Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Hello everyone My baby girl (6 months old) has really sensitive skin and she has now reacted badly to ecover washing powder. It seems like she's reacting to something new every week. Has anybody had any experience of this and knows a nice mild, vegan, non-biological washing powder that I can try next? And a vegan eczema cream? ... or range of toiletries? TIA Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 >My baby girl (6 months old) has really sensitive skin and she has >now reacted badly to ecover washing powder. You could try not using any washing powder at all, if her things aren't very dirty. I'm sensitive to some washing powder and it works for me, though I guess it may well not for a six month old. >And a vegan eczema cream? ... or range of toiletries? Green people (www.greenpeople.co.uk) do a range of toiletries for children, and most are vegan. They were set up by someone whose child had eczema, so you could try them. _____________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 , " Elizabeth Beesley " <elizabeth_beesley@m...> wrote: > > > >My baby girl (6 months old) has really sensitive skin and she has >now reacted badly to ecover washing powder. > > You could try not using any washing powder at all, if her things aren't very dirty. I'm sensitive to some washing powder and it works for me, though I guess it may well not for a six month old. > > >And a vegan eczema cream? ... or range of toiletries? > > Green people (www.greenpeople.co.uk) do a range of toiletries for children, and most are vegan. They were set up by someone whose child had eczema, so you could try them. Thanks for that, I keep forgetting about green people! I thought about no washing powder but she's sooo messy! ) Ellie > > _____________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Hi, I don't know much about these other than a couple of my friends who have skin problems use them, but they put these plastic-ufo-type objects in their washing machine instead of powder. Hmm. Which probably isn't a particularly helpful description, but I could find out more when they get back from holiday later this week if you are interested. John - " Ellie Mayson " <ellie2002 Sunday, April 25, 2004 2:59 AM Washing powder problem - info needed > Hello everyone > > My baby girl (6 months old) has really sensitive skin and she has > now reacted badly to ecover washing powder. It seems like she's > reacting to something new every week. Has anybody had any > experience of this and knows a nice mild, vegan, non-biological > washing powder that I can try next? > > And a vegan eczema cream? ... or range of toiletries? > > TIA > > Ellie > > > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 That would be great if you could find out more John Thanks Ellie , " John Davis " <mcxg46@d...> wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know much about these other than a couple of my friends who have > skin problems use them, but they put these plastic-ufo-type objects in their > washing machine instead of powder. > > Hmm. Which probably isn't a particularly helpful description, but I could > find out more when they get back from holiday later this week if you are > interested. > > John > - > " Ellie Mayson " <ellie2002@b...> > > Sunday, April 25, 2004 2:59 AM > Washing powder problem - info needed > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Hi Ellie, On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 01:59:18 -0000, " Ellie Mayson " <ellie2002 wrote: >My baby girl (6 months old) has really sensitive skin and she has >now reacted badly to ecover washing powder. It seems like she's >reacting to something new every week. Has anybody had any >experience of this and knows a nice mild, vegan, non-biological >washing powder that I can try next? It might be worth trying the Earth Friendly product (not that I have any experience of it). Veganstore.co.uk is one place that sells it: http://www.veganstore.co.uk/household_index.html >And a vegan eczema cream? ... or range of toiletries? Veganstore.co.uk also have something for this too. See the Shi Kai Borage Therapy Lotion on this page: http://www.veganstore.co.uk/vitamins.html It isn't cheap though! I hope you find something which sorts your problems out. Cheers Chris W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 , " Ellie Mayson " <ellie2002@b...> wrote: > Hello everyone > > My baby girl (6 months old) has really sensitive skin and she has > now reacted badly to ecover washing powder. It seems like she's > reacting to something new every week. Has anybody had any > experience of this and knows a nice mild, vegan, non-biological > washing powder that I can try next? > Hi, Haven't tried them so I don't know if they work or not but you could try these: http://tinyurl.com/2xeot Napiers also did starflower cream that was vegan last time I looked that is supposed to be good for eczema. The only thing that helps my husband with his is lots of aqueous cream and occasional HC45 when it gets bad. We live in a hard water area and he did find that when we stayed in a softwater area his eczema improved so a water softner may help too... Hope that helps Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:00:06 -0000, " karen880974 " <k.roy wrote: >Haven't tried them so I don't know if they work or not but you could >try these: >http://tinyurl.com/2xeot I haven't tried them either, but I would imagine that the pellets must have been tested on animals quite recently? Also, the Lakeland description doesn't say what they're made from, so they may not be vegan. Unlikely, but possible. Chris W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I generally use Ecover Non Biological liquid, it is very mild, but only recommended for up to a 60 degrees wash.Otherwise I use their non-biological powder, which doesnt contain some of the nasties that other powders use. The Valley VeganJohn Davis <mcxg46 wrote: Hi,I don't know much about these other than a couple of my friends who haveskin problems use them, but they put these plastic-ufo-type objects in theirwashing machine instead of powder.Hmm. Which probably isn't a particularly helpful description, but I couldfind out more when they get back from holiday later this week if you areinterested.John-"Ellie Mayson" Sunday, April 25, 2004 2:59 AM Washing powder problem - info needed> Hello everyone>> My baby girl (6 months old) has really sensitive skin and she has> now reacted badly to ecover washing powder. It seems like she's> reacting to something new every week. Has anybody had any> experience of this and knows a nice mild, vegan, non-biological> washing powder that I can try next?