending Linda McCartney stuff as something people I

> visit can get in for me to eat... I've just gone off the stuff

> completely.

>

> Siofra

>

>

>

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wee_siofra wrote:

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> I *think* someone on this list found that out but I can't be certain

> about my source...

>

 

The Linda McCartney customer service line told me as much. It's a

binding agent, apparently.

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Hi John,

 

, " John Davis " <mcxg46@d...> wrote:

 

> Increasingly, I'm of the opinion that veganism is an ideal, not a

state you

> can ever actually achieve. So whilst I'll avoid products whose

process uses

> animal products if I can, I've stopped feeling that guilty if I eat

some by

> accident or out of ignorance.

 

I think along similar lines myself - if it was an accident or a

mistake, rather than feeling guilty, I try to learn from it.

 

To be truely 100% vegan, would we have to sleep with nets over our

mouths to stop house spiders getting themselves swallowed? ;-)

 

The other reason I stopped getting the Linda McC sausages is because

they aren't even that nice so I don't miss them.

 

As for sugar, that question was asked about a year ago, I think, and

someone found out that sugar in the UK was vegan. Once again, I

can't remember who or when exactly. BTW, thanks to Ian for confirming

details about the Linda McC sausages!

 

Siofra

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