>> And a vegan eczema cream? ... or range of toiletries?>> TIA>> Ellie>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.> ---------------------------> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Guidelines: visit > Un: send a blank message to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 On Apr 27, 2004, at 9:59 AM, peter hurd wrote: > I generally use Ecover Non Biological liquid, it is very mild, but > only recommended for up to a 60 degrees wash.Otherwise I use their > non-biological powder, which doesnt contain some of the nasties that > other powders use. > The Valley Vegan > > Isn't Ecover owned by some nasty company these days, like Group 4 ? They sold out about 10 years ago I think. And I seem to remember that a lot of their products are not even vegan, or maybe that has changed ? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 On Apr 27, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Paul Russell wrote: > On Apr 27, 2004, at 9:59 AM, peter hurd wrote: > >> I generally use Ecover Non Biological liquid, it is very mild, but >> only recommended for up to a 60 degrees wash.Otherwise I use their >> non-biological powder, which doesnt contain some of the nasties that >> other powders use. >> The Valley Vegan >> >> > > Isn't Ecover owned by some nasty company these days, like Group 4 ? > They sold out about 10 years ago I think. And I seem to remember that a > lot of their products are not even vegan, or maybe that has changed ? > > I just did a little Googling on Ecover - they were indeed taken over by Group 4 in 1992. It seems only their biggest selling product - the washing up liquid - contains whey. Everything else is vegan. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 They've got two types of washing up liquid now, one contains whey (why the hell would they do that?!) and the other's vegan. Clearspring also does a vegan, environmentally friendly washing up liquid. Excuse my ignorance, but what's Group 4?! , Paul Russell <prussell@s...> wrote: > On Apr 27, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Paul Russell wrote: > > Isn't Ecover owned by some nasty company these days, like Group 4 ? > > They sold out about 10 years ago I think. And I seem to remember that a > > lot of their products are not even vegan, or maybe that has changed ? > > > > > I just did a little Googling on Ecover - they were indeed taken over by > Group 4 in 1992. > > It seems only their biggest selling product - the washing up liquid - > contains whey. Everything else is vegan. > > Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 On Apr 27, 2004, at 11:17 AM, gothcatz wrote: > Excuse my ignorance, but what's Group 4?! > > They are an obnoxious security company who somehow managed to get the contract to run the UK's privatised prison system among other things (backhanders to the Tories, allegedly). They have fingers in all sorts of pies. Here is some info from CorporateWatch: <http://www.corporatewatch.org.uk/magazine/issue8/cw8g4.html>. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 WOW what major bastards! It seems so strange for a bunch of sadists like that to also sell eco-friendly cleaning stuff. Grrr they're probably all having a good laugh at our expense, all those people buying Ecover cos they think it's doing some good, while they get all the profit! They sound very similar to HLS, committing blatant atrocities and getting off scot-free. , Paul Russell <prussell@s...> wrote: > On Apr 27, 2004, at 11:17 AM, gothcatz wrote: > > > Excuse my ignorance, but what's Group 4?! > > > > > > They are an obnoxious security company who somehow managed to get the > contract to run the UK's privatised prison system among other things > (backhanders to the Tories, allegedly). They have fingers in all sorts > of pies. Here is some info from CorporateWatch: > <http://www.corporatewatch.org.uk/magazine/issue8/cw8g4.html>. > > Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 On Apr 27, 2004, at 1:49 PM, gothcatz wrote: > WOW what major bastards! It seems so strange for a bunch of sadists > like that to also sell eco-friendly cleaning stuff. Grrr they're > probably all having a good laugh at our expense, all those people > buying Ecover cos they think it's doing some good, while they get all > the profit! They sound very similar to HLS, committing blatant > atrocities and getting off scot-free. > > The story I heard about Ecover was that it was originally started by one guy in Holland or Belgium and it was originally a sound ettical business, but Group 4 made him an offer he couldn't refuse in the early 1990's and he sold out. This kind of thing happens all the time, sadly. Odwalla juices etc here in the US are now owned by Coca Cola. Boca, which made the Boca Burger, the de facto vegan burger, got bought by Kraft Foods, who in turn are owned by Philip Morris, the tobacco giants. Most people are blissfully unaware of these buyouts and don't realise that they are unwittingly lining the pockets of evil mutlinationals. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I've e-mailed them to ask for more info - I'll post the reply when I get it. Ellie , Chris W <chrisw@g...> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:00:06 -0000, " karen880974 " <k.roy@b...> > wrote: > > >Haven't tried them so I don't know if they work or not but you could > >try these: > > >http://tinyurl.com/2xeot > > I haven't tried them either, but I would imagine that the pellets must > have been tested on animals quite recently? Also, the Lakeland > description doesn't say what they're made from, so they may not be > vegan. Unlikely, but possible. > > Chris W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 > Isn't Ecover owned by some nasty company these days, like Group 4 ? > They sold out about 10 years ago I think. And I seem to remember that a > lot of their products are not even vegan, or maybe that has changed ? > > Paul Group 4 own Ecover !!! Time for a change anyway then. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 , " Ellie Mayson " <ellie2002@b...> wrote: > > Isn't Ecover owned by some nasty company these days, like Group > 4 ? > > They sold out about 10 years ago I think. And I seem to remember > that a > > lot of their products are not even vegan, or maybe that has > changed ? > > > > Paul > > > Group 4 own Ecover !!! Time for a change anyway then. > > Ellie Last I read in Ethical Consumer they claim to have no links with Group 4, but are owned by a private individual who has financial connections with them: http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/magazine/buyers/81/cleaners.pdf Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 On Apr 28, 2004, at 5:30 AM, karen880974 wrote: > > Last I read in Ethical Consumer they claim to have no links with Group > 4, but are owned by a private individual who has financial connections > with them: > > http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/magazine/buyers/81/cleaners.pdf > > Thanks Karen - That's good to know. Using Google I found references to Group 4 buying 50% of Ecover on 1992 but couldn't find anything about them selling their controlling interest later. I'd be interested to know when this happened and who the mystery owner is now. Regards, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I just noticed the CO-OP washing up liquid has no animal ingredients. Didn't check the washing power. They're not a vegan company, but isn't it good if regular companies introduce vegan products? Leo __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Co-op has excellent labelling on their products, all their vegan foodstuffs are marked as vegan, not just vegetarian. The powder is marked as no animal ingredients (or was the last time I looked) and marked as not tested on animals plus most of their household products that I can think of are BUAV approved. I rang Co-op and asked for their vegan list - it was like a small telephone directory dropping through the letter box - best supermarket listing I know. Ellie , Leonor Gomes <mais1mae> wrote: > I just noticed the CO-OP washing up liquid has no > animal ingredients. Didn't check the washing power. > They're not a vegan company, but isn't it good if > regular companies introduce vegan products? > > Leo > > > > > > __________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:48:28 -0000, " Ellie Mayson " <ellie2002 wrote: >The powder is >marked as no animal ingredients (or was the last time I looked) and >marked as not tested on animals plus most of their household >products that I can think of are BUAV approved. I've mentioned this before, but I think it's worth reiterating that something can be BUAV-approved and yet still contain animal-derived ingredients. They're only interested in whether or not the product has been tested on animals rather than what it contains. Bizarre (and sad), but true. Chris W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 I use Co-op and my local one is only a minute's walk from me. I've been using washing up liquid on my clothes for a few years now ( hand and machine) as the washing powders I've used in the past have made me itch Simon. - " Ellie Mayson " <ellie2002 Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:48 PM Re: Washing powder problem - info needed > Co-op has excellent labelling on their products, all their vegan > foodstuffs are marked as vegan, not just vegetarian. The powder is > marked as no animal ingredients (or was the last time I looked) and > marked as not tested on animals plus most of their household > products that I can think of are BUAV approved. I rang Co-op and > asked for their vegan list - it was like a small telephone directory > dropping through the letter box - best supermarket listing I know. > > Ellie > > > > , Leonor Gomes <mais1mae> wrote: > > I just noticed the CO-OP washing up liquid has no > > animal ingredients. Didn't check the washing power. > > They're not a vegan company, but isn't it good if > > regular companies introduce vegan products? > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 --- Ellie Mayson <ellie2002 wrote: > > I > rang Co-op and > asked for their vegan list - it was like a small > telephone directory > dropping through the letter box - best supermarket > listing I know. Oh, they have vegan stuff! That's cool, I could only see vegetarian there. I've found their list online. Leo __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Co-op seems a pretty ethical supermarket, definitely better than others. They seem to have good policies, like fair trade as well as vegan stuff. Though I have seen a label on some of their eggs saying 'these eggs are from caged hens'. Well, at least they're honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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